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Old July 13th, 2010, 09:12 PM   #1361
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This map had been there for two years. Lots of things has been changed since then.
Like what?
Do you have any of those changes documented somewhere? Apart from that tv shot you have based you map on. Which, btw as I have explained can't be taken as a plan per se.
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Old July 13th, 2010, 09:15 PM   #1362
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Like what?
Do you have any of those changes documented somewhere? Apart from that tv shot you have based you map on. Which, btw as I have explained can't be taken as a plan per se.
Lots of info out there at Google. I suppose you read Chinese, otherwise, don't argue.
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Old July 13th, 2010, 10:32 PM   #1363
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Old July 25th, 2010, 05:27 PM   #1364
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GREAT!!!!!!!!!
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Old July 26th, 2010, 07:23 AM   #1365
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Looks very impressive, and it appears not only the trains are moving fast in China. The whole country is :-)

Just one question: How userfriendly is the system to foreigners who can't read chinese? Is information on departure times/tracks also displayed in English at the stations?
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Old July 26th, 2010, 01:22 PM   #1366
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A foreigner who can't read a word in Chinese shouldn't have problems at the new stations though outside big cities it's not so well organised. But I think it most cases the system can be called foreign-userfriendly.
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Old July 26th, 2010, 01:33 PM   #1367
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Chinese rail stations are friendly to Japanese foreigners who can't read Chinese. Hope you are among them.
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Old July 27th, 2010, 03:14 AM   #1368
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A foreigner can survive, but most things are in Chinese only, including the automated ticket machines, the train schedule, and the ticket sellers (most only speak Chinese).
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Old July 27th, 2010, 11:54 AM   #1369
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Just point and nod.
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Old July 31st, 2010, 04:00 AM   #1370
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I was in China last year and we used the cheapest trains and tickets. Just use a translation book for characters like '2th class' and write it on a paper along with the name of your destination and the date and you will be fine.
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Old July 31st, 2010, 08:59 PM   #1371
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I don't understand why don't they build directly with Maglev technology... (all infrastructures are ex novo...)
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Old August 1st, 2010, 02:40 PM   #1372
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Its unproven technology, it has not been successfully deployed as a high speed intercity transport solution anywhere in the world and there are fewer players to contract in to build it. It is not yet mature and sensibly China doesn't want to hang around until it is. These are just general points about maglev, which if any directly apply here I'm not sure.
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Old August 1st, 2010, 04:56 PM   #1373
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I don't understand why don't they build directly with Maglev technology... (all infrastructures are ex novo...)
My thoughts:

1) Current maglev technology do not have the capacity required.

2) Expensive.
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Old August 6th, 2010, 03:06 PM   #1374
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China to build trains that go 1000 kph

http://english.eastday.com/e/100803/u1a5369373.html

Laboratory working on train to run at 1,000kph

2010-08-03

China is developing a vactrain which will travel at 1,000 kilometers per hour through maglev lines in tubes underground.

According to a national laboratory specializing in the study of traction, the technology could be in daily use in the next 10 years.

The laboratory at Southwest Jiaotong University told Beijing-based Legal Evening News that it was working on a prototype with an average speed of 500 to 600kph.

A much smaller model train traveling at 600 to 1,000kph in a vacuum tube will be introduced in two or three years, it added.

Shen Zhiyun, a member of Chinese Academy of Sciences and one of the lab's research fellows, said a maglev train could ride at astonishing speeds in an airless tube because of zero air friction.

Shen's colleague Zhang Yaoping is a friend of Daryl Oster, who holds the United States patent for Evacuated Tube Transport (ETT) technology.

Zhang, Shen and maglev expert Wang Jiasu launched their study in 2002. Oster came to China the same year to join the university's ETT institute.

Shen said the US proposal was for a highly evacuated tunnel. The Chinese version reduces air pressure, making the tunnel easier and cheaper to build.

The tunnel would cost 10 to 20 million yuan (US$2.95 million) more than the current high speed railway for each kilometer but the train would be able to travel at 600kph, Shen estimated.
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Old August 6th, 2010, 03:12 PM   #1375
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It's basically the TransAtlantic tube train or the Swiss tube. What's new?
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Old August 6th, 2010, 05:04 PM   #1376
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It's basically the TransAtlantic tube train or the Swiss tube. What's new?
The Transatlantic Tunnel as well as Swissmetro are pie in the sky.

China is big enough and its economy is growing strong enough to really build this thing...
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Old August 6th, 2010, 08:09 PM   #1377
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yet another idea they stole,

but! good on them, make it work

i just love the name "Legal" Evening News
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Old August 6th, 2010, 09:53 PM   #1378
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Laboratory working on train to run at 1,000kph

2010-08-03

China is developing a vactrain which will travel at 1,000 kilometers per hour through maglev lines in tubes underground.Shen Zhiyun, a member of Chinese Academy of Sciences and one of the lab's research fellows, said a maglev train could ride at astonishing speeds in an airless tube because of zero air friction.
Sounds similar to Japan's JR-Maglev..using magnetic levitation to increase speed of the train. Just slightly different.

I wouldn't say they copied the idea. In fact, I'd love to see a train like this in the US but that would take a decade after suggestion to get funding started, then another few decades to actually get it done .
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Old August 7th, 2010, 01:01 AM   #1379
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I would say germans built Sanghai line, so Chinese will be able to adopt it's tehnology.
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Old August 7th, 2010, 01:01 AM   #1380
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yet another idea they stole,

but! good on them, make it work

i just love the name "Legal" Evening News
You can't put price tags on ideas at this level... doesn't count as an IP. Anyone can say "I invented a superstring hyperspace warp drive!!!" without any working demonstration model and then claim that he invented it. Actually building one is where the credit goes. Let's see if they can build it.
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