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Old March 13th, 2017, 05:30 AM   #11381
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I made a Google map of Pearl River infrastructure, with high-speed rail, intercity rail (existing and planned) and the two Pearl River crossings (HK-Macau/Zhuhai and Shenzhen-Zhongshan).

The HSR and IC lines are partially based on incomplete information (stations marked with ? or ??).
You can see the path of the Foshan Dongguang and Guangzhou Dongguang Shenzhen ICs under construction in satellite view. That should help. Also the Dongguang Huizhou IC does not go to Guangzhou via the Gunagshen railway. It tunnels under Dongguang and will connect with the Foshan Dongguang IC. Also you are missing the Qingyuan Guangzhou IC.

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Old March 13th, 2017, 02:27 PM   #11382
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not sure if this was posted here before - life of a bullet train driver (only in Chinese)

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Old March 18th, 2017, 12:27 AM   #11383
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Photos taken along the Hukun line (Shanghai - Kunming), near Anshun, Guizhou





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Old March 18th, 2017, 05:57 PM   #11384
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Has it been said already that a lot of lines are going to raise speed to 250km from the current 200km in April?
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Old March 18th, 2017, 10:31 PM   #11385
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Has it been said already that a lot of lines are going to raise speed to 250km from the current 200km in April?
Is this really going to happen? Source? If so it would be a fantastic news.
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Old March 19th, 2017, 04:06 AM   #11386
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haven't noticed about that, but it is confirmed that the top speed is not going to be raised to 350km/h in the near future. Multiple Chinese news sources have reported, citing a press conference speech by Wang Mengshu from the Chinese Academy of Engineering during the National Congress.

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Old March 19th, 2017, 08:53 AM   #11387
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Is this really going to happen? Source? If so it would be a fantastic news.
It's been widely reported in Chinese media. According to Caixin, citing a source from the operating company of the Shanghai-Shenzhen high speed railway line, prices of second and first class tickets on the Ningbo-Shenzhen segment will increase by up to 30% and 70% from April 21, and speed will increase to 250km. Now this information should confirmed with all the buzz going on. Plus, you can only book tickets for April 21 and beyond from March 21 right now.

The below information is from Railcn.net in end-Feb and I'm not sure whether it's proposal or confirmed.

There will be several speed upgrades this year. The first batch happens in April and applies to Ningbo-Shenzhen, Nanjing-Anqing, Nanjing-Wuhan (raise to 250km) and Xi'an-Baoji (raise to 300km).

The second batch happens in July and applies to Guangzhou-Nanning, Chengdu-Mianyang-Leshan, Chongqing-Wanzhou, Changchun-Hunchun, Tianjin-Bazhou, Nanning-Kunming and a few others.
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Old March 19th, 2017, 02:40 PM   #11388
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That's very good news then. Should cut travel times considerably.
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Old March 19th, 2017, 08:40 PM   #11389
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Old March 19th, 2017, 09:28 PM   #11390
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Picturesque aerial view of China's high-speed train passes through the golden rapeseed fields

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Old March 21st, 2017, 01:45 PM   #11391
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Old March 22nd, 2017, 02:51 AM   #11392
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Tunnel boring starts next month for the Wangjing Tunnel on the Beijing - Shenyang HSR line
http://news.ifeng.com/a/20170210/50674492_0.shtml
http://travel.cnr.cn/list/20170210/t...23582889.shtml

An 8-km tunnel will be built on the Beijing - Shenyang HSR line to connect with Beijing's Main railway station. The Wangjing HSR tunnel, will start near the Xinghuo railway station on the outskirt of Beijing, connecting the main station in the city center. This will be the first underground HSR tunnel passing through a city center in China.
Apparently The HSR from Shenzhen North - West Kowloon already has a significantly large sector underneath the city centre of Shenzhen. and from both of the links you provided, not a single word mentioned about "the first underground HSR tunnel passing through a city center in China" and you are misleading the thread.
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Old March 22nd, 2017, 03:00 AM   #11393
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The present tense was for the present planning and construction work, it was not meant to represent a complete whole line. The western segment is under construction between Maoming and Jiangmen (due for completion in 2018) and the geotechnical work has begun for the tunnel beneath the Pearl River and associated preliminary works relating to Airport North station's construction. Full scale construction of the tunnel and trackage, from Shenzhen to Jiangmen, is expected to start in 2018.
However, the termini for this railway in Shenzhen have been re-configured.

There is no more HSR station in Shenzhen Airport North, and Shenzhen North will no longer be the terminal for Shenzhen-Maoming Railway.

Instead, the two major termini for this line will be Shenzhen Airport East and Shenzhen Xili, with a link from Shenzhen Xili to Shenzhen North for trains go pass through towards Xiamen and Ganzhou.
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Old March 22nd, 2017, 07:01 AM   #11394
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Apparently The HSR from Shenzhen North - West Kowloon already has a significantly large sector underneath the city centre of Shenzhen. and from both of the links you provided, not a single word mentioned about "the first underground HSR tunnel passing through a city center in China" and you are misleading the thread.
From the CNR news: 望京隧道是国内首条高铁城市地下盾构隧道,隧道全长为8公里。位于北京五、六环之间,大致沿京承高速公路走向。

I am well aware of the underground station/tunnel on the SZ - Kowloon section and had my own doubts as well, but just trying to be neutral in the translation. maybe I mis-interpreted?

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Old March 22nd, 2017, 07:03 PM   #11395
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From the CNR news: 望京隧道是国内首条高铁城市地下盾构隧道,隧道全长为8公里。位于北京五、六环之间,大致沿京承高速公路走向。

I am well aware of the underground station/tunnel on the SZ - Kowloon section and had my own doubts as well, but just trying to be neutral in the translation. maybe I mis-interpreted?
国内首条高铁城市地下盾构隧道

where is the word for 'city centre'?
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Old March 25th, 2017, 11:30 AM   #11396
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Construction for the new Fuzhou-Xiamen PDL begins

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  The new Fuzhou-Xiamen passenger dedicated line is located in the most developed coastal economic belt in Fujian Province. It begins from Fuzhou in the north, passes Putian and Quanzhou, and goes all the way to Xiamen and Zhangzhou in the south. The line between Fuzhou Station and Zhangzhou Station is 290 km long, with a design speed of 350 km/h. Located in the core area of fast-developing Haixi Economic Zone, Fuzhou-Xiamen Corridor is looking at continually growing demands for both passenger and freight transport, which cannot be satisfied by the transport capacity of the existing Fuzhou-Xiamen Railway. After the completion of the new Fuzhou-Xiamen passenger dedicated line, it will greatly ease the conflict between supply and rapidly-growing demand of passenger and freight transport, and give play to comprehensive benefits of the railway network.
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So, is this an admission that the 200-250km/hr line was a mistake? or an admission that linking some freight spur lines onto it was a mistake?
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Old March 25th, 2017, 12:27 PM   #11397
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Old March 26th, 2017, 07:09 PM   #11398
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So, is this an admission that the 200-250km/hr line was a mistake? or an admission that linking some freight spur lines onto it was a mistake?
I would say the demand is more than they expected. If the corridor can support an older line + 250km/h + 350km/h line that shows the demand. Also Eastern parts of the country have parallel lines like this already due to "intercity" high speed lines next to 8+8 long haul trunk network.

So, yeah maybe not estimating the demand was a mistake. But then increasing the whole plan from 4+4 to 8+8 was a admitting 4+4 was a mistake
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Old March 27th, 2017, 09:17 AM   #11399
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I would say the demand is more than they expected. If the corridor can support an older line + 250km/h + 350km/h line that shows the demand.
Wasn't that a corridor which didn't have an older line?
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Old March 27th, 2017, 02:44 PM   #11400
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Wasn't that a corridor which didn't have an older line?
Yes I believe so, and think that was part of the reason they went mixed use line rather than PDL.

Maybe they will turn the 'old' 250km line into mostly or all freight once a 350kmph PDL is built.
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