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Old May 13th, 2016, 07:45 PM   #10801
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130km/h average speed. That's normal considering the number of intermediate stops and distance. The fastest service takes 2:40 with two intermediate stops at an average speed of 141km/h. This is in line with other 200km/h D routes.


I always see it as rooms for improvement for cheap speed up in the future as the entire system matures. Keeps mind the entire system is barely 10 years old, and both customer base and operational experience need to catch up with infrastructure.
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Old May 13th, 2016, 10:54 PM   #10802
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I always see it as rooms for improvement for cheap speed up in the future as the entire system matures. Keeps mind the entire system is barely 10 years old, and both customer base and operational experience need to catch up with infrastructure.
Surely so. Also let's keep in mind that most of the 200km/h lines are actually 250km/h lines with an imposed speed limit of ~210km/h. So technically speaking a speedup could happen tomorrow if they decided so.
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Old May 14th, 2016, 01:37 AM   #10803
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Surely so. Also let's keep in mind that most of the 200km/h lines are actually 250km/h lines with an imposed speed limit of ~210km/h. So technically speaking a speedup could happen tomorrow if they decided so.


Indeed, i have feeling that next speed up will happen with flexible pricing.
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Old May 16th, 2016, 05:37 PM   #10804
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Zhengzhou-Xuzhou HSR in test,open in Sep or Oct




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Old May 16th, 2016, 09:14 PM   #10805
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Old May 17th, 2016, 12:03 AM   #10806
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Hangzhou East Railway Station, one of the largest hubs in China.















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Old May 17th, 2016, 06:14 AM   #10807
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Eh, where is the runway?
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Old May 17th, 2016, 09:18 AM   #10808
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Hangzhou East Railway Station, one of the largest hubs in China.

Certainly better and more accessible that the old Hangzhou East station that was across the river. I have travelled through the new station several times recently and it is definitely an improvement from having to sit on the floor in a crowded small room.
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Old May 18th, 2016, 09:08 PM   #10809
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In Pic: High-speed rail has extended over 1,700 kilometers in south #China's #Guangxi.
Let's continue the 'porn' with an (almost) triple-stacked rail bridge.

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Old May 19th, 2016, 03:51 AM   #10810
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The misty backdrop resembles a work of Claude Monet.
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Old May 21st, 2016, 03:17 AM   #10811
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Nice china has high speed rail.
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Old May 22nd, 2016, 09:41 PM   #10812
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Nice china has high speed rail.
You didn't know that?
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Old May 22nd, 2016, 09:44 PM   #10813
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Nice china has high speed rail.

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Old May 25th, 2016, 02:26 PM   #10814
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Nice china has high speed rail.
Chinese don't have private Federal Reserve as you Americans have, so they can invest money building modern infrastucture instead of paying the interest of their debt.
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Old May 26th, 2016, 09:35 AM   #10815
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Laws of economics apply to everyone, it's just that right now China has extra money due to large surpluses in import/export and comparatively not that much being spent on social care.
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Old May 26th, 2016, 12:26 PM   #10816
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Laws of economics apply to everyone, it's just that right now China has extra money due to large surpluses in import/export and comparatively not that much being spent on social care.
No, the same economic laws does not apply in China as in the US. Chinese investment is being determined by their strategic Five Year Plan. In all practical sense, railway investment in China is detached from the market sector.
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Old May 26th, 2016, 02:27 PM   #10817
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In all practical sense, railway investment in China is detached from the market sector.
It's just unprofitable.
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Old May 26th, 2016, 03:18 PM   #10818
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No, the same economic laws does not apply in China as in the US. Chinese investment is being determined by their strategic Five Year Plan. In all practical sense, railway investment in China is detached from the market sector.
The rail sector might be detached from market realities (that's the case in most countries, anyway), but overall economic rules still do apply. Chinese government because has money because of reasons described above. They couldn't just print it without becoming another Zimbabwe. Americans can to some extent because dollar is the global reserve currency, but even that has serious limitations.
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Old May 27th, 2016, 06:18 PM   #10819
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It's just unprofitable.
It's not supposed to be.

Increases in land value around stations usually help offset some of the costs. Furthermore, productivity benefits considered alone would probably result in >1 BCR. Add in accessibility, time savings and environmental benefits just to name a few, you'll clearly see building this HSR network in a densely populated place like China is a no brainer.
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Old May 27th, 2016, 06:37 PM   #10820
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The rail sector might be detached from market realities (that's the case in most countries, anyway), but overall economic rules still do apply. Chinese government because has money because of reasons described above. They couldn't just print it without becoming another Zimbabwe. Americans can to some extent because dollar is the global reserve currency, but even that has serious limitations.
Money does not cause 'inflation' - scarcity does.
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