Somali Politics | Siyaasada Soomaalida

[The Nomadic Warrior]

This man does not stop begging the West for money does he. He actually has no shame whatsoever, he actually thinks he will single handily resolve the Somali situation with his heavy handed approach; he is trying to achieve something beyond his limitations. He also spoke about stopping piracy which doesn’t even plague South Somalia. Even Puntland are anti-AU.

All in all, the Ugandans are worsening the situation and increasing support for Al Shabab with their relentless shelling of Civilians, with each death of a civilian, his relatives joins Al Shabab

[Mr.Djibouti]

this was Museveni's second visit to Somalia since he took power in 1986

holy shit, I thought Uganda had a functioning democracy but woooowwww, he's been in power in almost 25 years. Oh my godness. damn its time to feel good about my country, after all we do not have it that bad.

[ja'far]

Originally Posted by Mr.Djibouti

holy shit, I thought Uganda had a functioning democracy but woooowwww, he's been in power in almost 25 years. Oh my godness. damn its time to feel good about my country, after all we do not have it that bad.

You didn't know that?

The dude has been runing the show since 1986. And the sad thing is he still wants to run another term.

[romulo tokyo]

Originally Posted by Mr.Djibouti

holy shit, I thought Uganda had a functioning democracy but woooowwww, he's been in power in almost 25 years. Oh my godness. damn its time to feel good about my country, after all we do not have it that bad.

Mr.Djibouti
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lol nice try

[mwanamwiwa]

Originally Posted by Mr.Djibouti

holy shit, I thought Uganda had a functioning democracy but woooowwww, he's been in power in almost 25 years. Oh my godness. damn its time to feel good about my country, after all we do not have it that bad.

Compared to Uganda you do.

[Janub]

I respect this man! Unlike that pussy Zenawi this man can at least see his tasks face to face, Meles never visited Mogadishu, not since Siad Barre kicked him out of his apartment in the 80s.

This is a massive show of power by Museveni, I will not be surprised if the UN leaves him as the caretaker of Somalia in the future, it looks inevitable, and it will be good for both nations; Somalia gets stability and leadership, Uganda gets a long coastline to start businesses on the ports.

[mwanamwiwa]

Originally Posted by The Nomadic Warrior

This man does not stop begging the West for money does he. He actually has no shame whatsoever, he actually thinks he will single handily resolve the Somali situation with his heavy handed approach; he is trying to achieve something beyond his limitations. He also spoke about stopping piracy which doesn’t even plague South Somalia. Even Puntland are anti-AU.

All in all, the Ugandans are worsening the situation and increasing support for Al Shabab with their relentless shelling of Civilians, with each death of a civilian, his relatives joins Al Shabab

Lame,ridiculous and outright absurd.Ugandan peacekeepers in Somalia is an African Union mandate.

[The Nomadic Warrior]

Originally Posted by mwanamwiwa

Lame,ridiculous and getting old.Its an African Union mandate.

Spin it as much as you want. Uganda is in Somalia for the money and they should be considered as “foreign merchants”. This man has no shame in begging, and it’s quite pathetic honestly

[lordangers5]

Originally Posted by romulo tokyo

lol nice try

lol!
Would have been funney if he was in this argument though.......
How abouts next time he uses a more creative idea in trying to sneak past the mods lol? Try changing his name for example

As for the thread........ Kinda silly he only stayed for 4 hours. I was going to give him a pat on the back. I suppose if his presence had been known then he would have endangered people. However I suppose at least he's got the balls to stpe foot on that place. I think like Nomadic said, clueless as to the situation in Somalia and how to handel it. It's a difficult topic.
Personally, I think for now, the AU should push the rebels out of Mogadishu with some sort of modified mandate and that way take the violence away from civilian areas. That or take a hike.

[Janub]

Nomadic, what's your solution to Somalia? I'd like to genuinely hear this because you scoff at every viable answer. You're against AU policing, you're against giving concession to the militants and negotiating thereafter, you're against bolstering the TFG.

Your lack of answering this question leads me to believe you're just a teenager looking for an online fight rather than for discussion.

[The Nomadic Warrior]

Originally Posted by Janub

Nomadic, what's your solution to Somalia? I'd like to genuinely hear this because you scoff at every viable answer. You're against AU policing, you're against giving concession to the militants and negotiating thereafter, you're against bolstering the TFG.

Your lack of answering this question leads me to believe you're just a teenager looking for an online fight rather than for discussion.

Like I said, it’s an internal issue which can only be solved internally. I really don’t understand the audacity these Ugandans really have. This is long going civil war which couldn’t have been stopped by Americans and USA back Ethiopians, yet Ugandans who constantly beg money to fight will somehow resolve the situation.

It’s quite laughable and painfully pathetic.


I have said that TFG should negotiate with both clan elders and Al Shabab, numerous times,

TFG and Sharif have said that they willingly to implement Sharia Law, which could easily be the starting point of the negotiations


Overall within getting into in-depth detail, I would say tribal federalism with Sharia Law should be the way forward for Somalia.

[lordangers5]

Originally Posted by The Nomadic Warrior

Spin it as much as you want. Uganda is in Somalia for the money and they should be considered as “foreign merchants”. This man has no shame in begging, and it’s quite pathetic honestly

The money they are asking for, is for the AU mission. They dont gain anything from the US for this. I believe that they are getting a few thumbs up for this. For example they managed to pretty much silence the UN on their findings with DRC crimes. But if you can point out any source that shows us that Uganda is gaining anything from the US because of these peace missions then I will believe you.
As for the begging thing. Do you think Uganda should be wasting millions of their own money to send troops off to go die for Somalia's benefit? Well wht they see as Somalia's benefit?

[The Nomadic Warrior]

Originally Posted by lordangers5

The money they are asking for, is for the AU mission. They dont gain anything from the US for this. I believe that they are getting a few thumbs up for this. For example they managed to pretty much silence the UN on their findings with DRC crimes. But if you can point out any source that shows us that Uganda is gaining anything from the US because of these peace missions then I will believe you.
As for the begging thing. Do you think Uganda should be wasting millions of their own money to send troops off to go die for Somalia's benefit? Well wht they see as Somalia's benefit?

Uganda is being funded according to their mandate sufficiently, what he is doing is asking for more money and more troops. He is practically begging.

Again, he talks about mobilizing 3 million men. You need to understand each of these soldiers get paid well compared to the average African wage and most of this money they make in Somalia will go back to Uganda.

Ugandans in Iraq, bring home an estimated 100 million a year. They want to do the same with Somalia, it all about making money; no one actually cares about this so called mandate

So far these so called peacekeepers who have committed genocide in the Congo’s have worsen the situation in Somalia and strengthen Al Shabab supporters’ base.

Stay in Uganda

[BUTEMBO21]

Originally Posted by lordangers5

The money they are asking for, is for the AU mission. They dont gain anything from the US for this.

Who do you think pays for AU missions? Master US.

The name is AU, the bank is US, interests US and Museveni, clean up Job is Ugandan soldiers.

The US and EU pays all the bills.

[mwanamwiwa]

Originally Posted by BUTEMBO21

Who do you think pays for AU missions? Master US.

The name is AU, the bank is US, interests US and Museveni, clean up Job is Ugandan soldiers.

The US and EU pays all the bills.

Those are dangerous allegations,do you have any proof?

[BUTEMBO21]

Originally Posted by mwanamwiwa

Those are dangerous allegations,do you have any proof?

They are facts.

What interests does Uganda has in Somalia (Other than Museveni's personal interests)?

If the country can't even lift it own soldiers into Somalia, if it can't supply themselves for this operation.

Then what makes you think it isn't true?

Ask Kihihi who is paying for the operations.

[lordangers5]

Originally Posted by BUTEMBO21

Who do you think pays for AU missions? Master US.

The name is AU, the bank is US, interests US and Museveni, clean up Job is Ugandan soldiers.

The US and EU pays all the bills.

Like I said Uganda doesnt gain anything?

@Nomadic: Ugandan soldiers are some of the worst paid troops in East Africa. You get bonus for going on peace missions but then let's remember you are being shot at. Also Ugandans get payed by the Ugandan government. Museveni is asking for the logistics and equipment such as the Mamba's and Buffels. Thats where the money goes. Not wages.
I agree he sounds like a looney when he says he can mobilise 3 million men. Only one NATO member can beat that. Guess who........

[lordangers5]

Originally Posted by BUTEMBO21

They are facts.

What interests does Uganda has in Somalia (Other than Museveni's personal interests)?

If the country can't even lift it own soldiers into Somalia, if it can't supply themselves for this operation.

Then what makes you think it isn't true?

Ask Kihihi who is paying for the operations.

He asked for proof not theories.

[ja'far]

Originally Posted by mwanamwiwa

Those are dangerous allegations,do you have any proof?

I have posted that before on other thread regarding AU mission in Somalia.

[mwanamwiwa]

Originally Posted by lordangers5

He asked for proof not theories.

Thanks.Butembo....