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Old June 11th, 2015, 08:00 PM   #9501
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Is there a need for such a dense HSR network, because it looks like some lines are underused right now, if you look at Germany its HSR is really not that extensive, and a lot of people will still prefer driving or flying to riding a train.
So the German HSR system should be the model for the rest of the world to follow?

If Germany doesn't have an extensive and dense system due to the lack of a need then China should follow suit.

In other words China shouldnt build anything Germany doesn't already have in terms of infrastruture so on.

What is true for a country of 80 million is equally true anywhere else?

Exactly where do economies of scale , population . population density come into play ?

If China's HSR system is underused then you have set a high benchmark because no other country comes close in terms of passenger volume.
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Old June 11th, 2015, 08:22 PM   #9502
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When will the China Laos railway start building?
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Old June 11th, 2015, 08:23 PM   #9503
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Is there a need for such a dense HSR network, because it looks like some lines are underused right now, if you look at Germany its HSR is really not that extensive, and a lot of people will still prefer driving or flying to riding a train.
Germany is as small as Hunan, Guangdong or any province of China. Which province has the same HSR network as Germany?
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Old June 12th, 2015, 02:18 AM   #9504
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How are toilets maintained on CRH?
They're stored in a septic tank emptied at the end of the journey. The traditional method is too filthy.

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Also, what plans to speed up NON-CRH trains??
Most major lines have already been upgraded to at least 160 km/h (some with 200 km/h). But, the master plan is to shift most passenger trains to high speed lines, creating more room for profitable freight trains.
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Old June 12th, 2015, 03:21 PM   #9505
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No, I meant how CLEAN are the toilets generally?
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Old June 13th, 2015, 08:25 AM   #9506
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No, I meant how CLEAN are the toilets generally?
LOL... it's hit or miss, really.
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Old June 13th, 2015, 10:49 AM   #9507
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If anything, some lines will require parallel ones sooner than later.
Do you know which ones?
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Old June 13th, 2015, 06:24 PM   #9508
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New to board....I need help, looking for references on CRH380D

I'm new to this board, Hi everyone

I need some help in finding drawings, plans or anything that will help me to build a highly detailed model of the exterior of the CRH380D.. I've been scouring the internet for what ever I can find, but so far, not much luck. Perhaps I'm not searching the right area, so any help in the department would be greatly appreciated... Thank you

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Old June 13th, 2015, 09:53 PM   #9509
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I'm new to this board, Hi everyone

I need some help in finding drawings, plans or anything that will help me to build a highly detailed model of the exterior of the CRH380D.. I've been scouring the internet for what ever I can find, but so far, not much luck. Perhaps I'm not searching the right area, so any help in the department would be greatly appreciated... Thank you

Will
A couple of people in China are trying to come up with an illustrated handbook of CRH trainsets in the near future. CRH380D will be included in the handbook. I think that's the best bet to get anything as detailed as those 3-way aircraft drawings.

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Old June 13th, 2015, 10:33 PM   #9510
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Thank you for the reply...
that may be just what I need...I have seen the Harmony 1:160 scale collection piece on several websites, but everybody is out of them, so unless someone has any better idea, I'm gonna have to do a cad drawing and have my 3d modeller make it
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Old June 14th, 2015, 09:47 AM   #9511
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Do you know which ones?
Another Beijing to Tianjin HSR is already being planned. Another line between Shanghai and Nanjing is near construction. In both cases the lines will relieve the existing HSR while providing service to areas without any railways.

Also, a "proper" HSR is planned between Jinan and Qingdao, and between Nanjing and Sichuan. The detailed route of the latter is still under consideration.
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Old June 14th, 2015, 10:35 AM   #9512
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Another Beijing to Tianjin HSR is already being planned. Another line between Shanghai and Nanjing is near construction. In both cases the lines will relieve the existing HSR while providing service to areas without any railways.

Also, a "proper" HSR is planned between Jinan and Qingdao, and between Nanjing and Sichuan. The detailed route of the latter is still under consideration.
So there will be pretty much 4 high speed lines between Shanghai and Nanjing! Wow. I call the conventional line high-speed since CRH trains used to run on it.
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Old June 14th, 2015, 12:50 PM   #9513
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People do ride HSR sleepers, not only fly.
Domestic flights are usually severely delayed in China due to congested airports and airways.
Take a route like PEK-CAN.
If weather rolls into PEK (in the summer-time) or CAN, you are SOL.
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Old June 14th, 2015, 02:58 PM   #9514
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Another Beijing to Tianjin HSR is already being planned. Another line between Shanghai and Nanjing is near construction. In both cases the lines will relieve the existing HSR while providing service to areas without any railways.

Also, a "proper" HSR is planned between Jinan and Qingdao, and between Nanjing and Sichuan. The detailed route of the latter is still under consideration.


What is the speed limit of the prospective Beijing-Tianjin line????
300 or 350 km/h?? or lower?
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Old June 14th, 2015, 04:49 PM   #9515
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Another line between SHanghai and Nanjing? So 3 HSR lines plus one upgraded semi-HSR line? Wow!
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Old June 14th, 2015, 08:00 PM   #9516
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Here is my video report from my recent journey on the Nanning - Guangzhou High-Speed Railway with train D3602 in an (empty) First Class cabin. The journey took 4 hours and 4 minutes on 563 km long track between Guangzhou South and Nanning East Railway Station. The train never exceeded a speed of 200 km/h.
During the first part of the journey rain was settling in. However, the further were travelling towards the West (towards Nanning, Guangxi Province) the more the weather cleared up and we had the chance the marvelous tropical karst landscape and rice fields.



It took me some time to compile this video. I would like to give people outside of China a feeling of Chinese high-speed railway system, hence, I was filming from different angles (outside to the right, outside to the left, outside cockpit view, inside).
Feedback is much appreciated.





















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Old June 14th, 2015, 08:18 PM   #9517
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Thanks alot. I am planning to go from Guangzhou to Nanning (part of my Hong Kong to Saigon railway journey) later this year. This is very useful.
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Old June 14th, 2015, 11:00 PM   #9518
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how many kms of HSR does china have now, and how many are being planned? can someone show me a map of the existing lines pls
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Old June 15th, 2015, 05:27 AM   #9519
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Thanks alot. I am planning to go from Guangzhou to Nanning (part of my Hong Kong to Saigon railway journey) later this year. This is very useful.


Bullet train vacation again??? What a super rich Lithuanian !
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Old June 15th, 2015, 05:31 AM   #9520
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The journey took 4 hours and 4 minutes on 563 km long track between Guangzhou South and Nanning East Railway Station. The train never exceeded a speed of 200 km/h.


Can they still claim it is 'bullet' train with speed lower than 200km/h?????
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