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Old October 23rd, 2015, 01:46 PM   #10241
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I am well aware that China has countryside.
I am well aware that England isn't in China (yet).
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Old October 24th, 2015, 03:21 AM   #10242
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I am well aware that China has countryside.
I am well aware that England isn't in China (yet).
So you can tell that's England? I must commend you on your ability to identify featureless terrain, with not even one identifying dark satanic mills found among these pleasant pastures seen! Personally i could have guessed Wisconsin, Southern Russia, or Las Pampas.

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Old October 24th, 2015, 05:07 AM   #10243
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I am well aware that China has countryside.
I am well aware that England isn't in China (yet).
Why do you think scene in the video has to be China? It's perfectly clear the trainset has export customers in mind, and if it's England like you said, then it makes sense because it's a target market CRC is actively working on.
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Old October 24th, 2015, 04:51 PM   #10244
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As someone who has travelled through England, the hedgerows like that do look quite English to me, but really? Why so angsty in this thread everyone? Can we not tone it down somewhat?
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Old October 24th, 2015, 06:40 PM   #10245
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So you can tell that's England? I must commend you on your ability to identify featureless terrain, with not even one identifying dark satanic mills found among these pleasant pastures seen! Personally i could have guessed Wisconsin, Southern Russia, or Las Pampas.
Yes I can.

It's the Ouse Valley Viaduct in Sussex, on the London-Brighton main line.


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Old October 25th, 2015, 06:07 AM   #10246
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Yes I can.

It's the Ouse Valley Viaduct in Sussex, on the London-Brighton main line.


I bow to your photographic memory of terrain.
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Old October 28th, 2015, 06:08 AM   #10247
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Old October 30th, 2015, 10:40 AM   #10248
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Old October 30th, 2015, 03:56 PM   #10249
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So, any updates about the progress of Shenzhen Futian railway station?
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Old October 30th, 2015, 07:58 PM   #10250
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So, any updates about the progress of Shenzhen Futian railway station?
No news on opening. Everyone seems delayed. This one was originally scheduled to open in 2014 : http://szdaily.sznews.com/html/2013-...nt_2562036.htm
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Old October 31st, 2015, 10:45 AM   #10251
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So, any updates about the progress of Shenzhen Futian railway station?
Should be open before the end of the year.
http://news.xinhuanet.com/gangao/201..._128378616.htm

The two-month testing of tracks between Futian and Shenzhen North began a few days ago.
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Old October 31st, 2015, 10:49 AM   #10252
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Also according to the article Futian railway station will not reserve resources for customs/border facilities, probably due to uncertainty of when and even if the Hong Kong section of the line will be completed.
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Old November 1st, 2015, 12:59 AM   #10253
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Also according to the article Futian railway station will not reserve resources for customs/border facilities, probably due to uncertainty of when and even if the Hong Kong section of the line will be completed.
How come? Hongqiao has even reserved space for maglev platforms even though the chance of it ever reaching Hongqiao is now probably equal to zero. Hong Kong on the other hand will almost certainly complete its part of the HSR. Only question is when. 2018?
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Old November 1st, 2015, 05:53 AM   #10254
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High-speed railway project kicks off construction in central China

Source: Xinhua | Date: 2015-10-31

Construction of a high-speed railway began on Saturday to connect central China's Henan and Hubei provinces with southwestern Chongqing Municipality.

The 818-km electrified railway links Zhengzhou, provincial capital of Henan, with Wanzhou District of Chongqing, with a designed speed of 350 km per hour. The total investment is estimated at around 120 billion yuan. When completed, the railway will cut the travel time between Zhengzhou and Chongqing from 17 hours to four hours.

Link: http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/20..._134769937.htm
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Old November 1st, 2015, 04:28 PM   #10255
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Source: Xinhua | Date: 2015-10-31

Construction of a high-speed railway began on Saturday to connect central China's Henan and Hubei provinces with southwestern Chongqing Municipality.

The 818-km electrified railway links Zhengzhou, provincial capital of Henan, with Wanzhou District of Chongqing, with a designed speed of 350 km per hour. The total investment is estimated at around 120 billion yuan. When completed, the railway will cut the travel time between Zhengzhou and Chongqing from 17 hours to four hours.

Link: http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/20..._134769937.htm
Any idea about the route and where would the major intermediate stations be?
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Old November 1st, 2015, 05:41 PM   #10256
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Source: Xinhua | Date: 2015-10-31

Construction of a high-speed railway began on Saturday to connect central China's Henan and Hubei provinces with southwestern Chongqing Municipality.

The 818-km electrified railway links Zhengzhou, provincial capital of Henan, with Wanzhou District of Chongqing, with a designed speed of 350 km per hour. The total investment is estimated at around 120 billion yuan. When completed, the railway will cut the travel time between Zhengzhou and Chongqing from 17 hours to four hours.

Link: http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/20..._134769937.htm
Good news. There is very little information on this one in Wikipedia or other English language sources. I can only see that it's listed as a 770km length line in Wiki article. No separate page and no indication of designed speed. Is it going to be a real 350km/h line? I.e. not one of those 'with possibility to upgrade in the future' while 'initially will run at 200km/h'?

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Any idea about the route and where would the major intermediate stations be?
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HSR linking Zhengzhou, Xiangyang, Badong and Wanzhou
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Old November 1st, 2015, 06:21 PM   #10257
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How come? Hongqiao has even reserved space for maglev platforms even though the chance of it ever reaching Hongqiao is now probably equal to zero. Hong Kong on the other hand will almost certainly complete its part of the HSR. Only question is when. 2018?
Space for border facilities can prob be made once there is a clearer timeline for the Hong Kong section. Pushing the completion date back by three-four years in 2015 when the project was originally meant to be done in 2016 creates a lot of uncertainty. If Hongqiao still has that space reserved, it should make better use of it.
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Old November 3rd, 2015, 06:20 AM   #10258
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The plan has always been for co-location of Hong Kong and Mainland customs and immigration controls at West Kowloon Terminus in Hong Kong. Passengers will officially “enter” the Mainland (ie clear customs and immigration) in West Kowloon before they board the train, so that no such facilities are required at Futian or any other station. This will mean that service can be offered from Hong Kong to dozens of cities throughout the mainland without the need for immigration control at all of them.

Recently, Hong Kong has started saying that there are legal and constitutional issues with allowing Mainland officers to carry out their duties on Hong Kong territory. But this has always been an essential feature of the project and is the only sensible and realistic solution to adding Hong Kong to the national HSR network. The Mainland stations are already substantially completed with no space for immigration and it is not feasible to create and staff control points at many other stations across the country just for Hong Kong service.

At Shenzhen Bay Port (car and person crossing), the Mainland already agreed an arrangement where Hong Kong laws are applied on their side of the checkpoint, and their staff can carry out their duties, even though it is physically in Shenzhen. So I hope they will be able to resolve the issues and reach an agreement for Mainland officers to do the same at West Kowloon.
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Old November 5th, 2015, 02:07 AM   #10259
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Old November 5th, 2015, 06:54 AM   #10260
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The plan has always been for co-location of Hong Kong and Mainland customs and immigration controls at West Kowloon Terminus in Hong Kong. Passengers will officially “enter” the Mainland (ie clear customs and immigration) in West Kowloon before they board the train, so that no such facilities are required at Futian or any other station. This will mean that service can be offered from Hong Kong to dozens of cities throughout the mainland without the need for immigration control at all of them.

Recently, Hong Kong has started saying that there are legal and constitutional issues with allowing Mainland officers to carry out their duties on Hong Kong territory. But this has always been an essential feature of the project and is the only sensible and realistic solution to adding Hong Kong to the national HSR network. The Mainland stations are already substantially completed with no space for immigration and it is not feasible to create and staff control points at many other stations across the country just for Hong Kong service.

At Shenzhen Bay Port (car and person crossing), the Mainland already agreed an arrangement where Hong Kong laws are applied on their side of the checkpoint, and their staff can carry out their duties, even though it is physically in Shenzhen. So I hope they will be able to resolve the issues and reach an agreement for Mainland officers to do the same at West Kowloon.
This scheme is similar to US border preclearance they have in Canadian airports, just that you replace the USA with mainland China and Canada with Hong Kong.
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