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Old August 20th, 2015, 04:25 PM   #9881
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Are those non-CRH trains on tracks built for CRH?
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Old August 20th, 2015, 07:05 PM   #9882
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Yes, I noticed that the night train I will take next month from Urumqi to Chongqing will use the high speed line on part of the route (where it is not parallel to a regular railway line). I understand the Chongqing - Wuhan high speed line is also shared with regular trains, probably also because there is no regular railway line on this connection.
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Old August 21st, 2015, 11:05 PM   #9883
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Old August 22nd, 2015, 01:43 AM   #9884
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Classical night trains are also using the new Nanning - Guilin high speed line, because the old line has only a single-track and is not electrified.
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Old August 22nd, 2015, 08:29 AM   #9885
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There are 17 daily D trains Harbin-Qiqihar. Of these, the fastest are 4 express trains, D6901 to D6907, 1 stop, trip time 1:25. The other 13 take 1:32 to 1:56, with 2 to 6 intermediate stops. Departures from Harbin from 6:13 to 18:45, arrival in Qiqihar South 8:03 to 20:28.
Ticket price second class 98 yuan, first class 117 yuan.
For comparison, slow trains take 3:01 to 5:23. Hard seat 38 yuan 5 jiao to 46 yuan 5 jiao, hard sleeper 92 yuan 5 jiao to 100 yuan 5 jiao, soft sleeper 136 yuan 5 jiao to 146 yuan 5 jiao.

2 of these D trains are direct trains Beijing-Qiqihar: D29 and D25. Trip time 10:10 and 10:26, departures 6:55 and 10:02, arrivals 17:05 and 20:28. Ticket price second class 406 yuan 5 jiao, first class 540 yuan 5 jiao.

No direct high speed service to Qiqihar from anywhere else past Harbin.
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Old August 23rd, 2015, 08:24 AM   #9886
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CRH 6A in action, D9641 - Liuzhou (柳州) → Nanning East (南宁东)(7/29/2015)


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Old August 24th, 2015, 07:26 PM   #9887
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China investment in railway construction up 10.3pct y-o-y in Jan-July

BEIJING, Aug. 19 (Xinhua) -- China's investment in construction of railways amounted to 283.6 billion yuan in the first seven months of 2015, up 10.3 percent from 257.2 billion yuan in the same period of last year, according to data provided by the China Railway Corporation.

China's fixed asset investment in the whole railway industry totaled 319.4 billion yuan in the first seven months, up 8.1 percent year on year.
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Old August 25th, 2015, 04:18 AM   #9888
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Is there a direct G or D train service from Guangzhou to Chongqing? I'm trying to sort my plan for my trip to China next month and one of the options I'm thinking about is Guangzhou-Chongqing by train.
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Old August 25th, 2015, 04:42 AM   #9889
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Is there a direct G or D train service from Guangzhou to Chongqing? I'm trying to sort my plan for my trip to China next month and one of the options I'm thinking about is Guangzhou-Chongqing by train.
They have but it is a 11 hour + ride via Wuhan. Probably not the best way to connect between the 2 when the flight is less than 2 hours.
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Old August 25th, 2015, 05:13 AM   #9890
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They have but it is a 11 hour + ride via Wuhan. Probably not the best way to connect between the 2 when the flight is less than 2 hours.
Not if the purpose of your trip is to ride high-speed trains in China.
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Old August 25th, 2015, 05:34 AM   #9891
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Is there a direct G or D train service from Guangzhou to Chongqing? I'm trying to sort my plan for my trip to China next month and one of the options I'm thinking about is Guangzhou-Chongqing by train.
you can ride train from shenyang to dandong and the go to North Korea,haha,just a joke
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Old August 25th, 2015, 10:44 AM   #9892
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It'll be totally worth it if they have HSR sleeper trains from Guangzhou/Shanghai/Beijing to Chongqing.
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Old August 25th, 2015, 10:59 AM   #9893
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It'll be totally worth it if they have HSR sleeper trains from Guangzhou/Shanghai/Beijing to Chongqing.
They have not.
The 3 G trains Guangzhou-Chongqing are daytime, departing 6:36, 6:53 and 8:17, arriving 17:42, 18:17 and 19:35. Ticket second class 720 yuan, first class 1048 yuan, business class 2232 yuan.
From Shanghai, 4 D trains take 12:34 to 12:54, depart 6:09 to 8:39, arrive 19:03 to 21:17. Second class 509 yuan 5 jiao, first class 610 yuan, no business class.
From Beijing, 2 daily G trains take 12:16 and 12:18, depart 8:30 and 9:40, arrive 20:46 and 21:58. Second class 767 yuan 5 jiao, first class 1126 yuan, business class 2383 yuan.
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Old August 26th, 2015, 11:20 AM   #9894
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Probably not the best way to connect between the 2 when the flight is less than 2 hours.
Well, 98% of all high speed trains are punctual.
Domestic flights in China (esp. from the subtropical ridge) are usually severely delayed.
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Old August 26th, 2015, 12:04 PM   #9895
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second class seat is enough comfortable for me. G train runs 305KM/HOUR,very smoothly,quiet. D train runs 240KM/HOUR.but fast food price on the train is a bit expensive .
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Old August 26th, 2015, 02:23 PM   #9896
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Here in Poland we feel envy because we have such a great and modern high-speed rail like you. keep it up China!
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Old August 27th, 2015, 01:13 AM   #9897
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Well, 98% of all high speed trains are punctual.
Domestic flights in China (esp. from the subtropical ridge) are usually severely delayed.
Not to mention the hassle at the airports with security checks and stuff. I start shaking even from thinking about the airport procedures (unless it's Singapore Changi which is the sole exception from all airports that I have ever been to). China's HSR travel even with 'tough' security procedures (ticket stamping at the station entrance, X-ray, departure/arrival area separation and other arguably unnecessary measures) is easy peasy and pretty much hassle-free (mind you I'm a foreigner who can barely speak/read/write a word in Chinese).
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Not to mention the hassle at the airports with security checks and stuff. I start shaking even from thinking about the airport procedures (unless it's Singapore Changi which is the sole exception from all airports that I have ever been to). China's HSR travel even with 'tough' security procedures (ticket stamping at the station entrance, X-ray, departure/arrival area separation and other arguably unnecessary measures) is easy peasy and pretty much hassle-free (mind you I'm a foreigner who can barely speak/read/write a word in Chinese).
Well, 3 hours on a plane + 3 more to and from the airport vs. 11 hours on a train. Even with delays, I doubt the train will ever win on time. Besides, not all domestic flights are subject to massive delays. Beijing, Shanghai, and Guangzhou are among the worst, but I have been on plenty that left and arrived on time for other cities.

You need to be a big fan of trains to choose the latter.

There is a huge terrorism threat in China with Xinjiang separatists routinely targeting Beijing and even secondary cities in the past few years. Security measures are less strict on trains than for planes already. I would hardly consider these "unnecessary". You also don't need to know the local language to pass these checks anyway.
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Old August 27th, 2015, 05:53 AM   #9899
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Well, 3 hours on a plane + 3 more to and from the airport vs. 11 hours on a train. Even with delays, I doubt the train will ever win on time. Besides, not all domestic flights are subject to massive delays. Beijing, Shanghai, and Guangzhou are among the worst, but I have been on plenty that left and arrived on time for other cities.

You need to be a big fan of trains to choose the latter.

There is a huge terrorism threat in China with Xinjiang separatists routinely targeting Beijing and even secondary cities in the past few years. Security measures are less strict on trains than for planes already. I would hardly consider these "unnecessary". You also don't need to know the local language to pass these checks anyway.
While I was having doubts about 8-10 hour train rides I changed my perception completely after traveling on the CRH G services in China. Unless time is absolutely crucial and you must be in a certain location on certain time 2000km and 3 hours apart (which I suppose with Chinese track record of flight punctuality is a risky bet) then I find it difficult to even think of flying anywhere within China where there is a direct CRH G service. Even a more comfortable business class doesn't fix the delay issue between first tier destinations.
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While I was having doubts about 8-10 hour train rides I changed my perception completely after traveling on the CRH G services in China.
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Even a more comfortable business class doesn't fix the delay issue between first tier destinations.
And G trains usually have business class, too.
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Well, 3 hours on a plane + 3 more to and from the airport vs. 11 hours on a train. Even with delays, I doubt the train will ever win on time.
With delays, how many hours on train do win on time?
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