CHINA | High Speed Rail

[DonQui]

looks kinda like a knock-off of a Japanese Shinkansen....

[cyberjaya]

Originally Posted by DonQui

looks kinda like a knock-off of a Japanese Shinkansen....

CRH2 uses Shinkansen technology.

[zergcerebrates]

Originally Posted by DonQui

looks kinda like a knock-off of a Japanese Shinkansen....

Its not a knock off it IS a shinkansen E2 series. Japan provided the first batch China has license to built the rest its 60 of them if I remember it correctly. Why do people always think its a copy or knock off? Never thought of the possibility that they could actually buy one? Geez.

Oh in another note, China will also obtain the new Pendolino trains, and the ICE3 derived train by 2008

[elfabyanos]

Originally Posted by zergcerebrates

Its not a knock off it IS a shinkansen E2 series. Japan provided the first batch China has license to built the rest its 60 of them if I remember it correctly. Why do people always think its a copy or knock off? Never thought of the possibility that they could actually buy one? Geez.

Oh in another note, China will also obtain the new Pendolino trains, and the ICE3 derived train by 2008

Agree, it's a common dumb comment. China are researching hsr and maglev, but in both instances they went ahead and bought a functioning foreign system. The most sensible approach all round imo.

[cyberjaya]

Originally Posted by elfabyanos

Agree, it's a common dumb comment. China are researching hsr and maglev, but in both instances they went ahead and bought a functioning foreign system. The most sensible approach all round imo.

Believe me the next target of China accusing wave will be the China's ARJ series commercial passenger airplanes which is supposed to debut in 2008.

[zergcerebrates]

Originally Posted by cyberjaya

Believe me the next target of China accusing wave will be the China's ARJ series commercial passenger airplanes which is supposed to debut in 2008.

Yep, I'm sure people will say its a MD-80 knockoff

[UD2]

It is in theory a version of the MD-80... MD sold China the DC-9 technology.

[IJKT123]

How do you guys compare this CRH vs Japanese Shinkansen or Korean Version one in term of performance and technology?

Anybody has information regarding ARJ21 which will debut in 2008?

Thx

[superchan7]

E2-1000 is not one of the cutting-edge Shinkansen models in Japan...at least not anymore. Regardless, any train that runs 250 km/h in service is a formidable piece of technology.

China's railways plan to accommodate 300+ km/h trains within a few years.

[bobdikl]

If china does have its own high speed technology as pics showed, but still despetely seeking Germany, France and Japan for negotiations, I'll conclude that the motive behind this is more for potential technology absorption. Are high speed 'technologies' flexible enough for creative uses, including civil and military purposes? Sorry for raising up the defense or military issue here, I don't mean to be rude here.

Originally Posted by financial way

chinese magnetism aerotrain (fast speed) 500km/h



Domestic production rate reached 85%



chinese magnetism aerotrain (normal speed)




for magnetism aerotrain ,It takes China more than 20 years long from dream come true...
Will be in market for business in next 5 years...



China star (312.5km/h at 2003)

[Kenwen]

well, the foreigners only want 2 make money of u, so the best thing is 2 get the technology so that u can make ur country better n build everything for urself not relyin foreign companies because they can rip u off, just 1line of chinese high speed train cost something like 20billion usd, china is so big there will be hundres of lines being build in the future, so if we can build our own one it will be much better, and of course we develop them better than when the technology imported in the first place. I think technology should be shared because it makes every human being better, why not? is all because of money, isnt it, every countries r selfish of course

[Tubeman]

Can we talk about Chinese trains on this thread please?

[WotaN]

Originally Posted by financial way

chinese magnetism aerotrain (fast speed) 500km/h

Sorry, but as for me it doesn't look like exceeding even a modest 160 km/h. Its aerodynamics is ok for suburban train or metro, but definitely not for HSR.

[Karakuri]

What's that?
This is the Shanghai Transrapid:

[levine]

Where is this train running?

Originally Posted by financial way

China star (312.5km/h at 2003)

[duskdawn]

Why there are too many different trains running in China?
And why there are too many jets and ships in this thread?
Confusing.

[zergcerebrates]

[hzkiller]

国产最牛列车“快马CRH”2月起飞驰广深线(组图)




1月30日，中国铁路高速列车“快马CRH”亮相广州。今年春运，铁道部安排15组国产动车组CRH上线运营，其中6组划拨给广铁集团（公司）使用，它们将担当广深线广州东至深圳间22对旅客列车运行。目前，已有4组整修试运行完毕，将于2月1日陆续上线运营。

据悉，投入运营的高速列车将分一等、二等两个档次车票，票价将与现价差不多。4月18日铁路第六次大提速后，高速列车往返广深只需50分钟。

每列设2节吸烟车厢

昨天，一辆白色的火车静静停泊在广深线车辆段。如同子弹头一样尖尖的“脑袋”，流线型设计的外观，宽敞明亮的空间，CRH1列车无论是外观设计还是内部装饰布局，都优于普通列车。

记者发现，每组CRH1动车组由8辆车组成，其中5辆动力车，3辆拖车；首尾车辆都设有驾驶室，无须调挂车头即可双向驾驶。车厢分一等车2节和二等车6节，座位按2+2和2+3布置。每节车厢内都配备了大件行李架。列车中央空调可令车厢温度保持在26℃～28℃之间。车厢内的电子显示屏可通过GPS定位自动预告前方到达站站名。

第1节车厢由驾驶室和一等车厢组成，记者坐在宽敞的位置上，一伸手点亮“阅读灯”，温暖的灯光便洒遍全身。在3、6节车厢，一个蓝色的烟灰盒隐藏在前排座位的后靠背上。据悉，这是首列带吸烟车厢的广深列车，若获上级部门批准可吸烟，抽烟的乘客在火车上也可以过烟瘾了。在第5节车厢内，不锈钢吧台、液晶大电视，让人以为来到了某个酒吧。冰箱、微波炉、烤箱、电热水器等设施为旅途疲惫的乘客提供方便。该车厢还设置了残疾人专用轮椅位、残疾人厕所。

时速达250公里/小时

据专家介绍，与上海的CRH2相比，CRH1列车上的座位是不能旋转的。但因此节省了空间，乘客座位更宽敞。对于习惯了豪华列车的广深乘客而言，CRH1与新时速、蓝箭相比噪音小、启动快，最快可跑250公里/小时。此外CRH1与普通列车相比，车厢更宽敞，由以往3.14米增宽至3.33米；载客量大，全车定员668人，比其他车多200人。将来广深车全部使用CRH1后将大大缓解客流压力，乘客买“站票”的情况将越来越少。

记者了解到，CRH国产高速列车在广深之间的具体车次和开行日期已初步确定：广州东—深圳T971/2次、T871/2次自2月1日起开行；T771、T981、T781将从2月2日起开行，具体开行时间以售票点发售为准。（通讯员苏林、梁帅、谢小玲） (大洋网) 记者:耿旭静

[hzkiller]

CRH1

[hzkiller]

CRH1