Somali Politics | Siyaasada Soomaalida

[The Nomadic Warrior]

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Thoughts,

[Yoniii]

First thought, this picture is bigger than the area TFG controls.

[Naija Attitude]

I don't get it. What is this about?

[The Nomadic Warrior]

Originally Posted by Naija Attitude

I don't get it. What is this about?

I don’t know how any clearer I could possible make the thread title. It speaks for itself

[abesha]

That pic is enormous.

What's the difference between H and X when writing in Somali? It seems like it's the same sound to me.

[Muttie]

The pic is bigger than earth itself.

[The Nomadic Warrior]

Sorry about the picture, that is the only size available

[abesha]

Here's a resized version



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[Ras Siyan]

Is it me or the areas controlled by the TFG reduced and those under Al Shabab increased in size?

Somaliland seems to have "re" gained control of most of Sool and Sanaag regions.

[ja'far]

Originally Posted by abesha

That pic is enormous.

What's the difference between H and X when writing in Somali? It seems like it's the same sound to me.

X is for somali.

And h is for English.

[Ras Siyan]

Originally Posted by ja'far

X is for somali.

And h is for English.

Are you kidding Ja'far?! Both letters are used in Somali but have different pronunciations (though close).

"X" is for the prounounciation of Hajj, Halal, Hussein...

While "H" is pronounced like the English "H"


Abesha, even Tigrinya has that X sound. Yeha is pronounced that way.

[abesha]

Originally Posted by Ras Siyan

Are you kidding Ja'far?! Both letters are used in Somali but have different pronunciations (though close).

"X" is for the prounounciation of Hajj, Halal, Hussein...

While "H" is pronounced like the English "H"


Abesha, even Tigrinya has that X sound. Yeha is pronounced that way.

I pronounce Hussein, Halal, Hajj and Yeha like the English H

Is it like the Kh sound in like Khaled? A throaty H?
I know Tigrigna has that throaty sound.

[ja'far]

Originally Posted by Ras Siyan

Are you kidding Ja'far?! Both letters are used in Somali but have different pronunciations (though close).

"X" is for the prounounciation of Hajj, Halal, Hussein...

While "H" is pronounced like the English "H"


Abesha, even Tigrinya has that X sound. Yeha is pronounced that way.

what i mean by that is "X" and "H" both sound the same in Somali. Hovever, in eglish both are pronounce differently.

[Ras Siyan]

Originally Posted by abesha

I pronounce Hussein, Halal, Hajj and Yeha like the English H

Is it like the Kh sound in like Khaled? A throaty H?
I know Tigrigna has that throaty sound.

You it wrong then but the sound is different, I don't know how to say but languages such as Arabic, Tigrinya have it.
Its not the same as "KH" sound, which is spelled the same as you did in Somali. And true, Tigrinya has that sound too.

Originally Posted by ja'far

what i mean by that is "X" and "H" both sound the same in Somali. Hovever, in eglish both are pronounce differently.

Again are you kidding Ja'far? Can't you distinguish between X and H in Somali. They're not pronounced the same even in Somali. But for English, its just that they don't even, have that sound.

[Janub]

I found this on another forum, a guy compared Somalia to feudal Japan during the Sengoku Jidai period.





Here's some background on the comparisons he gave:

The Somali civil war seems to be following the exact route that Feudal Japan took to reunification...

1) Central Power (Ashikaga Shogunate, Siad Barre's government) becomes a joke as the powerful clans of the country arm themselves.
2) The most powerful clans in the country duke it out in an enormously bloody conflict that destroys all governing order in the country (Ōnin War, Somalia 1991-1993), the country becomes a seething mass of killing, looting and destruction.
3) The powerful clan factions turn on each other, and tear the country into a million pieces. Military warlords overthrow the "legitimate" aristocracy (Gekokujō, Somalia 1993-2000)
4) Religious groups attempt to establish some order and law (Ikkō-ikki, Islamic Courts), inevitably they are driven to establish a theocratic administration.
5) The most powerful groups begin conquering their weaker neighbors and establish regional hegemonic states. The most powerful amongst them begins conquering the other states one by one until there are only a handful of very powerful states left in the country.
6) The most powerful group begins conquering all the others. <--- Somalia is here

The similarities are mind boggling, even the maps are identical.

[Ajepako]

^interesting comparison.
German was the same way.

[Xusein]

Hopefully Galmudug stays as a buffer.

[lordangers5]

first thing i said to myself when reading this title was bad, possibly? lol
thnx for the map. being waiting for a newer version

[kihihi]

Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni appealed on Sunday for more international support to bolster the African Union force in Somalia during a brief visit to the capital Mogadishu.

Museveni met President Sheikh Sharif Ahmed at the airport along with Somalia's new Prime Minister Mohamed Abdullahi Mohamed and some members of a fresh, streamlined cabinet that was approved by parliament on Saturday.

"We want more troops, from Uganda or from anywhere in Africa. Uganda is a country of 33 million people so we could mobilise 3 million people. But who will pay for it?" said Museveni, who faces a presidential election in February.

"International support is not enough. They don't take the Somali problem seriously," said the former rebel, who visited Mogadishu wearing combat fatigues.

Uganda and Burundi provide all the 7,200 African Union soldiers in Mogadishu propping up a Western-backed government that has failed to stamp its authority on much more than a slice of the capital.

Two hardline Islamist insurgent groups control the rest of Mogadishu and much of southern and central Somalia. The African Union troops have so far prevented the rebels from toppling the weak government by defending key sites.

"I came to check on our troops and also to consult his excellency (President Ahmed). I am very pleased they formed a new government, have a new Prime Minister and are united. Our troops' morale is very high."

FOREIGN JIHADISTS

The AU and the seven-nation east African Intergovernmental Authority on Development (IGAD) have said it could take about 20,000 troops to help quell the insurgents in Somalia, a country without stable central government for nearly 20 years.

Uganda has said it could supply the whole force but wants Western nations and others to help foot the bill.

While there have been many pledges of international support for the Somali government, incessant infighting and rampant corruption have not helped its cause, while government soldiers have missed out on salaries for months.

Western nations say the Horn of African country has become a safe haven for jihadists training to launch attacks in neighbouring countries and further afield.

Somali insurgents linked to al Qaeda killed at least 76 people watching the soccer World Cup final in Uganda's capital with bomb blasts, in retaliation for the Ugandan troop presence.

The chaos in Somalia has also allowed piracy to flourish off shore. The number of successful hijackings by Somali pirates was at a five-year high in the first nine-months of 2010.

Somalia's new prime minister, who has been in office for about a month, plans to recruit 8,000 government troops to push the rebels and foreign fighters in their ranks out of Mogadishu.

"My first, second and third priority is improving security. In the first phase we are going to recruit 8,000 government troops," Mohamed told Reuters in an interview last week.

"Our initial target will be to drive the rebels from the capital Mogadishu and then the rest of the country. We shall not talk to foreign jihadists ... who came here to harass our people and our country," the prime minister said.

[kihihi]

Uganda's President Yoweri Museveni has paid a surprise visit to Somalia's war-ravaged capital.

A spokesman for the African Union peacekeepers, Barigye Bahoku, says that Museveni's more than 4-hour visit on Sunday was meant to show his solidarity with the war-battered Somali people.

He says Museveni met with the Somali president, the prime minister, and peacekeeping commanders and soldiers before he left the country. Uganda has contributed the bulk of the 7,000-strong African Union force that is keeping the country's weak government alive.

Museveni is a strong supporter of an African intervention to defeat insurgents who confined the U.N-backed government into a few blocks of the capital, Mogadishu.

Bahoku says this was Museveni's second visit to Somalia since he took power in 1986.