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Old October 20th, 2016, 05:55 AM   #11101
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A 10-hour journey from Shanghai to Kunming will not be competitive with commercial air travel. By the time you make it out to Hongqiao, you may as well fly the rest of the way.
The increasingly restriction of aviation services that upset the passengers have compelled many passengers to look for High speed train as the alternative while some prefer compromises - slightly slower but getting scenic along the routes.
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Old October 20th, 2016, 07:46 AM   #11102
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New high-speed railway to connect East and West China
Oct. 17, 2016
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The Hukun (Shanghai-Kunming) High-Speed Railway (HSR), completed this June, will open to traffic on Nov 30, shortening the distance between Shanghai and Kunming from more than 40 hours to around 10.
Cannot find such trains. The slowest of the 3 trains Shanghai-Kunming is T381, and it takes 39 hours 51 minutes to cover 2899 km Shanghai South-Kunming.
39:51 is not more than 40 hours. It is less than 40 hours.
K79 covers the distance, of 2660 km, in 35:34.
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Old October 20th, 2016, 10:08 AM   #11103
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A 10-hour journey from Shanghai to Kunming will not be competitive with commercial air travel. By the time you make it out to Hongqiao, you may as well fly the rest of the way.
The main market would be for points in between Shanghai and Kunming. However for end to end users, the attraction is not for overall travel time but that it runs to a dependable timetable. Chinese airlines are notoriously running late due to the rigid military control of the airspace and not being able to fly around bad weather or other issues. Once the delays start in the morning, the snowball across the country, meaning that evening flights can be delayed for hours or cancelled outright.

So pending on the need and certainty of being in the right place at the right time, rail is the winner for many Chinese business people and families.
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Old October 20th, 2016, 10:09 AM   #11104
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Impressive.
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Old October 20th, 2016, 10:55 AM   #11105
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New high-speed railway to connect East and West China
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The Hukun (Shanghai-Kunming) High-Speed Railway (HSR), completed this June, will open to traffic on Nov 30, shortening the distance between Shanghai and Kunming from more than 40 hours to around 10.
What shall be the travel time Guiyang-Kunming?
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Old October 20th, 2016, 03:13 PM   #11106
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What shall be the travel time Guiyang-Kunming?
I can't find the schedules on CTrip. 昆明南 (Kunmingnan) station isn't even loaded in there.

From this source : http://www.huoche.net/gaotie_10353/

贵阳到昆明有465公里,按照350公里的时速,至少要70分钟左右

The travel time between Guiyang and Kunming will be about 70 minutes at speeds of 350 km/h.
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Old October 20th, 2016, 05:10 PM   #11107
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Isn't that railway already 80% operational with only Guyiang-Kunming section still missing?
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Old October 20th, 2016, 07:53 PM   #11108
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Isn't that railway already 80% operational with only Guyiang-Kunming section still missing?
Hongqiao-Guiyang is 1789 km. How long shall Guiyang-Kunming high speed railway be?
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Old October 21st, 2016, 01:45 PM   #11109
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Hongqiao-Guiyang is 1789 km. How long shall Guiyang-Kunming high speed railway be?
From the same source : http://www.huoche.net/gaotie_10353/

贵阳到昆明有465公里,按照350公里的时速,至少要70分钟左右。

Guiyang is 465km from Kunming.
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Old October 21st, 2016, 02:40 PM   #11110
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Always a step ahead
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Old October 21st, 2016, 04:27 PM   #11111
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For comparison:
Guiyang-Xupu 435 km
Guiyang-Xinhua 492 km

Fastest travel time Guiyang North-Xupu South is 2:09. Fastest time Guiyang North-Xinhua South is 2:19.
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Old October 21st, 2016, 06:04 PM   #11112
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Tracking China
http://en.trackingchina.com/2016/10/18/20161018-1125/

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Track Laying Begins on Sichuan Part of Xi’an-Chengdu High Speed Railway
BY DAVID FENG · 18 OCTOBER 2016

The Sichuan part of the Xi’an-Chengdu HSR is now well on its way to being reality, with track-laying begun on this stretch. With works beginning in March 2013 and scheduled to last for 4 years and 9 months, the new line, 509.4 km (318⅓ mi) in length, should be ready and open to the public in late 2017. Part of the new route is the Mianyang-Chengdu-Leshan HSR, which has already opened to public rail traffic.

This means that, along with the Shaanxi part beginning track-laying as early as September 2016, this line should be opened to the public in the not too distant future. The route goes through the greater Qinling Mountain Range, thus it travels through relatively mountainous terrain. Maximum speeds were originally planned at 350 km/h (217 mph), but have since been downgraded, unfortunately, to 250 km/h (157 mph).

However, the new line will still be a major “speedbump” for rail traffic between Chengdu, southwestern central China, and the capital, Beijing. Right now, the fastest regular rail train service, Train Z50, takes 22 hours and 19 minutes; when overnight sleeper HSR services were briefly available around 2011, travel times were 16 hours or so. Currently, the fastest HSR services take 14 hours and 23 minutes to go between the two cities. With the new HSR line in operation, trains will travel from Chengdu via Xi’an, using only approximately 8 hours — almost twice as fast as today’s fastest trains. Regional traffic will also see a boost: HSR will mean that travel between Chengdu and Xi’an will only take 3 hours.
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Old October 22nd, 2016, 04:28 AM   #11113
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New high-speed railway to connect East and West China
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The new trains will be different from the current HSR trains which are usually white. The new HSR trains will be grey and bullet-shaped, hence the nickname "bullet trains".

A variety of conveniences for passengers will also be available on the new trains, including microwave ovens and refrigerators to allow passengers more ways to store and heat their own food, as at present they can only use the boiling water to cook instant noodles.
Curious, any idea what train models these would be? The only grey and "bullet" shape train I can think of is the CRH380A. Even the brand new CRH-0207 and CRH-0503?

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Old October 22nd, 2016, 02:01 PM   #11114
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Are two prototypes (the Golden Phoenix and the Blue Dolphin).

Which it is on the right circulates in commercial service since August 15, 2016.
I call it CRH350A because it is initially manufactured by Qingdao Sifang (CSR), so it is on the left, manufactured by China North Rolling Stock (CNR), will be the CRH500B.

All CRH train series and more.
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Old October 23rd, 2016, 12:18 AM   #11115
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Hefei-Fuzhou High Speed Railway between Shangrao and Nanping North:





A CRH380A train at Wuyishan East Railway Station, Fujian Province on the Hefei-Fuzhou High Speed Railway:

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Old October 23rd, 2016, 12:24 AM   #11116
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Departure From: Shanghai Hongqiao Railway Station
Arrival To: Xiamen North, Fujian Province
Train No: G1653
Travel Class: First Class
Distance: 1,085 km
Duration: 6 hours 25 minutes
Top speed: 312 km/h
Route: Hangzhou East, Jinhua, Shangrao, Nanping North, Fuzhou, Putian, Quanzhou
Operator: China Railway High-Speed, Shanghai Railway Bureau
Trainset: CRH380B-3645 (8-car set)
Family: Siemens Velaro
Manufacturer: CNR Tangshan Railway Vehicle Co. Ltd.



Schematic map of the journey (blue-line):





Shanghai Hongqiao Railway Station:





Departure board, with the train G1653 to Xiamen listed:






Our CRH380B high speed train:





Business Class:





First Class section in Car no. 1 (booked by me):







Our max speed on the Shanghai-Kunming High-Speed Railway is 312 km/h:





Approaching Hangzhou, Zhejiang Province:





Nanjing–Hangzhou Passenger Railway in the background:





Another two coupled CRH380B trainsets:







A CRH380A trainset at Hangzhou East Railway Station:





Crossing the Qiantang River:







Hangzhou–Ningbo High-Speed Railway is forking off to the east:





Between Hangzhou and Jinhua on the Shanghai-Kunming High-Speed Railway:










Between Jinhua and Shangrao on the Shanghai-Kunming High-Speed Railway:









Yushan South Railway Station, Jiangxi Province:





Shangrao Junction in Jiangxi Province:
Turning from the Shanghai–Kunming to the Hefei–Fuzhou High-Speed Railway:









Shangrao Railway Station (upper part):





Driving south towards the coast on the Hefei–Fuzhou High-Speed Railway:





The train is pretty empty, at least in First Class:





Minjiang River near Nanping:





Nanping North Railway Station on the Hefei–Fuzhou High-Speed Railway:





Fuzhou Railway Station:





Putian Railway Station on the Fuzhou–Xiamen Railway, Fujian Province:





Quanzhou Railway Station on the Fuzhou–Xiamen Railway, Fujian Province:





Xiamen North Railway Station in Southern Fujian Province:







Departure area of Xiamen North:





Here again is the video trip report:



Here is the direct link to Youtube.



Enjoy!
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Old October 24th, 2016, 10:14 PM   #11117
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Chinese are very enthusiastic about building railways worldwide, they are also engaged in Moscow - Kazan high speed rail line construction. Veeery expensive project.
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"New high-speed railway in N. China begins construction"

http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1013052.shtml

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Construction has begun on a new high-speed railway linking the northern coal-rich Shanxi province to the central province of Henan.

The 358-km-long railway starts in Taiyuan, capital of Shanxi, and ends in Henan's Jiaozuo City. Construction began on a 33-km stretch in Henan on Friday.
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Old October 31st, 2016, 09:21 PM   #11119
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Any news about the Baoji-Lanzhou HSR? It should be 350 km/h and not 250 km/h...


Any plans about a 350 km/h Shanghai- Wuhan - Chongqing HSR line?



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Old November 2nd, 2016, 10:19 AM   #11120
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"New high-speed railway in N. China begins construction"

http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1013052.shtml
Jiaozuo-Zhengzhou high speed railway is now served by C trains, that now take 34 minutes to cover 78 km nonstop.
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