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Old June 5th, 2015, 12:38 AM   #9481
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Third day, Huangshan North to Wuyishan East(into Fujian province)
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Huangshan North Station








A simple birthday party for one of the attendents




Arrived at Wuyishan East






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Old June 5th, 2015, 07:13 AM   #9482
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First 300km/h+ HSR in Fujian and Southern Anhui, two of the top ten tourist attractions in China(Huangshan, Wuyishan) and the most scenic county(Wuyuan) in the country are along the line, and it connects with several other HSRs making these places become reachable from most part of the country by fast, safe, comfortable and all weather means of transportation.
When on 1st of July Shangrao-Fuzhou high speed railway opens, what shall be the fastest way to travel Hangzhou-Fuzhou? Detouring inland via Shangrao, but 300 km/h all the way, or on the existing high speed railway via Ningbo but limited to 200 km/h between Ningbo and Fuzhou?
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Old June 5th, 2015, 06:50 PM   #9483
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When on 1st of July Shangrao-Fuzhou high speed railway opens, what shall be the fastest way to travel Hangzhou-Fuzhou? Detouring inland via Shangrao, but 300 km/h all the way, or on the existing high speed railway via Ningbo but limited to 200 km/h between Ningbo and Fuzhou?
3.5 hours via inland route vs 5+ hours along coastline

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Fourth day, Wuyishan East to Shangrao, a quick visit to Nanchan West EMU Depot
By 西安赵建强

Wuyishan East Station






Shangrao Station Hefei-Fuzhou HSR elevated platforms




Looking up from Shanghai-kunming HSR platform


Going to Nanchang West




Red line--Hefei-Fuzhou HSR, pink line--Shanghai-Kunming HSR, black line--Shanghai-Kunming conventional railway


Nanchang West EMU Depot quick vist






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Old June 5th, 2015, 10:12 PM   #9484
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Whats an elevated platform?
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Old June 5th, 2015, 11:53 PM   #9485
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Whats an elevated platform?
On a viaduct, same as those Mumbai Metro station platforms.
The tracks and platforms of Hefei-Fuzhou HSR are at a higher level above those of Shanghai-Kunming HSR, this way both HSRs can keep their track alignments straight, non-stop trains don't need to slow down when passing through the station.

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Old June 7th, 2015, 10:53 AM   #9486
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How are the high speed rail lines and stations arranged around the junction of Hangzhou-Fuzhou-Shenzhen high speed railway with Hefei-Fuzhou high speed railway in Fuzhou?
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Old June 7th, 2015, 12:26 PM   #9487
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I'm not an expert of course, but my educated guess would be that NE China will be a big loser from such a transition. Will be difficult to compete for knowledge workers with areas further South. Who would willingly choose the climate of Harbin over that of Guangzhou?
I see the climate as the strongest argument against Guangdong, Hong Kong and Macau. Too hot, too wet, too stormy. Harbin is too hot too (in the summer), and the Siberian hinterlands don't help much either for climate or business. Geographically Shenyang is better placed. I think the Bohai bay has about the best climate in China, not too hot, not too cold, not too wet too often.

Eventually Dandong will be all about Seoul/South Korea (and Japan). It is hard to say when or how that will happen, but it will. Now it is all about North Korea trade and services.
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Old June 8th, 2015, 11:31 AM   #9488
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Why would South Korea need Dandong? First Laos, Vietnam and Cambodia need to attract SEZs from China and build railways just across the border. NK itself can have manufacturing but only across the border not deep inside. Influx of PRC tourists will boost the economy. Japan is too far away from Dandong. I really wish that the PRC can play the role HK did not the PRC in 1970s/80s. Use Dandong/Kunming/Dali/Hhotot/Xinjiang to attract manufacturing across the border and have SEZs with workers from those regions but Chinese companies building infra/promoting Chinese language/ and creating a bi or even trilingual population. Win win for all sides.

Even historically China was like a gateway, the old silk road between the Stans and Europe and Asia. A road-rail network across China fuelled by HSR could on the one hand lead to a huge Chinese tourist influx into those regions creating prosperity and on the other, nfra opportunities for Chinese companies and employment for locals.

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Old June 8th, 2015, 01:54 PM   #9489
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Awesome plan!
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Old June 8th, 2015, 01:58 PM   #9490
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First Laos, Vietnam and Cambodia need to attract SEZs from China and build railways just across the border.
Cambodia cannot, having no border with China.

Burma, India, Bhutan, Nepal, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan, Kazakhstan, Russia and Mongolia do have border with China.
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Old June 8th, 2015, 08:53 PM   #9491
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Dandong itself is merely a border town, though one with a significant port, but one day North Korea will not be isolated, and isolating, the way it is now. That day Seoul and the rest of South Korea will have a land route to China and the rest of Eurasia. That route will go through Dandong (there are other routes, but they are longer and less convenient).

HSR will go Dandong-Shenyang-Beijing and beyond, and maybe one day Dandong-Dalian-Yantai-(Qingdao)-Shanghai and beyond.
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Old June 9th, 2015, 04:24 AM   #9492
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Guizhou-Guangzhou HSR, such a unique blend of Karst landscape, picturesque villages, and sleek HSR tracks

Old picture just before it's officially opened
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Old June 9th, 2015, 10:51 AM   #9493
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How are toilets maintained on CRH?

Also, what plans to speed up NON-CRH trains??
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How are toilets maintained on CRH?

Also, what plans to speed up NON-CRH trains??
All CRH trains are fitted with vacuum toilets, all CRH EMU Depots and big stations have waste collecting facilities.
All the 25T, 25K and most 25G carriages are fitted with vacuum toilets, the ones without are being phased out.

No plan yet. 160km/h top speed for normal passenger trains is sufficient at the moment considering some CRH trains are only running at 200km/h to 210km/h. Better timetable scheduling is more befeficial to the passengers since the base price of the ticket is directly related to the top speed.
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Old June 11th, 2015, 12:37 PM   #9495
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Old June 11th, 2015, 02:44 PM   #9496
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Why have sleeper carriages for HSR, for journeys that will take that long people will just choose to fly/
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Old June 11th, 2015, 02:48 PM   #9497
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Is there a need for such a dense HSR network, because it looks like some lines are underused right now, if you look at Germany its HSR is really not that extensive, and a lot of people will still prefer driving or flying to riding a train.
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Old June 11th, 2015, 03:20 PM   #9498
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Why have sleeper carriages for HSR, for journeys that will take that long people will just choose to fly/
China is the only country with HSR long enough to test this.
People do ride HSR sleepers, not only fly.
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Old June 11th, 2015, 05:14 PM   #9499
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Why have sleeper carriages for HSR, for journeys that will take that long people will just choose to fly/
HSR with sleeper carriages are quite economical, as they run at night and you can save the hotel fees for one night. From GUangzhou to Beijing, an HSR sleeper is 700 CNY which is cheaper than most flight.
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Old June 11th, 2015, 06:12 PM   #9500
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Is there a need for such a dense HSR network, because it looks like some lines are underused right now, if you look at Germany its HSR is really not that extensive, and a lot of people will still prefer driving or flying to riding a train.
I think one needs to compare whole Europe to China. And China has many many more people. So, no, I don't agree with you on this one. If anything, some lines will require parallel ones sooner than later.
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