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Old August 16th, 2017, 08:17 PM   #11701
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Foshan West high-speed railway station (佛山西站) will open on Friday the 18th of August 2017, after being delayed from the original planned opening date of 01-July, 2017.
You can now buy tickets for the station through 12306.com for G/C/D trains.
Based on the timetable, a few of the trains originate+terminate at this station too (mostly
C trains on the GuangFoZhao Intercity Line).
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Old August 17th, 2017, 10:47 AM   #11702
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Old August 17th, 2017, 06:21 PM   #11703
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Is there a way to find out which train is operated by the new double-deck sleeper cars?
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...postcount=2034

The route will be Shanghai-Beijing on the classic line - however, which trains will have these sleeper cars exactly?
D311/D312,looking forward your new video on Youtube.
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Old August 18th, 2017, 02:15 AM   #11704
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Chinese high-speed rail expansion on the fast track

http://m.railjournal.com/index.php/h...ast-track.html

China is continuing to expand its high-speed rail network as fast as it can to meet people’s growing transport needs and support the country’s industrial development and economic restructuring, as Han Qiao and Fan Xi with China Features explain.

THE 401km high-speed line linking Baoji and Lanzhou in northwest China was scheduled to open in July. It bridges the gap between two existing lines to create a high-speed railway linking Xuzhou in eastern China and Urumqi in the northwest, stretching more than 3000km.

The line is a key part of China’s high-speed railway network, which is based on a grid of four east-west lines and four north-south lines. This grid has now basically been completed, following rapid construction in the past decade, particularly in the last five years. At the end of 2016, China’s high-speed rail network stood at 22,000km, which is more than all the other high-speed lines currently operating outside of China combined and accounts for about 60% of the world’s total high-speed railway length.

The expansion of the network has boosted traffic considerably. Chinese high-speed trains carried 1.18 billion passengers in 2016 compared with 961 million in 2015 which itself was a 237% increase on the figure recorded in 2011. On the busiest day last year, a total of 14.4 million people travelled by high-speed train, setting a new Chinese record.

China’s first high-speed railway opened in 2002 and by 2013, when the Tianjin - Qinhuangdao line was put into service, the network already exceeded 10,000km. It took just 11 years to go from zero to 10,000km.

The rate of construction accelerated during the next three years so that by the time the Zhengzhou - Xuzhou line opened in September 2016, the length of the high-speed network had doubled to exceed 20,000km.

High-speed services are popular in China thanks to the short journey times (Table 1), convenience and punctuality, with 98.8% of trains departing on time in 2015 and 95.4% arriving on time. Sales of tickets through the internet are growing rapidly. In 2015, 60.5% of high-speed train tickets were sold online, and by 2016, the proportion had risen to 68.2%.

Expansion

According to a comprehensive transport plan approved earlier this year by the State Council, China’s cabinet, the high-speed rail network will reach 30,000km by 2020. This will effectively double the grid network already created so that there will be eight east-west and eight north-south lines.

Some of these arteries will be created by plugging gaps in the existing network, for example, between Ganzhou and Chongqing to create a new east-west line from Xiamen to Chengdu, or by extending existing lines, such as from Harbin to Suifenhe and from Qiqihar to Manzhouli to create a new east-west line in northeastern China, or by extending the Guangzhou - Nanning - Baise line to Kunming.

Nevertheless, there will also be some entirely new lines:

Beijing - Hengshui - Fuyang - Hefei/Huanggang - Jiugiang - Ganzhou - Shenzhen - Hong Kong (north-south)

Hohhot - Datong - Zhengzhou - Jingmen - Guilin - Nanning (north-south), and

Baotou and Yinchuan - Xi’an - Chongqing - Guiyang - Nanning - Haikou (north-south).


When this target has been reached, more than 80% of cities with a population of more than one million will be served by high-speed train.

China’s investment in railway fixed assets stood at Yuan 801.5 billion ($US 118bn) in 2016, according to the Ministry of Transport. Fixed asset investment includes capital spent on infrastructure, machinery and other physical assets.

This year fixed asset investment will be at the same level as in 2016, with the government setting a target of Yuan 800bn, according to China Railway Corporation (CRC). China plans to invest Yuan 3.5 trillion in railway construction during the 13th Five-Year Plan covering the period 2016-2020.

Greater effort will be made to extend the high-speed network in the less-developed western regions of China, according to the country’s medium and long-term railway network development plan, which was revised last year.

Although China’s railway has witnessed rapid development in recent years, which has helped to relieve pressure on transport capacity, the network is still insufficient in central and western China, and the government wants to narrow the gap. “Accelerating railway development, particularly investment in the central and western regions, is key for China’s strategy to stabilise growth, adjust economic structure, increase efficient investment and expand consumption,” the plan says.

Besides these major lines, China is planning some short-distance lines to add to the high-speed network by 2020. According to the revised plan, the total length of high-speed lines will be further extended to reach 38,000km by 2025, and 45,000km by 2030.

New train

China’s next-generation Fuxing or Rejuvenation high-speed train made its debut on the country’s busiest high-speed route, the Beijing - Shanghai line, in June. The new train, which has been developed from the widely-used Hexiehao (Harmony) train, has a maximum design speed of 400km/h and can operate at 350km/h. Besides the higher speed, it is more spacious, has a longer design lifecycle, and should be more reliable than previous generations of Chinese high-speed trains.

“Fuxing will be China’s prime high-speed export train in the future,” says Mr He Huawu, CRC’s chief engineer. “The model can be adapted to various situations, including extreme climates.”

China and Indonesia signed an EPC deal in April to build a high-speed rail link between the capital Jakarta and Indonesia’s fourth largest city Bandung. The line, with a maximum design speed of 350km/h, will be operational in three years’ time and will cut the journey time between the two cities from more than three hours to just 40 minutes.

The deal was the first full-package overseas high-speed project using Chinese technology, design, engineering, equipment, management and personnel training.

Mr Huang Qiang, chief researcher of the China Academy of Railway Sciences, says Chinese high-speed railways boast higher cost performance, stable operation, a shorter construction period and good-quality financing arrangements.

China is pushing forward with high-speed railway projects in Russia. CRC, Russian Railways (RZD), Chinese train builder CRRC and a Russian railway company have signed a letter of intent to build a 762km railway between Moscow and Kazan, with a designed maximum speed of 400km/h and an operating speed of 360km/h.

China is also actively seeking high-speed railway deals in Malaysia, Britain and the United States as it looks to export its expertise around the world.
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Old August 18th, 2017, 09:14 PM   #11705
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Thanks for the data!

According to IRJ
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Chinese high-speed trains carried 1.18 billion passengers in 2016 compared with 961 million in 2015 which itself was a 237% increase on the figure recorded in 2011
(so they were 350 million).

Once again, IRJ counted the passengers in 2016 on HSR...:
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1.44 billion of these trips on its high-speed network, which now exceeds 20,000km
But that is impossible: passengers on CRH trains have to be more than passengers on HSR because there are CRH trains that run on conventional lines, but there are no conventional trains running on the HSR.

According to China Today in 2015:
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China’s high-speed rail operating mileage has reached 19,000 km, with 1,800 multiple-unit trains in service that carry 910 million passengers every year.
It seems that it also speaks about travelers on CRH trains.

The study High-Speed Railways in China: A Look at Traffic
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672 million in 2013, or about 39 percent growth per annum since 2008. In 2013, 530 million of those CRH trips took place on passenger dedicated HSR lines
Is complemented by this other study covering 2007 to 2012: Performance and efficiency of high-speed rail systems. From all this I find the following table:

Year / Passengers on HSR / Passengers on CRH trains (millions)
2007 / 86.500 / ????????
2008 / 127.400 / ????????
2009 / 179.580 / ????????
2010 / 290.540 / ????????
2011 / 440.000 / ????????
2012 / 485.500 / ????????
2013 / 530.000 / 672.000
2014 / ???????? / 893.200
2015 / 910.000 or 961.000 / 1,100.000
2016 / 1,180.000 (+30% or +23%) / 1,440.000 (+31%)

Looking at the annual increases seems more reliable the amount of 910 in 2015.


I would like to know if anyone can solve this entanglement and, if possible, with passenger-km data, which are much more important.
2013 / 214.1 / 221.7 (Billions of Passengers-km)
2014 / 282.5
2015 / 386.3
2016

Thanks in advance!

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Old August 21st, 2017, 03:38 PM   #11706
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China's new-generation bullet trains put into operation on Beijing-Tianjin Intercity Railway

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/20..._136542583.htm



Passengers board the Fuxing train at the Tianjin Railway Station in Tianjin, north China, Aug. 21, 2017. China's new-generation bullet trains, the Fuxing, was put into operation on the Beijing-Tianjin Intercity Railway Aug. 21. (Xinhua/Luo Xiaoguang)



















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Old August 21st, 2017, 04:02 PM   #11707
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Beijing-Shanghai high-speed trains to run at 350 km/h in late September

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Old August 22nd, 2017, 04:45 PM   #11708
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Harbin-Mudanjiang high-speed rail one step closer

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2...t_30944517.htm



With a loud explosion on Sunday in the Hufengling Tunnel, 200 kilometers from Harbin, Heilongjiang province, the final section of rock gave way, marking a major step in the construction of a high-speed railway in Northeast China.

The 8,755-meter tunnel on the Harbin-Mudanjiang line is the longest of those that have been built in regions with extremely low temperatures - in this area as low as -40 C.

During its construction, builders dealt with many difficulties, not least the cold.

"It is the most difficult project on the whole line," said Wang Zhiqiang, deputy chief engineer of the tunnel project. "During construction, accidents such as collapses happened easily because it's rich in underground water. To reinforce the tunnel, we put nearly 1,000 steel tubes with cement paste into the soil."

Another big problem was the bitter cold in the mountain area, as the concrete doesn't work below -5 C, he said.

To finish the project on time, the team, which committed to working without interruption, even on the coldest days, built two 4,000-square-meter greenhouses and installed boilers in them to keep the temperature around 10 C, Wang said, adding that the boilers also provided the warm water needed to mix concrete.

It is about 4 km from one greenhouse to the farthest entrance of the tunnel.

"We wrapped the tanks with thick quilts during transportation of the concrete to maintain the temperature," Wang said.

The Harbin-Mudanjiang high-speed rail line, designed for trains running at speeds of up to 250 km per hour between the two cities, will cut travel time to about an hour and 30 minutes from the current five hours.

The line has to withstand temperatures as low as -40 C in winter and as high as 35 C in summer, which poses major challenges both to the builders and to the trains that will later run on the rails.

Construction of the 300-km line began in December 2014 and is expected to be complete by the end of next year, railway authorities in Harbin said.













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Old August 24th, 2017, 09:55 PM   #11709
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Has there been any serious thinking about connecting this Harbin-Mudanjiang line with Russian railways going to Vladivostok? I know it couldn't be a through service due to a different gauge, but even with a connecting train it would be an advance.
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Old August 24th, 2017, 11:19 PM   #11710
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Russian trains can now directly get access to Suifenhe railway station in NE China

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Has there been any serious thinking about connecting this Harbin-Mudanjiang line with Russian railways going to Vladivostok? I know it couldn't be a through service due to a different gauge, but even with a connecting train it would be an advance.
It is connected at Suifenhe station. Harbin-Mudanjiang-Suifenhe-Grodekovo in Russia

http://en.people.cn/n3/2016/0607/c90000-9069339.html

The completion of the new train station at Sufenhe city, bordering China and Russia, makes the 1,520 mm broad gauge railtracks from Russia now connect with the 1,435 mm gauge railroad in China

With the smooth laying and connection of the last group of rail junctions on June 5, the new railway station in Suifenhe city can now welcome trains coming from Russia, meaning that Russian trains running on the broad 1,520 mm gauge rail line can directly get access to the railway station within Chinese borders, Xinhua News Agency reports on June 5.

Located in the southeast of Heilongjiang province, Suifenhe city is the largest local contributor to trade with Russia. The Chinese Eastern Railway which began to be built in 1989 crosses the city and connects northeastern China and the Russian Far East.

However, because of different rail gauges used in the two countries, trains cannot go through directly. A standard 1,435 mm gauge is widely used in China.



In recent years, with continuous growing economic cooperation between China and Russia, the 100-year-old railway station in Suifenhe was difficult to adapt for the new situation. The new railway station in the city began to be built in 2010 and started operation in early 2016.

International passenger trains run between Suifenhe and the city of Grodekovo in Russia every day. Suifenhe has a total population of 2.8 million.
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Old August 25th, 2017, 08:21 PM   #11711
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Construction of China to Thailand High Speed rail to start in October



The Chinese Embassy in Bangkok issued a statement over the weekend, announcing that next month China and Thailand will sign two contracts to start work on the first phase of the much-hyped railway project with actual construction beginning promptly in October.

This follows a meeting on the railway between representatives of the two countries where details were nailed down and a price agreed upon. Last month, the Thai government formally approved the first stage of the project.

The first phase will see the construction of a 253 km high-speed railway between Bangkok and Nakhom Ratchasima. Previously, the project had been estimated to take four years and cost $5.2 billion with Thailand providing the money and most of the materials while China provided the expertise and supervision.

At the same time, the two sides are still working out the particulars of the second phase of the project which will take the rail line an additional 600 km to Nong Khai on the Laos border.



Pan Asia high speed rail likely to be completed around 2030, but major sections and one China to Singapore line could be functioning in 2027

Once both phases are complete, the railway will link up with a China-Laos rail line that is currently under construction, allowing travelers to make the trip between Bangkok and the Lao capital of Vientiane in just four hours, and travel all the way up to Kunming. Further down the line, the hope is that the railway will be extended southwards to Kuala Lumpur and Singapore as part of China’s “One Belt, One Road” initiative aimed at improving trade and transport infrastructure in the region.

Thailand and Malaysia are still in talks about their high speed rail section.

Singapore and Malaysia are already planning a HSR project that would link the Republic to Kuala Lumpur in 90 minutes.

Late 2017: Civil works and tender for private entity overseeing train and rail assets
2018-2025: Construction
Late 2023: International and domestic operators tender
2024-2026: Testing and commissioning
By December 31, 2026: Operation begin

Operations for the Singapore-Kuala Lumpur HSR are targeted to begin by Dec 31, 2026.
https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2017/0...n-october.html
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In 2027, what shall be the trip time Singapore-Beijing?
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In 2027, what shall be the trip time Singapore-Beijing?


Based off distances, at least 24 hours if there even is direct service between Singapore and Beijing.
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Old August 28th, 2017, 02:30 PM   #11714
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Kunming-Yuxi is 32 minutes for 79 km nonstop.
What is the distance and scheduled trip time for Yuxi-Mohan-Vientiane in 2021?
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Old August 29th, 2017, 10:41 AM   #11715
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Comparing closely this map with the list I made on the opening of HSR sections in China, I find these discrepancies, to see if we can all clarify them.


It states that Shanghai-Nanjing IR is at 250 km/h but I think it is at 350 according to sources, it opened on 07/01/2010.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shangh...ercity_Railway
http://www.railwaygazette.com/news/p...ine-opens.html

According to the map, the Loudi-Shaoyang section appears at 250 km/h but I understand that it is part of the Shanghai-Kunming HSR at 350 km/h.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Changs...-Speed_Railway
However at https://www.travelchinaguide.com/chi...il-network.htm say it is part of the Hohhot-Nanning line, one of the new 8 + 8 PDLs.

On the map does not appear the Shenyang-Jinzhou section of the first HSR, but Jinzhou-Qinhuangdao, I do not understand why.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qinhua...-Speed_Railway

There is no new line for 350 km/h inaugurated on 12/26/2011 Guangzhou-Shenzhen, although there is a small blue line with no fill.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guangz...ress_Rail_Link

Hohhot-Baotou (250 km/h, 08/01/2015) seems only the train service, not a new line. The fastest trains take 51 minutes to travel 149 km.
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/m/inner...t_19263810.htm

There are no Yichang-Lichuan-Wanzhou sections (200 km/h, 12/22/2010) on the map, whose Yichang-Lichuan section forms part of the Huhanrong PDL from Shanghai to Chengdu.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yichan...anzhou_Railway

Either Wanzhou-Chongqing (250 km/h, 11/29/2016) whose trains make an average of 163 km/h and appears on the map 8 + 8 PDL.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chongq...ercity_Railway

Thanks in advance.
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Old August 29th, 2017, 10:48 AM   #11716
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CRH services also run on the section between Yulin and Guigang, with through services to Nanning and Guilin (all in Guangxi).
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Yes, but we are talking about infrastructures: new lines for high speed.
The service map with CRH trains is this:



Link to enlarge the map.
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Old August 30th, 2017, 05:55 PM   #11718
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Comparing closely this map with the list I made on the opening of HSR sections in China, I find these discrepancies, to see if we can all clarify them.


It states that Shanghai-Nanjing IR is at 250 km/h but I think it is at 350 according to sources, it opened on 07/01/2010.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shangh...ercity_Railway
http://www.railwaygazette.com/news/p...ine-opens.html

According to the map, the Loudi-Shaoyang section appears at 250 km/h but I understand that it is part of the Shanghai-Kunming HSR at 350 km/h.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Changs...-Speed_Railway
However at https://www.travelchinaguide.com/chi...il-network.htm say it is part of the Hohhot-Nanning line, one of the new 8 + 8 PDLs.

On the map does not appear the Shenyang-Jinzhou section of the first HSR, but Jinzhou-Qinhuangdao, I do not understand why.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qinhua...-Speed_Railway

There is no new line for 350 km/h inaugurated on 12/26/2011 Guangzhou-Shenzhen, although there is a small blue line with no fill.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guangz...ress_Rail_Link

Hohhot-Baotou (250 km/h, 08/01/2015) seems only the train service, not a new line. The fastest trains take 51 minutes to travel 149 km.
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/m/inner...t_19263810.htm

There are no Yichang-Lichuan-Wanzhou sections (200 km/h, 12/22/2010) on the map, whose Yichang-Lichuan section forms part of the Huhanrong PDL from Shanghai to Chengdu.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yichan...anzhou_Railway

Either Wanzhou-Chongqing (250 km/h, 11/29/2016) whose trains make an average of 163 km/h and appears on the map 8 + 8 PDL.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chongq...ercity_Railway

Thanks in advance.

OK,
1.Shanghai-Nanjing IR is a complex line,because considering to link the old station,it has a radius of 5500m,has the ability to run at around 300km/h.not 250 or 350.
350km/h HS line has a radius of 7000-12000m,mostly is 9000-12000m,and 250km/h line is 3500-5500m.
Actually 350km/h HS line can easily run over 400km/h,this is the reason why during the test,the CIT train can run at over 400km/h.

2.Loudi-Shaoyang section is 160-200km/h,it is a branch of Shanghai-kunming.
3.Hohhot-Baotou section,upgraded conventional line,some part has the ability to run 250km/h,not a truly HSR.
4.you are right

so this map isn't a very accurate map
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Old August 31st, 2017, 11:08 AM   #11719
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Thank you very much for the help!
Seen on a map, it does seem that the 88 km Loudi (and Loudi South)-Shaoyang (not Shaoyang North) section (yellow line) does not belong to the Shanghai-Kunming PDL but to Hohhot-Nanning, but I did not find any reference to it being an HSR.


Comparing my own list with that of the UIC and with the map, a new list results.

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Sections placed in service in chronological order

Map of PDL according to XIII Five-Year Plan:


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Sections placed in service:
01– Dalian-Beijing, Yingkou-Panjin, Hangzhou-Shenzhen y Maoming-Zhanjiang: 3.287 km
02– Harbin-Shenyang y Beijing-Zhuhai: 2.830 km
03– Jiujiang-Nanchang, Hefei-Fuzhou, Nanchang-Fuzhou, Shenzhen-Futian y Yongtai-Putian: 1.557 km
04– Beijing-Shanghái, Bengbu-Hefei y Nanjing-Hangzhou: 1.698 km
05– Jiaozuo-Zhengzhou y Yongzhou-Nanning: 645 km
06– Taiyuan-Xi’an y Jiangyou-Chengdú: 751 km
07– Nanning-Beihai y Hainan Circle: 858 km
08– Chengdú-Emeishan y Guiyang-Guangzhou: 1.019 km
09– Qingdao-Jinan y Shijiazhuang-Taiyuan: 552 km
10– Xuzhou-Urumqi: 3.145 km
11– Shanghái-Kunming: 2.254 km
12– Shanghái-Chengdú; Wanzhou–Chongqing y 2ª línea: Nanjing-Anqing y Yangxin-Xiaogan: 2.656 km
13– Harbin-Qiqihar: 281 km
14– Ulanqab-Hohhot: 126 km
15– Xiamen-Ganzhou: 443 km
16– Guangzhou-Kunming: 1.286 km
Liaison, metropolitan and other sections: 2.324 km

Notes on chronological list: there are some metropolitan lines (I write Metro in the list) that are considered metropolitan PDL by Railway Gazette (I will also put the Jing-Jin-Ji plan), although I understand that others consider that they are not HSR, but I prefer that it was before something is lacking. The text “no en Mapa” means that it does not appear in the mentioned map of speeds. The text (no UIC) means that it is not on your list. The dates have the format day / month / year. I am sorry!

Sections placed in service / Maximum speed (km/h) / Date / Length (Km) / PDL line or indications about their situation





I wait for your comments if any notes are incorrect.

Thanks in advance!

I also did this table where the first column represents the km of HSR in service at December 31 of each year, and the rest are the km of HSR put into service in each year, first the total and then according to speeds.
It can be verified that the sections at 350 had their apogee in 2012 while at 250 it was in 2014. 2016 and 2017 are years with very few openings due, I believe, to the change in the price and speed policy of April 2011.
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