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Old July 25th, 2015, 06:30 PM   #9741
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Great pictures. Tight curves for HSR but I guess trains won't be running full speed within the city.

As for the Nanjing Anqing High Speed Railway, is that going to continue somewhere past Anqing?
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Old July 25th, 2015, 08:08 PM   #9742
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The view of these two lines winding though Wuhu city towards Yijiang station
Incredible transformation of a lower-tier city in China. I can just imagine how shitty it looked just 5 or 10 years ago. Now there is a beautiful brand new highway, high-speed rail tracks, and skyscrapers everywhere. The same story is repeated in thousands of cities all over the country. CRH has played a pivotal role in the birth of this new monster superpower.
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Old July 26th, 2015, 04:09 PM   #9743
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Great pictures. Tight curves for HSR but I guess trains won't be running full speed within the city.

As for the Nanjing Anqing High Speed Railway, is that going to continue somewhere past Anqing?
Will extend to Jiujiang eventually, either via planned Hefei-Anqing-Jiujiang HSR or planned Chizhou-Jiujiang PDL

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Old July 26th, 2015, 04:34 PM   #9744
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Inter Milan took CRH train from Shenzhen to Guangzhou
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Old July 26th, 2015, 07:52 PM   #9745
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6F started trial revenue operation between Nanning and Beihai as D9671/2, D9673/6, and D9675/4 on July 11th.
Does CRH6F have the same schedule as the other CRH models had had?
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Old July 27th, 2015, 03:26 AM   #9746
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Does CRH6F have the same schedule as the other CRH models had had?
Yes as you can see there are only three pairs per day, it's probably done because this is a new service, more services could be introduced over time.
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Old July 27th, 2015, 06:59 AM   #9747
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What are supposed to be the differences and advantages of CRH6F over the previous CRH models?
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Old July 27th, 2015, 08:25 AM   #9748
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I like those high speed rail line curves in urban canyon.
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Old July 27th, 2015, 03:35 PM   #9749
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Faster acceleration(1.8 km/h/s for CRH3, 2.34 for CRH6A, and 2.88 for CRH6F) and wider doors, which makes the model suitable for suburban survices.
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Old July 27th, 2015, 06:40 PM   #9750
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I think what CRH really NEED is commuter HSR, like 60-70 km or 100 km in say 20 minutes, thus a kind of suburban rail HSR with people spending only an hour, 20 minutes to the train station, 20 minutes at the train and then 10 minutes from the station to the workplace. A better idea indeed would be to relocate industries and homes and residences along and at the HSR stations so there would practically be little need to commute for hours together. Imagine if everyone lived 0.5-1.5 km from a station. Then the HSR stations themselves could be office blocks.
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Old July 27th, 2015, 07:24 PM   #9751
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I think what CRH really NEED is commuter HSR, like 60-70 km or 100 km in say 20 minutes, thus a kind of suburban rail HSR with people spending only an hour, 20 minutes to the train station, 20 minutes at the train and then 10 minutes from the station to the workplace. A better idea indeed would be to relocate industries and homes and residences along and at the HSR stations so there would practically be little need to commute for hours together. Imagine if everyone lived 0.5-1.5 km from a station. Then the HSR stations themselves could be office blocks.
That is what the CRH 6 is.
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Old July 27th, 2015, 07:33 PM   #9752
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According to Wikipedia, a new railway station has been built in Urumqi for the opening of the high speed railway to Turpan, Hami and further. The old Urumqi station has been renamed to Urumqi South.

However, when I look at schedules of the high speed trains to Hami it seems that all high speed trains depart from Urumqi South, the old station. So why aren't the high speed trains using the new station? Or are these timetables incorrect?
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Old July 27th, 2015, 09:06 PM   #9753
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I think the new Urumqi Railway Station is not finished yet.

EDIT: I can't read Chinese, but this is the new Urumqi railway station construction by October 2014:

http://qoofan.com/a/162620.html
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Old July 28th, 2015, 09:22 AM   #9754
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I think what CRH really NEED is commuter HSR, like 60-70 km or 100 km in say 20 minutes,
That much is impractical. Compare Shanghai Maglev - 7 and a half minutes for 30 km distance. If it were extended another 30 km, it would be say 16 minutes (1 minute station stop, 7 and a half minutes for the other half). Just 60 km, not 100.
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thus a kind of suburban rail HSR with people spending only an hour, 20 minutes to the train station, 20 minutes at the train and then 10 minutes from the station to the workplace. A better idea indeed would be to relocate industries and homes and residences along and at the HSR stations so there would practically be little need to commute for hours together. Imagine if everyone lived 0.5-1.5 km from a station. Then the HSR stations themselves could be office blocks.
If everyone lived within 1,5 km from a station, the distance between stations would have to be less than 3 km.
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Old July 28th, 2015, 02:07 PM   #9755
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I think what CRH really NEED is commuter HSR, like 60-70 km or 100 km in say 20 minutes, thus a kind of suburban rail HSR with people spending only an hour, 20 minutes to the train station, 20 minutes at the train and then 10 minutes from the station to the workplace. A better idea indeed would be to relocate industries and homes and residences along and at the HSR stations so there would practically be little need to commute for hours together. Imagine if everyone lived 0.5-1.5 km from a station. Then the HSR stations themselves could be office blocks.
Beijing-Tianjin HSR was basically that. Except in Beijing the offices weren't close to the station, so people would spend 45min+ on the subway alone in Beijing to get to the offices. By opting to build the HSR stations so far from the CBDs, they made commuter HSR basically unfeasible. Maybe in the future efforts will be made to setup secondary CBDs near the stations. Then we'll see.
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Old July 28th, 2015, 04:21 PM   #9756
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Beijing-Tianjin HSR was basically that. Except in Beijing the offices weren't close to the station, so people would spend 45min+ on the subway alone in Beijing to get to the offices. By opting to build the HSR stations so far from the CBDs, they made commuter HSR basically unfeasible. Maybe in the future efforts will be made to setup secondary CBDs near the stations. Then we'll see.
The cost of the HSR makes it not feasible to be a commuting option. A month riding this twice a day is enough to rent an apartment in either city.
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Old July 28th, 2015, 04:36 PM   #9757
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The cost of the HSR makes it not feasible to be a commuting option. A month riding this twice a day is enough to rent an apartment in either city.
So the solution is to relocate offices around HSR stations and encourage CBDs around HSR stations? Here in India there is a monthly pass system for commuter rail. Why not a Beijing-Tianjin HSR monthly pass? Or maybe reduce fares somewhat and reduce property taxes around HSR and near lines so that you avoid the self-defeating thing of travelling 45 minutes by metro to your office.
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Old July 28th, 2015, 05:39 PM   #9758
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Beijing-Tianjin (ca 130 km apart) is too far for commuter service with or without HSR. I see no need to encourage widespread commuting from one place to another by subsidising such a service.
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Old July 28th, 2015, 05:44 PM   #9759
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Beijing-Tianjin (ca 130 km apart) is too far for commuter service with or without HSR. I see no need to encourage widespread commuting from one place to another by subsidising such a service.
Well, look at this way. Would it not reduce property prices in Beijing if such a service was done?
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Old July 28th, 2015, 05:57 PM   #9760
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Beijing-Tianjin (ca 130 km apart) is too far for commuter service with or without HSR.
I have taken that HSR, and I could easily do that as a commute every day.
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