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Old August 14th, 2016, 05:06 AM   #10921
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Old August 14th, 2016, 10:38 AM   #10922
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Map 8 + 8 PDL translated

Well I pretend to know and put in place all I can.




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The light green line parallel to the 12 is also, in some sections, line 12

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Old August 14th, 2016, 11:46 AM   #10923
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North → South:

06- Beijing-Kunming PDL (deep purple): Beijing-Taiyuan-Xi'an-Chengdu-Chongqing-Kunming.
It appears not to go Chengdu-Kunming via Chongqing, but rather have a branch to Chonqing from some point between Chengdu and Kunming.
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Old August 14th, 2016, 01:16 PM   #10924
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Urumqi's new railway station for high-speed rails in Urumqi on Aug 12, 2016. The station, which is the railway junction with the largest scale and the most advanced facilities in Xinjiang, was put into use on Friday.

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Old August 14th, 2016, 01:37 PM   #10925
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It appears not to go Chengdu-Kunming via Chongqing, but rather have a branch to Chonqing from some point between Chengdu and Kunming.
Yeah right.
I think in the last map just above your message perfectly see that the line is Chengdu-Yibin-Kunming, and Chongqing-Yibin branch.

With the translated map were some changes.
The new list based on the map and not translated from Chinese Wikipedia is this:
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Old August 14th, 2016, 01:43 PM   #10926
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8 PDL North → South + 8 East → West:



PDL North → South:

01- Coastal PDL Dalian-Beihai (light blue): Dandong-Dalian-Yingkou-Shenyang-Panjin-Qinhuangdao-Tianjin East-Dongying-Weifang-Qingdao-Lianyungang-Yancheng-Nantong-Shanghai-Hangzhou-Ningbo-Fuzhou-Xiamen-Shenzhen-Zhanjiang-Beihai-Fangchenggang (near Vietnam). Branches: Yingkou-Panjin, Tianjin East-Beijing (Pekín) and Weifang/Qingdao-Yantai.

02- Harbin-Hong Kong PDL (dark green): Harbin-Changchun-Shenyang-Beijing (Pekín)-Shijiazhuang-Zhengzhou-Wuhan-Changsha-Guangzhou (Cantón)-Zhuhai (Macao). Branches: Changchun-Jilin-Hunchun (frontera con Rusia and Corea) and Guangzhou- Shenzhen.

03- Beijing-Hong Kong PDL (red): Beijing (Pekín)-Hengshui-Heze-Shangqiu-Fuyang-Huanggang-Jiujiang-Nanchang-Ganzhou-Shenzhen-Futian-West Kowloon (Hong Kong). Branches: Nanchang-Putian/Fuzhou, Hefei-Jiujiang and Fuyang-Hefei-Nanping-Fuzhou-Taipei (Taiwan).

04- Beijing-Shanghai PDL (yellow): Beijing (Pekín)-Tianjin West-Jinan-Xuzhou-Nanjing-Shanghai; branche Nanjing-Hangzhou and branche Bengbu-Hefei-Hangzhou. There will also be a second parallel line: Weifang-Linyi-Huai'an-Yangzhou-Nantong.

05- Hohhot-Nanning PDL (purple): Hohhot (Huhhot, west of Beijing)-Datong-Taiyuan-Zhengzhou- Xiangyang-Changde-Yiyang-Shaoyang-Yongzhou-Guilin-Liuzhou-Nanning (near Vietnam).

06- Beijing-Kunming PDL (deep purple): Beijing (Pekín)-Datong-Taiyuan-Xi'an-Chengdu-Yibin-Kunming. Branches: Beijing-Shijiazhuang-Taiyuan and Chongqing-Yibin.

07- Baotou/Yinchuan-Haikou PDL (dark blue): Baotou (west of Beijing)-Yan'an-Xi'an-Chongqing-Guiyang-Nanning-Qinzhou-Beihai-Zhanjiang-Haikou-Hainan circle (Hainan) and branche Yinchuan-Xi'an.

08- Xining-Guangzhou PDL (light purple): Xining-Rongwo-Chengdu-Guiyang-Guangzhou (Cantón) and branche Lanzhou-Rongwo.

PDL East → West:

09- Qingdao-Yinchuan PDL (light green): Qingdao-Jinan-Shijiazhuang-Taiyuan-Yinchuan.

10- Lianyungang-Urumqi PDL (brown): Lianyungang-Xuzhou-Zhengzhou-Xi'an-Baoji-Lanzhou-Hami-Urumqi.

11- Shanghai-Kunming PDL (light blue): Shanghai-Hangzhou-Nanchang-Changsha-Xinhuang-Guiyang-Kunming.

12- Shanghai-Chengdu PDL (greenish blue): Shanghai-Nanjing-Hefei-Wuhan-Yichang-Chongqing-Chengdu. Branches: Nanjing-Anqing-Jiujiang, Lichuan-Wanzhou and Chengdu-Suining.

13- Suifenhe-Manzhouli PDL (light blue): Suifenhe (Russian border East)-Mudanjiang-Harbin-Qiqihar-Hailar-Manzhouli (Russian border in Inner Mongolia).

14- Beijing-Lanzhou PDL (brown green): Beijing (Pekín)-Hohhot-Yinchuan-Lanzhou.

15- Xiamen-Chongqing PDL (pink): Xiamen-Longyan-Ganzhou-Changsha-Yiyang-Changde-Chongqing.

16- Guangzhou-Kunming PDL (dark gray): Guangzhou (Cantón)-Nanning-Kunming.




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The light green line parallel to the 12 is also, in some sections, line 12

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Old August 14th, 2016, 09:51 PM   #10927
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PDL North → South:
05- Hohhot-Nanning PDL (purple): Hohhot (Huhhot, west of Beijing)-Datong-Taiyuan-Zhengzhou- Xiangyang-Changde-Yiyang-Shaoyang-Yongzhou-Guilin-Liuzhou-Nanning (near Vietnam).
It still looks orange rather than purple.
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Old August 24th, 2016, 05:22 AM   #10928
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Two strikes, you're out (for a while)! China's high-speed rails to smokers
http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1000827.shtml

Train passengers caught smoking two times on China's high-speed rails now face a temporary ban from buying tickets.

Since August 15, riders aboard high-speed trains who are spotted puffing in non-designated smoking areas not only face an up to 2,000 yuan ($320), on-the-spot fine, but also will be flagged for the violation in China's ticketing database, according to the new China Railway Engineering Corporation regulation.

The first-time offenders will be required to sign an "agreement" at a railway service center in order to purchase their next ticket.

A second offense results in a ban from high-speed (G, D, C class train) ticket purchases both at station windows and online.

The length of the ban was not reported.

The rule does not apply to travel on conventional rail (Z, T, K class trains).

The regulation sparked debate on social media, particularly over the length of the ban.

Some suggested incremental bans based on severity of the case between one and 10 years.

Numerous smoke detectors are installed throughout high-speed rail trains, including cabins, toilets and dining cars, a railway insider told the Yangtze Evening News.
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Old August 25th, 2016, 02:59 AM   #10929
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Plenty smoke on the platform after getting off trains. I presume that area should be non-smoking as well?
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Old August 25th, 2016, 12:56 PM   #10930
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Well I pretend to know and put in place all I can.

The little kink below Beijing at line 3 (the red line), does that mean that it will have a station at the new Daxing airport?
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Old August 27th, 2016, 01:16 PM   #10931
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8 + 8 PDL

Update of my previous posts.

I did not have time to translate, sorry, but I think it is understood that basically means is to count only the sections included in the 8 + 8 PDL and Beijing-Tianjin West and Yingkou-Panjin.

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Según el XIII Plan Quinquenal aprobado recientemente, la Comisión Nacional de Desarrollo y Reformas (NDRC) espera que la longitud de las líneas dedicadas únicamente al transporte de viajeros (PDL) pase de los 19.000 km de finales de 2015 (en todo el mundo hay 31.951 según la UIC) a los 30.000 en 2020, y alcance los 38.000 en 2025, llegando a todas las ciudades de más de cinco millones de habitantes. La concepción de la red pasará de la actual, con cuatro corredores principales Norte-Sur y otros cuatro Este-Oeste, a otra con el doble de corredores:

NORTE→SUR
01– Dalian-Beihai Coastal PDL (azul claro): Dandong-Dalian-Yingkou-Shenyang-Panjin-Qinhuangdao-Tianjin West-Dongying-Weifang-Qingdao-Lianyungang-Yancheng-Nantong-Shanghái-Hangzhou-Ningbo-Fuzhou-Xiamen-Shenzhen-Zhanjiang-Beihai-Fangchenggang (cerca de Vietnam). Ramales: Yingkou-Panjin, Tianjin West-Beijing (Pekín) y Weifang/Qingdao-Yantai.
02– Harbin-Hong Kong PDL (verde oscuro): Harbin-Changchun-Shenyang-Beijing (Pekín)-Shijiazhuang-Zhengzhou-Wuhan-Changsha-Guangzhou (Cantón)-Zhuhai (Macao). Ramal: Guangzhou-Shenzhen.
03– Beijing-Hong Kong PDL (rojo): Beijing (Pekín)-Hengshui-Heze-Shangqiu-Fuyang-Huanggang-Jiujiang-Nanchang-Ganzhou-Shenzhen-Futian-West Kowloon (Hong Kong). Ramales: Nanchang-Putian/Fuzhou, Hefei-Jiujiang y Fuyang-Hefei-Nanping-Fuzhou-Taipéi (en la isla de Taiwán).
04– Beijing-Shanghái PDL (amarillo): Beijing (Pekín)-Tianjin South-Jinan-Xuzhou-Nanjing-Shanghái; ramal Nanjing-Hangzhou y ramal Bengbu-Hefei-Hangzhou.
También habrá una segunda línea paralela: Weifang-Linyi-Huai'an-Yangzhou-Nantong.
05– Hohhot-Nanning PDL (marrón claro): Hohhot (Huhhot, al oeste de Beijing)-Datong-Taiyuan-Zhengzhou- Xiangyang-Changde-Yiyang-Shaoyang-Yongzhou-Guilin-Liuzhou-Nanning (cerca de Vietnam).
06– Beijing-Kunming PDL (morado): Beijing (Pekín)-Datong-Taiyuan-Xi'an-Chengdu-Yibin-Kunming. Ramales: Beijing-Shijiazhuang-Taiyuan y Chongqing-Yibin.
07– Baotou/Yinchuan-Haikou PDL (azul oscuro): Baotou (al oeste de Beijing)-Yan'an-Xi'an-Chongqing-Guiyang-Nanning-Qinzhou-Beihai-Zhanjiang-Haikou-Hainan circle (en la isla de Hainan) y ramal Yinchuan-Xi'an.
08– Xining-Guangzhou PDL (lila): Xining-Rongwo-Chengdu-Guiyang-Guangzhou (Cantón) y ramal Lanzhou-Rongwo.

ESTE→OESTE
09– Qingdao-Yinchuan PDL (verde claro): Qingdao-Jinan-Shijiazhuang-Taiyuan-Yinchuan.
10– Lianyungang-Urumqi PDL (marrón): Lianyungang-Xuzhou-Zhengzhou-Xi'an-Baoji-Lanzhou-Hami-Urumqi.
11– Shanghái-Kunming PDL (azul): Shanghái-Hangzhou-Nanchang-Changsha-Xinhuang-Guiyang-Kunming.
12– Shanghái-Chengdu PDL (dos líneas entrelazadas centrales: verde oscuro y verde claro): Shanghái-Nanjing-Hefei-Wuhan-Yichang-Chongqing-Chengdu.
También habrá una segunda línea entrelazada: Nanjing-Anqing-Jiujiang-Wuhan-Xiangyang-Wanzhou-Suining-Chengdu.
13– Suifenhe-Manzhouli PDL (azul claro, al norte): Suifenhe (frontera rusa al este)-Mudanjiang-Harbin-Qiqihar-Hailar-Manzhouli (frontera rusa en Mongolia interior).
14– Beijing-Lanzhou PDL (marrón verdoso): Beijing (Pekín)-Hohhot-Yinchuan-Lanzhou.
15– Xiamen-Chongqing PDL (rosa): Xiamen-Longyan-Ganzhou-Changsha-Yiyang-Changde-Chongqing.
16– Guangzhou-Kunming PDL (gris oscuro): Guangzhou (Cantón)-Nanning-Kunming.




Tramos duplicados: Beijing-Tianjin y Shanghái-Nanjing, todos ellos a 309 km/h; además, durante los primeros 15 km desde Guangzhou South hasta Foshan (hacia el norte) hay 3 PDL juntas (6 vías): hacia Wuhan, Guiyang y Nanning. Tramos a duplicar: Beijing-Kalgan, Beijing-Shijiazhuang, Shijiazhuang-Taiyuan, Datong-Taiyuan, Weifang-Qingdao, Shanghái-Hangzhou, Chengdu-Yibin y Zhanjiang-Beihai. Está previsto construir líneas desde el continente hasta las islas de Hainan y de Taiwán.

Tramos en servicio de cada corredor principal (PDL):
01– Dalian-Beihai Coastal PDL: Dalian-Beijing, Yingkou-Panjin, Hangzhou-Shenzhen y Maoming-Zhanjiang: 3.287 km
02– Harbin-Hong Kong PDL: Harbin-Shenyang y Beijing-Zhuhai: 2.830 km
03– Beijing-Hong Kong PDL: Jiujiang-Nanchang, Hefei-Fuzhou, Nanchang-Fuzhou y Shenzhen-Futian: 1.498 km
04– Beijing-Shanghái PDL: Beijing-Shanghái, Bengbu-Hefei y Nanjing-Hangzhou: 1.698 km
05– Hohhot-Nanning PDL: Guilin-Nanning: 368 km
06– Beijing-Kunming PDL: Taiyuan-Xi’an: 599 km
07– Baotou/Yinchuan-Haikou PDL: Nanning-Beihai y Hainan Circle: 858 km
08– Xining-Guangzhou PDL: Guiyang-Guangzhou: 857 km
09– Qingdao-Yinchuan PDL: Qingdao-Jinan y Shijiazhuang-Taiyuan: 552 km
10– Lianyungang-Urumqi PDL: Zhengzhou-Baoji y Lanzhou-Urumqi: 2.382 km
11– Shanghái-Kunming PDL: Shanghái-Guiyang: 1.793 km
12– Shanghái-Chengdu PDL: Shanghái-Chengdu; 2Ş línea: Nanjing-Anqing, Huangshi-Wuhan-Xiaogan y Suining-Chengdu: 2.531 km
13– Suifenhe-Manzhouli PDL: Harbin-Qiqihar: 281 km
14– Beijing-Lanzhou PDL: ninguno
15– Xiamen-Chongqing PDL: Longyan-Xiamen: 171 km
16– Guangzhou-Kunming PDL: Guangzhou-Baise: 799 km

Total: 20.504 km de PDL (9.334 para 309 km/h y 11.170 para 250 km/h). Según la UIC: 19.057.









Estos son los km inaugurados cada ańo. Se puede apreciar, por ejemplo, que el mayor número de km para 300 km/h fue en 2012, mientras que para 250 km/h fue en 2014.



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Más información (viajeros, trenes y servicios hasta el 31/12/2015), fotografías de los nuevos trenes, incluyendo el Tren Chino Estándar de AV (en servicio desde hace ayer) y fuentes en la Wikipedia.
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Old August 27th, 2016, 05:31 PM   #10932
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Does the coastal line Shenzhen-Shanghai have G services?
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Just because a train is designated G does not mean it operates at 300 km/h everywhere. My understanding is that trains which run at 300 km/h for part of the route, and on 200 km/h lines limited to 200 km/h for another part of the route are designated G.
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Old August 28th, 2016, 02:35 PM   #10934
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What's the price of a ticket for a train ride from Beijing to Harbin and how long does it take to get there?
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What's the price of a ticket for a train ride from Beijing to Harbin and how long does it take to get there?
Slow trains take from 10:03 (Z17) to 20:37 (K4729). Hard seat mostly 152 yuan 5 jiao.
D train takes 8:39, second class seat 313 yuan 5 jiao.
G trains take 7:06-7:07, second class seat 541 yuan 5 jiao.
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Okay... how much is that in Euros? I want to compare the ticket price with prices in Europe.
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1€=7 yuan 4 jiao 7 fen
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Old August 29th, 2016, 01:46 AM   #10938
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I am always amazed how cheap the tickets are..
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Old August 29th, 2016, 01:57 PM   #10939
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The ticket prices are set relative to local incomes, and longer distance trips are unaffordable for the masses.
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The ticket prices are set relative to local incomes, and longer distance trips are unaffordable for the masses.
Relative to Chinese, not local incomes.
Consider a trip from Guizhou - till 2014, the poorest province of China - to Shanghai, like migrating to work, or back to work after a New Year.
Guiyang-Shanghai by slow train is 2022 km.
5 K trains run - but not a single number, T or Z train.
Trip time 1:02:10 to 1:05:49.
Hard seat for 26...30 hours is 229 yuan, which is €30 and some cents.
Guiyang North-Shanghai Hongqiao by CRH is 1789 km
5 G trains run - but no D trains.
Trip time 8:57 to 9:45.
Second class seat for 9...10 hours is 734 yuan 5 jiao, which is €98 and some cents.

So, can masses travel longer distance by train?
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