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Old June 15th, 2015, 05:45 AM   #9521
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Bullet train vacation again??? What a super rich Lithuanian !
Actually not rich at all. Just loving to get around here and there abit. Life's too short to stay in one place all the time.

But yes another train vacation. I'll try to document it as much as I can with a few bits of new equipment that I got specifically for this purpose.

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Can they still claim it is 'bullet' train with speed lower than 200km/h?????
It's a D service which means it's limited to 200km/h (even if technically could go faster). Although in some instances D trains do speed up to 250km/h on some specific stretches of railway.

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Old June 15th, 2015, 07:39 AM   #9522
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how many kms of HSR does china have now, and how many are being planned? can someone show me a map of the existing lines pls
After 2015,more than 20000km

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Old June 15th, 2015, 04:24 PM   #9523
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By 1st of July this year, there will be 9200+km HSR with 300km/h operational speed, over 1100 300km/h+ 8-car high speed trains put into services.





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Old June 15th, 2015, 06:12 PM   #9524
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Not 100% certain, the official timetable hasn't been revealed yet, the original plan was to open this section at the end of this month, since the trial run proved to be very successful, the openning was moved to 16th, not sure if all the stations on this section are ready or not by the time.
16th is tomorrow.
Has the timetable been revealed?
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Old June 15th, 2015, 09:39 PM   #9525
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16th is tomorrow.
Has the timetable been revealed?
Not yet. Rumour is that only a handful temporary services will run between Guiyang North to Changsha South from 17th till 30th. Official opening day will be 1st of July.
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Old June 16th, 2015, 03:56 AM   #9526
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16th is tomorrow.
Has the timetable been revealed?
Latest rumour, tickets selling for the temorary services between Guiyang North and Changsha South on 17th, the services running from 18th to 30th.

Shanghai-Kunming HSR Guizhou section, from "People's Daily"




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Old June 16th, 2015, 04:38 AM   #9527
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Guizhou-Guangzhou HSR, such a unique blend of Karst landscape, picturesque villages, and sleek HSR tracks

Old picture just before it's officially opened
OMG in love. Is there a HD version of this picture somewhere? Or a poster I can buy??!
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Old June 16th, 2015, 10:38 AM   #9528
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We have to, HAVE TO, make a China High Speed Railway calendar!!
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Old June 16th, 2015, 12:01 PM   #9529
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Does anyone know whether Xinghuo station will be connected to other major HSR stations in Beijing?

As Beijing-Shenyang is slated to terminate at Xinghuo, Wouldn't integrated services with other lines be impossible? I would like to have a Guangzhou-Harbin ride in the future!

I wonder if they could build an underground line such as the one connecting Beijing station and BJ west. Thus dismissing the noise pollution concerns of residents.

Please please please make it happen. It would be pretty dumb to take the subway between HSR rides...
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Old June 16th, 2015, 02:47 PM   #9530
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Hi Chinese knowing guys, this is a video https://www.facebook.com/shanghaiist...2781709771030/. It shows Deng Xiaoping travelling by HSR for the first time and looking quite awed and impressed. What exactly is he saying? And what comments is he making? Please help. There are only Chinese subtitles. But its impossible for me.
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Old June 16th, 2015, 06:01 PM   #9531
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He would be thoroughly impressed with his home country if he were alive today. China has the most impressive high speed rail network in the world.
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Old June 16th, 2015, 06:58 PM   #9532
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He would be thoroughly impressed with his home country if he were alive today. China has the most impressive high speed rail network in the world.
But I feel its not as dense yet as Japan. Considering that, at least in the south and east-PRD/YRD it should be at least as dense as Japan and speeds accelerated.

And yeah, I'm waiting for some translation.
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Old June 16th, 2015, 07:52 PM   #9533
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Does anyone know whether Xinghuo station will be connected to other major HSR stations in Beijing?

As Beijing-Shenyang is slated to terminate at Xinghuo, Wouldn't integrated services with other lines be impossible? I would like to have a Guangzhou-Harbin ride in the future!

I wonder if they could build an underground line such as the one connecting Beijing station and BJ west. Thus dismissing the noise pollution concerns of residents.

Please please please make it happen. It would be pretty dumb to take the subway between HSR rides...
In the long run it has to be, but there isnt any short term plan for it due to NIMBYs.

Its ironic how some NIMBYs in Beijing organized multiple demonstrations to protest again Jing-Shen HSR and successfully handicapped it , while IMBYs in other provinces demanded HSR in bloody clashes.
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Old June 16th, 2015, 08:03 PM   #9534
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Hi Chinese knowing guys, this is a video https://www.facebook.com/shanghaiist...2781709771030/. It shows Deng Xiaoping travelling by HSR for the first time and looking quite awed and impressed. What exactly is he saying? And what comments is he making? Please help. There are only Chinese subtitles. But its impossible for me.
he was asked how he liked shinkansen after riding it, and he replied, "i felt its fast, sort of urging people to run. that is why it is the most appropriate time for us to ride such a train." i guess he was referring to speeding up reform/growth.
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Old June 16th, 2015, 08:22 PM   #9535
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Old June 17th, 2015, 07:15 AM   #9536
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Does anyone have some detailed information about the safety systems of Chinese high speed trains, esp. if the train is moving too fast?

While riding the high speed train G68 between Guangzhou and Shanghai, a very loud alarm sound was activated and from that we began to slow down even more.

Have consulted an experienced CRH driver, the beeping sound in the carriage was definately from smoke alarm. In early years, every time the smoke alarm was triggered, the ATP braked the train to a full stop, every time the culprit was found out to be someone smoking in the toilet, so the procedure has been revised to slow down from 300km/h to 160km/h first, when the source was found to be smoker, ATP cancelled the alarm and returned the train to normal speed.

So what will ATP do if the train is speeding?
When the train is speeding, ATP will warn the driver by highlighting some region in orange/red colour on the DMI(Driver Machine Interface) screen as well as beeping sound and a female voice warning - "减速,减速"(reduce the speed), when the train is travelling in CSM(ceiling speed monitoring) region, if the speed is 5km/h over the ceil, ATP will activate maximum service brake to bring the train back to the allowed speed, if 10km/h over the ceil, ATP will activate maximum emergency brake to bring the train to a halt, this could happen only when ATP in "Driver in control supervised by ATP" mode.
When the train is travelling in TSM(target speed monitoring) region, when ATP detects the speed is over the SBI(serive brake intervention) curve, ATP will activate maximum service brake to bring the speed back to the curve. When ATP detects the speed is over the EBI(emergency brake intervention) curve, ATP will activate maximum emergency brake to bring the train to stop. Again the latter only happens when ATP in "Driver in control supervised by ATP" mode. CRH trains have all been set up as "ATP in full control" mode as default.

Here is an example what it sounds like in the cab when speeding, the video was shot in the cab when doing test run on Hefei-Fuzhou HSR, obviously ATP main function has been disabled except the warning.
http://video.weibo.com/show?fid=1034...urce=weibolife

Here's a picture of ATP screen showing the train is travelling in CSM region. What we know from MRSP(Most Restrictive Speed Profile, the diagram on top right of the screen) is the speed ceiling of next 8km of track is 300km/h.


BTW, the speed displayed in the carriages is not accurate. It's calculated with the data from the axle speed sensor without recalibration, the wheel diameter is decreasing gradually by wear and tear, so the shown speed is always slightly faster that the real speed. You can test this with GPS app on the phone.

I hope I got the description right, still trying to understand the principles of CTCS/ETCS and how they are applied under different circumstances.
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Old June 17th, 2015, 10:35 AM   #9537
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Has anybody looked into the hyperloop? How will customers respond to 3 hours inside a sealed tube w/o windows.
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Old June 17th, 2015, 10:36 AM   #9538
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Is the HSR network making money or losing money overall, beside the Beijing to Shanghai corridor, is it at least taking in enough revenue to cover operating costs plus new investments?
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Old June 17th, 2015, 02:40 PM   #9539
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Latest rumour, tickets selling for the temorary services between Guiyang North and Changsha South on 17th, the services running from 18th to 30th.
Have any tickets been sold?
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Old June 17th, 2015, 07:22 PM   #9540
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Have any tickets been sold?





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