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Old November 3rd, 2017, 11:50 PM   #11881
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The news is in Chinese, translation below

Lanzhou - Urumqi HSR Freight Service begins from 1 November, 2017
http://auto.sina.com.cn/j_kandian.d....02&subch=bauto



On 1st November, 2017, first HSR train with carriages dedicated for freight, carrying 199 parcels / 2384kg of goods, commences operation between Lanzhou and Urumqi. This is the first time Railway authorities utilize pre-reserved carriages for freight purposes. In 2017, Lanzhou Railway Bureau and CRHExpress explore deeper cooperation, utilize trains with lower occupancy rate D2701 & 2711 for freight purposes to ship the "same day, next morning, next day delivery" orders. Primary goods accepted for shipping are: commercial documents, online shopping orders, bio medicine, fresh food produce, etc. According to info, currently CRH Express service is available at over 500 Chinese cities.

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While this might be far from reaching needed scale to expand the service internationally, it's literally a regular HSR passenger train with empty carriages reserved for freight, and no bulky shipment is accepted at the moment, HSR freight is being explored by CRHExpress. If, say CRHExpress is successful in this exploration and a business model is established, they could well promote the service along the China-EU route.

I do see potential for this solution because this is in line with China's long term strategy to move up the value chain and produce products with higher added value. A report indicated the primary goods China exported last year was machinery (whole and parts) and electronic products. It makes sense to create a mid-market freight solution for these products.

In a Chinese forum rumors from some "insiders" say a container designed for HSR trains is on the drawing table. Also, to speed up loading/unloading of shipments at each stop, ideas to connect two HSR trains (if future technology permits, 3 trains) together, one for passenger and another for freight, so trains can easily be decoupled/coupled at origin/destination. But this is under the assumption the shipments are only point-to-point because the whole freight train needs to be decoupled. While it sounds interesting the practicality is yet to be tested one day.
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Old November 4th, 2017, 02:04 AM   #11882
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Not sure how they came up with the 20-hour estimate, but More detailed info about the HSR freight between China and EU countries

A Trip From China To Berlin May Take Only 20 Hours, Thanks To Russian-Chinese Rail Project
https://caspiannews.com/news-detail/...-2017-10-27-0/

Moscow and Beijing are considering building a high-speed freight and passenger rail network that, if constructed, will become the world’s largest railway project. The line, expected to be completed by 2026, would span all of Eurasia and bridge China and Europe by just 20 hours.

The 9,447 km (5,870 mi) line would start in Urumqi in northwestern China; pass through Astana, Kazakhstan; Moscow; Minsk, Belarus; and Berlin.

“The Eurasia high-speed railway initiative is not a one-off project, but the continuation of the Chinese ‘One Belt, One Road’ strategy,” Russian transportation expert Sergey Lomanov told Caspian News, referring to China’s mega-transportation project of overland and sea lanes that aims to connect all corners of the world and speed up global commerce.
Russia’s Ministry of Transport offered to undertake a feasibility study, and pegged the project’s total cost to around $121 billion. Nearly $62 billion of that amount would be needed for the Russian segment, which will pass from Krasnoye station in Russia’s Smolensk region, lying along Russia’s border with Belarus, to Zolotaya Sopka station in the Chelyabinsk region, near Russia’s border with Kazakhstan.

The Russian proposal has been submitted to the governments of Belarus, Kazakhstan and China for consideration. The chief engineer of Belarusian Railways, Valeriy Shubaderov, confirmed that Russian Railways has asked Belarusian Railways to join in the feasibility study.

Russian Railways has already signed a document with Kazakhstan’s Temir Zholy national railway company for the joint development of the Trans-Eurasian corridors, setting up joint ventures that would promote new transportation and logistics services. The railways of Germany, Poland, Belarus, Russia, Kazakhstan and China also signed an agreement on the creation of a high-speed transport corridor Eurasia, connecting Berlin in Europe and Urumqi in China.

Russian Railways is planning to start the construction of the high-speed railway for passenger traffic in 2018 and complete it by 2023. Freight transportation services are not expected to begin until 2026. By 2050, officials forecast that the line will move 20 million tons of cargo and almost 37 million passengers annually.

The project’s developers estimate that the line will result in 10 to 15 percent of the goods traded between China and the European Union to travel overland. Currently that figure is only two percent, and projected to reach as high as 3.5 percent by this year’s end. Goods shipped by sea from China to Europe currently require at least a month.

“The Eurasia high-speed railway is to compete against cargo transportation by air, which is costly, and often customers cannot afford it. Customers expect to receive the goods they order online, for example, within three to five days,” Sergey Lomanov said, explaining how the rise of e-commerce over the past decade has impacted the assessment for building a high-speed railway.
E-commerce between the countries of Asia and Europe, including Russia, has grown at double-digit rates annually. By 2020, the volume of e-commerce is expected to be over $4 trillion worldwide, according to Lomanov.

“The high-speed railway will deliver cargo at a speed of up to 300 km/h and is the best option for the transporting of e-commerce goods, whose volumes have recently growing at an impressive rate. In the long term, this will allow for deliveries going from China to Europe to take, on average, over three days,” Lomanov said.

While China, Kazakhstan and Belarus are reviewing the details, Russia has pushed ahead with its portion.

Work has already begun on the Moscow-Kazan segment, which will measure 770 km (479 mi) once its complete and be one of the biggest infrastructure projects ever undertaken in the country. Expected to serve 25 million Russians throughout seven regions, the route will cut travel time between the two Russian cities from 14 to 3.5 hours.

The Moscow-Kazan segment alone is estimated to cost around $16.9 billion, and will get 60 percent of its investment from Russian Railways. The remaining 40 percent is to be financed through foreign investments, including from China, which is providing Russia with a loan for about $6.2 billion, according to reports by TASS news agency.

According to Russian Railways, a number of institutions can provide funding for the Eurasia project, including the Silk Road Fund, BRICS Bank (The New Development Bank), Eurasian Development Bank, Russian Direct Investment Fund (RDIF) and the Russian-Chinese Investment Fund.
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Old November 4th, 2017, 10:45 AM   #11883
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Lunan HSR in Shandong province
http://news.xinhuanet.com/photo/2017...1121863235.htm


HSR bridge on the Chengdu-Guizhou line
http://news.gog.cn/system/2017/11/02/016192863.shtml


Zhengzhou-Hefei HSR
http://news.takungpao.com/special/cp...-10/62438.html


Fixing train at 350km/h cruising speed
http://js.china.com.cn/information/z...761397684.html


New Fuxing Train
http://js.china.com.cn/information/z...761397684.html
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Old November 4th, 2017, 11:06 AM   #11884
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http://www.china.com.cn/newphoto/201...41714901_5.htm
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Old November 4th, 2017, 12:51 PM   #11885
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Not sure how they came up with the 20-hour estimate, but More detailed info about the HSR freight between China and EU countries

A Trip From China To Berlin May Take Only 20 Hours, Thanks To Russian-Chinese Rail Project
https://caspiannews.com/news-detail/...-2017-10-27-0/

Moscow and Beijing are considering building a high-speed freight and passenger rail network that, if constructed, will become the world’s largest railway project. The line, expected to be completed by 2026, would span all of Eurasia and bridge China and Europe by just 20 hours.

The 9,447 km (5,870 mi) line would start in Urumqi in northwestern China; pass through Astana, Kazakhstan; Moscow; Minsk, Belarus; and Berlin.
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Well, 9,447 km in 20 hours would have an average of almost 500 km/h.
Nor do they seem to take into account the two gauge changes because Russian HSRs will be made in their gauge.

The carrying of packages in high speed trains has already been done in China:
Singles Day bargains shipped to shoppers on bullet trains


In case it serves as an aid, in Spain in mid-2018 the new freight wagons will be put out for tender with a change in gauge, although this is not the issue here because its speed will be about 100 km/h.
What would serve would be the current passenger trains (CAF and Talgo) with change in gauge (including the locomotives) that circulate from 2006 to 250 km/h and will circulate to 320 in 2020 (the Talgo Avril G3 series 122).
More details on the subject in your Thread.

It is also talking about the issue of freight transport in high-speed trains in the Thread CHINA | High Speed Trainsets where the French case has been commented, with La Poste TGV trains that transported more than 250 containers with 61 tons at 270 km/h.
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Old November 4th, 2017, 07:29 PM   #11886
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A quick trip on the Fuxing train G6 between Shanghai Hongqiao and Nanjing South Railway Station:


Shanghai Hongqiao Railway Station:







Our trainset is the CR400AF-2004, owned by the Beijing Railway Bureau:







Jinghu High Speed Railway:







Our indicated speed:





GPS speed:





First Class cabin:





Complementary snack service in First Class:





First Class seat:





Second Class cabin:





Restaurant Car:







Conductor cabin:





Chinese-style toilet:





Train magazine:





Reaching Nanjing (this the connecting line between the Shanghai-Nanjing PDL and the Jinghu High Speed Railway):





Reaching Nanjing South Railway Station:





Nanjing South Railway Station:







Full video report:





Enjoy!
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Old November 4th, 2017, 08:20 PM   #11887
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Daxing airport expressway ( ~27km under construction )

http://finance.qianlong.com/2017/0221/1422802.shtml
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Daxing airport expressway ( ~27km under construction )

http://finance.qianlong.com/2017/0221/1422802.shtml
I do not know Chinese. Is the plan connect the airport with 2 high speed rail lines as depicted in the picture?
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Old November 4th, 2017, 11:04 PM   #11889
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I do not know Chinese. Is the plan connect the airport with 2 high speed rail lines as depicted in the picture?
Very likely. They are building the "intercity" line and the "Beijing–Hong Kong" ( does not go through Guangzhou) line (1of 8 vertical lines).

Construction of the Beijing-Bazhou high-speed rail line, a key link for the capital's new airport and Xiongan New Area, started on Sunday, the China Railway Group announced. ...
The new rail line is also a key part of the Beijing-Kowloon route connecting Beijing and Hong Kong Special Administrative Region. By 2019, Hong Kong and Xiongan will be linked by the new railway.
- Xinhua | Updated: 2017-05-22 10:03 ( http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/busines...t_29438413.htm )
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Old November 6th, 2017, 10:55 AM   #11890
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Beijing: Jing-Jin-Ji plan
China’s National Development and Reform Commission (NDRC) gave the go-ahead for a Yuan 247bn ($US 36bn) project to improve 1,104 km rail links between Beijing and surrounding towns and cities due to be completed by 2020.
The project encompasses nine lines:

Km Line
160 Capital Airport-Daxing New Airport via Tongzhou, Yizhuang and Langfang (09/2019) (NE → E→ SE → S) (preview for 09/2019)
078 Beijing-Bazhou (09/2019) (→ S) (preview for 09/2019)
149 Beijing-Tangshan (→ E) (preview for 2020)
098 Beijing-Tianjin Binhai New Area (→ SE) (preview for 2020)
067 Chongli Railway (→ NW) (preview for 2020)
065 Lanfang-Zhuozhou (SE → SW)
088 Ring Line Langfang-Pinggu section (NE → SE)
106 Gu’an-Baoding (S → SW)
293 Beijing-Shijiazhuang (→ S)


The nine lines form the first phase of an eventual 3,453 km network serving a conurbation of around 130 million inhabitants.
There is also the Tianjin-Yujiapu line (45 km) inaugurated on 09/20/2015 although it is for 350 km/h.


The route of the first one seems quite strange, but it is what they explain here: Go-ahead for $US 36bn Beijing Intercity Rail Network IRJ.
The Yizhuang-Daxing New Airport and Beijing South-Daxing New Airport links are not mentioned.
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Old November 7th, 2017, 04:23 PM   #11891
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HSR bridge on the Hankou-Shiyan HSR built in sections and turned into alignment
http://news.ifeng.com/a/20171107/53053438_0.shtml#p=1








Fuyang HSR bridge along the Shangqiu-Hangzhou HSR line built in sections and turned into alignment
http://ah.ifeng.com/a/20171107/6128073_0.shtml



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Track laying along the Jinan-Qingdao line, expected to commence operation end of 2018
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The news is in Chinese, translation below

Lanzhou - Urumqi HSR Freight Service begins from 1 November, 2017
http://auto.sina.com.cn/j_kandian.d....02&subch=bauto



On 1st November, 2017, first HSR train with carriages dedicated for freight, carrying 199 parcels / 2384kg of goods, commences operation between Lanzhou and Urumqi. This is the first time Railway authorities utilize pre-reserved carriages for freight purposes. In 2017, Lanzhou Railway Bureau and CRHExpress explore deeper cooperation, utilize trains with lower occupancy rate D2701 & 2711 for freight purposes to ship the "same day, next morning, next day delivery" orders. Primary goods accepted for shipping are: commercial documents, online shopping orders, bio medicine, fresh food produce, etc. According to info, currently CRH Express service is available at over 500 Chinese cities.

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While this might be far from reaching needed scale to expand the service internationally, it's literally a regular HSR passenger train with empty carriages reserved for freight, and no bulky shipment is accepted at the moment, HSR freight is being explored by CRHExpress. If, say CRHExpress is successful in this exploration and a business model is established, they could well promote the service along the China-EU route.

I do see potential for this solution because this is in line with China's long term strategy to move up the value chain and produce products with higher added value. A report indicated the primary goods China exported last year was machinery (whole and parts) and electronic products. It makes sense to create a mid-market freight solution for these products.

In a Chinese forum rumors from some "insiders" say a container designed for HSR trains is on the drawing table. Also, to speed up loading/unloading of shipments at each stop, ideas to connect two HSR trains (if future technology permits, 3 trains) together, one for passenger and another for freight, so trains can easily be decoupled/coupled at origin/destination. But this is under the assumption the shipments are only point-to-point because the whole freight train needs to be decoupled. While it sounds interesting the practicality is yet to be tested one day.
Can we see more photos of the girl in the photo? Thanks.
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Old November 8th, 2017, 05:22 PM   #11894
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Harbin-Vladivostok high-speed rail project discussed
http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1073677.shtml

The planned high-speed railway link connecting China's northeastern region and Russia will play a crucial role in boosting bilateral trade as well as international exchange, an expert noted over the weekend.

The comment came after reports said that Alexandr Galushka, minister for the Development of the Russian Far East, and China Railway Oriental International Construction Corp General Manager Cai Zemin discussed the construction of the Harbin-Vladivostok high-speed railway on Friday in Beijing.

According to a statement from the Russian ministry, the rail project will involve a 380-kilometer line connecting Mudanjiang in Northeast China's Heilongjiang Province with Vladivostok in Russia. The speed will be 250 kilometers per hour and the total cost may reach $19 billion, Russian news agency Sputnik reported on Friday.

The railway link will undoubtedly benefit both sides, said Lü Chao, a research fellow at the Liaoning Academy of Social Sciences. "The railway line will help carry out the Belt and Road initiative by connecting China, Russia and the European market," he said.

Considering that Russia's Primorsky Territory in the country's Far East and Harbin in Northeast China's Heilongjiang Province both have rich tourism resources, the railway link will also contribute to the two areas' tourism industries, Lü said.

Domestic news site guancha.cn reported on Saturday that the comprehensive entertainment and scenic spots in Primorsky can be a major attraction of the railway line.

Cai said more than 65 million people live in the Chinese border region, and this will create enough demand to yield good returns, according to the report.

At present, China and Russia are actively cooperating in the high-speed railway sector.

Premier Li Keqiang and Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev signed a joint communiqué on Wednesday, stating that the two sides should enhance cooperation on high-speed rail, in terms of technology, equipment and investment, so that a date can be set to initiate the Moscow-Kazan high-speed rail project, the Xinhua News Agency reported.

In October, Sputnik reported that the Russian side was negotiating with China about establishing a joint venture to manufacture bullet trains in Moscow, and China's rail transit equipment manufacturer CRRC Corp is drawing up a related document.

However, Zhao Jian, a professor at Beijing Jiaotong University, told the Global Times on Sunday that investment returns from the China-Russia high-speed passenger trains cannot be guaranteed because of the relatively low population in the border regions and the long distance between the two countries.

"But it is profitable to build mixed high-speed trains transporting both passengers and cargo, which run at a speed of 160 kilometers per hour," he said.

China has been Russia's largest trade partner for the last seven years, Xinhua said in July.
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^ "Zhengpantai tunnel construction at Beijing-Zhangjiakou HSR"

In Beijing (6km) ...

Nov 8, 2017



Likely not all high speed rail tunnel projects but a lot of rail tunnels are under construction ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...nnels_in_China
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The nine lines form the first phase of an eventual 3,453 km network serving a conurbation of around 130 million inhabitants.
There is also the Tianjin-Yujiapu line (45 km) inaugurated on 09/20/2015 although it is for 350 km/h.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN5NcqRxcdI at 12'50" onwards shows some intent that Baodi will be a hub/interchange station. Does this imply a line between Baodi and Tongzhou or Yizhuang?
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Xi'an-Chengdu high speed railway enters inspection phase

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/20..._136749459.htm


An electric multiple unit (EMU) train stops at Yangxian West Railway Station in Yangxian, northwest China's Shaanxi Province, Nov. 13, 2017. The Xi'an-Chengdu high speed railway enters the inspection phase on Monday. The designed speed for the railway is 250 kilometers per hour. It is estimated to be put in operation before the end of 2017, which will shorten the single journey time between Xi'an and Chengdu from 16 hours to 3 hours. (Xinhua/Tang Zhenjiang)









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Nov 8, 2017



Likely not all high speed rail tunnel projects but a lot of rail tunnels are under construction ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...nnels_in_China
This looks impressive. Are the boring machines made in China too?
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This looks impressive. Are the boring machines made in China too?
Made by GuangZhou Herrenknecht Tunnelling Machinery Co.Ltd. in China.
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