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Old July 15th, 2015, 03:07 PM   #9701
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Shanghai Maglev by memos to the future, on Flickr
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Old July 16th, 2015, 11:52 AM   #9702
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^ That is not a CRH train.
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Old July 16th, 2015, 07:04 PM   #9703
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^ That is not a CRH train.
Nice catch. Technically it's a high speed magnetically levitated monorail.
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Old July 16th, 2015, 08:15 PM   #9704
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^ That is not a CRH train.
It might not be CRH-branded, but it's most definitely High Speed Rail. Not steel wheel, not dual rail. But High Speed Rail nonetheless.

The topic of this thread is not CRH. It is High Speed Rail in China. The Shanghai Maglev falls in that category, whether you like it or not
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Old July 16th, 2015, 08:40 PM   #9705
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That's the maglev which is apparently only going to the airport and nowhere else.
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Old July 17th, 2015, 04:38 PM   #9706
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Taken from CCTV Facebook page in Russian

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Witness of a miracle!
A foreigner has taken a HSR train from Beijing to Shanghai and decided to carry out an experiment. He took a coin and put it on the sill in the upward position. At a speed of 300 km/h the coin was standing for 8 minutes. Neither did i fall when tre train started slowinf down while approaching Changzhou North station. It only fell when the train swapped to another track.
Translation is mine.

I don't know how to put the movie here, so I just give you a link:

https://www.facebook.com/cctvrussian...60982150638786

I really think Chinese HSR is now the best in the world.
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Old July 17th, 2015, 08:49 PM   #9707
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Taken from CCTV Facebook page in Russian



Translation is mine.

I don't know how to put the movie here, so I just give you a link:

https://www.facebook.com/cctvrussian...60982150638786

I really think Chinese HSR is now the best in the world.
Ah,the original one is here on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUtS8M90Fto
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Old July 17th, 2015, 09:08 PM   #9708
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It might not be CRH-branded, but it's most definitely High Speed Rail. Not steel wheel, not dual rail. But High Speed Rail nonetheless.

The topic of this thread is not CRH. It is High Speed Rail in China. The Shanghai Maglev falls in that category, whether you like it or not
Intra-city maglev goes in this thread.
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Old July 17th, 2015, 11:43 PM   #9709
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That's not for High Speed maglev, just for rapid transit maglev.

The Shanghai maglev is just as at home here as it is there.
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Old July 18th, 2015, 12:24 AM   #9710
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The thread is titled 'High speed Rail in China'. Is Shanghai Maglev 'high-speed rail'? The answer is 'yes'. Therefore it does belong in this thread.
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Old July 18th, 2015, 10:47 AM   #9711
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That's not for High Speed maglev, just for rapid transit maglev.

The Shanghai maglev is just as at home here as it is there.
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The thread is titled 'High speed Rail in China'. Is Shanghai Maglev 'high-speed rail'? The answer is 'yes'. Therefore it does belong in this thread.


Urban maglev projects are also operating at much higher speeds than typical urban rail, but belong to the Subways and Urban Transport section for obvious reasons.

If the Shanghai maglev were to extend to Hangzhou, connecting 2 different cities, rather than 2 stops within the same district, then it belongs in here.

If both of you had read the front page to the Infrastructure and Mobility section, you will immediately realize that the Railways section has this sub-header : (Inter)national commuter and freight trains. This means a much broader network of high-speed rail that has much wider implications than urban / intra-city transport.

You will also see the Subways and Urban Transport section includes local transport systems.

Think the distinction is very obvious and clear.
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Old July 18th, 2015, 01:42 PM   #9712
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Urban maglev projects are also operating at much higher speeds than typical urban rail, but belong to the Subways and Urban Transport section for obvious reasons.
Oh? The ones I've seen go about 80-120 km/h. Not at all High Speed.


The name of the thread is "CHINA | High Speed Rail". Shanghai Maglev fits the thread title.

It was meant to be a longer distance line to Hangzhou. It is an unfinished longer distance line. It is NOT rapid transit at ALL.

Think the distinction is very obvious and clear.
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Old July 18th, 2015, 05:45 PM   #9713
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Oh? The ones I've seen go about 80-120 km/h. Not at all High Speed.


The name of the thread is "CHINA | High Speed Rail". Shanghai Maglev fits the thread title.

It was meant to be a longer distance line to Hangzhou. It is an unfinished longer distance line. It is NOT rapid transit at ALL.

Think the distinction is very obvious and clear.
This is a thread about high-speed rail in China under the Railways section with sub-header that it is intended for (Inter)national commuter and freight trains.

Shanghai maglev was not designed to be an intercity, national, international, or even commuter line to fit the sub-header description. It was a demonstration line built by Transrapid. Their intention was to sell maglev technology for the Beijing-Shanghai line but not by extending the Pudong airport link.

This intra-city line belongs to the Subways and Urban Transport section. You yourself had raised some posts on this maglev in the Subways and Urban Transport section already. Not sure why you are being inconsistent with your posts now when you recently had believed maglev discussions belonged there and not here. Let's not create duplication and redundant posts. One project cannot belong to 2 separate and distinct sections.
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Old July 18th, 2015, 08:31 PM   #9714
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Old July 19th, 2015, 12:56 AM   #9715
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Their intention was to sell maglev technology for the Beijing-Shanghai line but not by extending the Pudong airport link.
What TransRapid's reason was for building the line doesn't really matter much in this 'discussion'.

What does matter is that the line *was* supposed to be extended to Hongqiao (the platforms are/were already there to receive the new Maglev lines) and Hangzhou. It just turned out to be too expensive, and the regular HSR turned out to be good enough for Shanghai-Hangzhou.

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This intra-city line belongs to the Subways and Urban Transport section. You yourself had raised some posts on this maglev in the Subways and Urban Transport section already. Not sure why you are being inconsistent with your posts now when you recently had believed maglev discussions belonged there and not here. Let's not create duplication and redundant posts. One project cannot belong to 2 separate and distinct sections.
I was pretty consistent, because if you see my post a little bit to the top:
"The Shanghai maglev is just as at home here as it is there."


I know this blows your world view enough to keep you occupied for many posts now already, but the Shanghai Maglev is at home in both topics.

Oasis-Bangkok posted a beautiful picture of a High Speed Train, and you are being nit-picky about it. There is such a thing as taking it too far. Now if it was a picture of a tram, I would have corrected him myself, but in this specific case I suggest you go do something other than making a mountain out of a molehill.

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Old July 19th, 2015, 06:21 AM   #9716
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What TransRapid's reason was for building the line doesn't really matter much in this 'discussion'.

What does matter is that the line *was* supposed to be extended to Hongqiao (the platforms are/were already there to receive the new Maglev lines) and Hangzhou. It just turned out to be too expensive, and the regular HSR turned out to be good enough for Shanghai-Hangzhou.
By now, we all know now it is not going to be extended, and hence is a local transit line, which belongs to the Subways and Urban Transport section for local transport systems.

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I was pretty consistent, because if you see my post a little bit to the top:
"The Shanghai maglev is just as at home here as it is there."
We should avoid duplicating content across different subsections of the Infrastructure and Mobility Forums. It does not belong here because it is not an (Inter)national commuter and freight train as described as a sub-header to this section. You have not addressed why a local transit line should be considered a national train system for discussion in this thread.

If people have lovely pictures of the maglev system, put it in the right place and we can discuss it there.
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Old July 21st, 2015, 02:36 AM   #9717
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Less than three weeks before the inauguaration day of Harbin-Qiqihar PDL, doubled-up CRH5As spotted passing through wetland nature reserve just outside Daqing city - the oil capital of China

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Old July 21st, 2015, 05:36 AM   #9718
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That is a fantastic picture. Seriously, maybe the best. Please, share hi-res version of it if you find it.

Great picture.
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Old July 22nd, 2015, 01:59 AM   #9719
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What on earth is that factory?
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Old July 22nd, 2015, 02:18 AM   #9720
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