daily menu » rate the banner | guess the city | one on oneforums map | privacy policy | DMCA | news magazine | posting guidelines

Go Back   SkyscraperCity > Infrastructure and Mobility Forums > Railways

Railways (Inter)national commuter and freight trains



Global Announcement

As a general reminder, please respect others and respect copyrights. Go here to familiarize yourself with our posting policy.


Reply

 
Thread Tools
Old March 16th, 2010, 10:29 AM   #1281
zergcerebrates
Registered User
 
zergcerebrates's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Guam,Los Angeles
Posts: 2,287
Likes (Received): 62

Wow, this is nuts.
zergcerebrates no está en línea   Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
Old March 16th, 2010, 12:14 PM   #1282
jayOOfoshO
Registered User
 
jayOOfoshO's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 3,746
Likes (Received): 115

damn
jayOOfoshO no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old March 17th, 2010, 12:22 AM   #1283
Nozumi 300
Registered User
 
Nozumi 300's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 222
Likes (Received): 6

WOW....
Can't wait to see it completed and running.
Nozumi 300 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old March 17th, 2010, 12:32 AM   #1284
Cherguevara
Registered User
 
Cherguevara's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 9,887
Likes (Received): 3547

I don't understand why they're going into Qinghai to get from Lanzhou to Urumqi? Is there a reason the trains won't be able to pass through the Hexi corridor?
Cherguevara no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old March 17th, 2010, 12:59 AM   #1285
Scion
Registered User
 
Scion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Hong Kong, Shenzhen
Posts: 3,602
Likes (Received): 4668

This line includes a stop at Xining, provincial capital for Qinghai
Scion no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old March 17th, 2010, 01:10 AM   #1286
derekf1974
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 60
Likes (Received): 1

Cool, another 350km/h line.
derekf1974 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old March 17th, 2010, 04:31 AM   #1287
ironalbo
Un chileno más
 
ironalbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Santiago
Posts: 339
Likes (Received): 62

more pics??
ironalbo está en línea ahora   Reply With Quote
Old March 17th, 2010, 04:45 AM   #1288
yaohua2000
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 453
Likes (Received): 7

Quote:
Originally Posted by ironalbo View Post
more pics??
It's just beginning, more pics will come in the next five years.
yaohua2000 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old March 17th, 2010, 08:35 AM   #1289
foxmulder
Registered User
 
foxmulder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,135
Likes (Received): 382

Quote:
Originally Posted by jayOOfoshO View Post
damn
+1

I've never thought a 350km/h line to Urumqi. This will be even more significant engineering feat than Lhasa line.
foxmulder no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old March 17th, 2010, 11:54 AM   #1290
1772
Registered User
 
1772's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 2,573
Likes (Received): 1439

I bet this thread was great, to bad I missed it.
If someone would retreave all the pics, it would be much appreciated.
1772 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old March 17th, 2010, 05:56 PM   #1291
UD2
A very cool person
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Toronto
Posts: 1,294
Likes (Received): 31



... are we sure this will be 350? and not 200?
__________________
"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired, signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed" - President Eisenhower
UD2 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old March 17th, 2010, 10:03 PM   #1292
foxmulder
Registered User
 
foxmulder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,135
Likes (Received): 382

It has 7000m min radius for turns, so it might be very well 350km/h. But it is not certain, I guess.
foxmulder no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old March 18th, 2010, 05:48 AM   #1293
yaohua2000
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 453
Likes (Received): 7

New Xining Station

New Xining Station





yaohua2000 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old March 18th, 2010, 05:49 AM   #1294
yaohua2000
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 453
Likes (Received): 7

Fourth-grade-leveling survey against strong wind (July 2009)

Fourth-grade-leveling survey against strong wind (July 2009)







yaohua2000 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old March 18th, 2010, 07:19 AM   #1295
foxmulder
Registered User
 
foxmulder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,135
Likes (Received): 382

h great pictures yaohua, thanks. Some of them are funny.

Also another railport, cool
foxmulder no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old March 19th, 2010, 01:13 PM   #1296
zergcerebrates
Registered User
 
zergcerebrates's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Guam,Los Angeles
Posts: 2,287
Likes (Received): 62

^ Search on other Chinese railway update threads, theres like 4 or 5 of them showing new stations.
zergcerebrates no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old March 26th, 2010, 05:37 AM   #1297
foxmulder
Registered User
 
foxmulder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,135
Likes (Received): 382

Did they finish construction of Guangzhou South Railway Station? I think it suppose to finish soon.
foxmulder no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old March 26th, 2010, 07:30 AM   #1298
Scion
Registered User
 
Scion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Hong Kong, Shenzhen
Posts: 3,602
Likes (Received): 4668

Guangzhou South opened 2 months ago. Look at page 15 post #292
Scion no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old March 27th, 2010, 06:44 AM   #1299
foxmulder
Registered User
 
foxmulder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,135
Likes (Received): 382

Yeah, I know but it was not completed completely back then.
foxmulder no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old April 12th, 2010, 06:10 AM   #1300
vmenkov
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 1
Likes (Received): 0

Interline service between HSR lines in China?

Last year, I had a chance to take a fast train on the new HSR line from Shanghai to Wuhan (Hakou, actually) via Hefei. According to www.tielu.org, There are now several trains a day on this route, making it from Shanghai to the Hankou Station or the new Wuhan Station (one train a day) in 5-6 hours.

In the late 2009, the new high-speed line from Wuhan to Guangzhou opened; the same schedule site shows literally dozens of trains on this line daily, with travel times of 3-4 hours.

Considering that the two new lines directly connect (at the new Wuhan Station), it would seem so reasonable for China Railways to run some direct trains from Shanghai to Guangzhou on these new lines via Nanjing, Hefei, and Wuhan; the total travel time should be within 9-10 hours, so they could have a very nice overnight service there, and a feasible day train as well. However, I don't see any service like this listed on www.tielu.org; instead, the fastest listed trains ( http://train.tielu.org/Search/T99A.html ) take over 15 hours, traveling on conventional rail lines to the south of Wuhan.

While it feasible for a passenger to buy a HSR ticket from Shanghai to Wuhan station (there is just one train a day to there, though), and then from there to a HSR train to Guangzhou, having to transfer sort of defeats the idea of "high-speed". I am curious whether there is any particular reasons why they aren't introducing any direct service. Are there any fundamental technical reasons not to do so (some kind of incompatibility of equipment between the two lines? having to close the line for maintenance every night?) or is it more of a marketing thing (they figure that the price/time ratio will make such service incompetitive with faster planes and cheaper conventional trains?)? Or is it simply the case of them wanting to first test the Wuhan-Guangzhou line in a comparatively "limited" service mode before using it for more versatile service? Or a capacity issue (not enough HS train sets available yet?)

A similar question can be asked about the feasibility of direct service between HSR and "regular" (but still quite fast) lines - something that, I believe, TGV does in France. That is, considering how many trains run daily on the new high-speed WuGuang line, I'd imagine that some of them could continue from Guangzhou on "regular" tracks to Shenzhen, or from Wuhan to Zhengzhou (and then again on a high-speed line to Xi'an), thus providing fast direct service Wuhan-Shenzhen or Guangzhou-Xi'an. Is this again some kind of technical compatibility issue: can the trainset designed for the WuGuang HSR actually travel on (good) "regular" tracks (at the "regular" speed or say 100-150 km/h), or that had better be avoided to avoid unnecessary wear or tear? I'd imagine there could be a financial reason too, i.e. making the HSR train run those last several kilometers with a comparatively low speed may be considered an inefficient use of valuable equipment...

Any links to actual news articles / technical reports discussing the issue (in English or Chinese or another language) would be appreciated.
vmenkov no está en línea   Reply With Quote


Reply

Tags
china, high speed rail

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Related topics on SkyscraperCity


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 08:50 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2018 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2018 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

SkyscraperCity ☆ In Urbanity We trust ☆ about us | privacy policy | DMCA policy

tech management by Sysprosium