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Old March 6th, 2012, 01:02 AM   #221
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I'm interested in hearing about the below grade section of the University line. Will houston have it's first true subway station?
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Old March 9th, 2012, 09:39 AM   #222
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Metro Ridership Has Increased from an email the Editor of HAIF received

More people are riding METRO buses and rail more often.

METRO ridership is on the rise for a sixth consecutive month, recording a 5.2 percent increase to 6,357,131 boardings in January 2012 compared to 6,043,280 in January 2011.

“Thanks to our focus on smart service and service changes to improve the system, we have been able to take advantage of the improving economy to deliver first-class transit to our community,” said METRO President & CEO George Greanias.

Upward METRO Ridership Trend Continues for Sixth Consecutive Month

Local bus and Park & Ride - January, 2011: 5,277,229
Local bus and Park & Ride - January, 2012: 5,455,106

MetroRAIL - January, 2011: 766,051
MetroRAIL - January, 2012: 902,025

METRORail ridership posted a 17.7 percent increase to 902,025 boardings compared to the 766,051 recorded in the same month last year. Park & Ride and local bus service jumped to 5,455,106 boardings versus 5,277,229 in January 2011.
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Old March 9th, 2012, 09:40 AM   #223
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I'm interested in hearing about the below grade section of the University line. Will houston have it's first true subway station?
According to the current plans, all of the stations will be at grade.
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Old March 9th, 2012, 09:57 PM   #224
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it's first true subway station
What's with all this incessant doctoring up? I figure just a few of us know whom to be squarely blaming for dropping "underground" from the lexicon
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Old March 13th, 2012, 06:14 AM   #225
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Houston is a very flat city. I wonder how "easy" it would be to carve out a good subway system.
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Old March 13th, 2012, 07:09 AM   #226
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it should be easy. But I think Houston has a high water table I'm not sure how that would effect tunneling.
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Old March 13th, 2012, 08:26 AM   #227
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Houston is a very flat city. I wonder how "easy" it would be to carve out a good subway system.
Well for starters it would not be easy at all (and would cost billions of dollars to build) because of the high water table and the clay soil. It's the same reason why most buildings in the area do not have basements.

Also many areas are located in flood zones which would make building a subway in those areas even worse.

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Old March 13th, 2012, 11:35 PM   #228
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They would have to constantly pump water out of the tunnels if they were to build a subway. It looks like above ground rail is the way to go for Houston's rail transportation.
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Old March 15th, 2012, 01:56 AM   #229
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What about monorails? Above ground rail is ok, but at-grade light-rail is an underperforming solution. It is the transit equivalent of having some traffic lights or roundabouts on Kate Freeway.
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Old March 15th, 2012, 07:02 AM   #230
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Old March 17th, 2012, 08:48 AM   #231
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There were attempts at planning a monorail system in Houston, but it never panned out. In the late 50's there was a demonstration line in a park for a suspended monorail. Then in the 80s there was a more serious plan. I wish I knew more about, I just remember as a kid the adults around me talking about it.


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It would have been cool, but who knows if it would have really worked out well in the end. Not that monorails are bad or inferior or only for amusement parks. Just that heavy urban rail in general is expensive and hard to extend.

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Old March 19th, 2012, 05:35 AM   #232
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The part about the water table is true. However, with modern tunneling techniques I've read it would be just the same in an area without the high water table. How correct this is, I honestly don't know.
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The part about the water table is true. However, with modern tunneling techniques I've read it would be just the same in an area without the high water table. How correct this is, I honestly don't know.
One thing is to make a long tunnel in which the major problems are the embankments at each entrance. Other, much more challenging thing is to excavate many stations and the like.

Possible, but expensive.
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Old March 20th, 2012, 05:37 AM   #234
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If the Dallas-Fort Worth area had their airport connected by a light-rail system, then the long term plans for Houston's METRORail may include an extension of the north/south rail line to the Intercontinental Airport and an extension of the Southeast Line to Hobby Airport.
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Old March 21st, 2012, 11:35 PM   #235
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If the Dallas-Fort Worth area had their airport connected by a light-rail system, then the long term plans for Houston's METRORail may include an extension of the north/south rail line to the Intercontinental Airport and an extension of the Southeast Line to Hobby Airport.
Eventually they might. Dallas-Fort Worth's airport line should be ready in a couple of years.
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Old March 22nd, 2012, 06:38 AM   #236
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They would have to constantly pump water out of the tunnels if they were to build a subway. It looks like above ground rail is the way to go for Houston's rail transportation.
That's normal for an underground railway. London Underground has to pump 30,000 cubic metres of water out of its tunnels daily.
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Old March 22nd, 2012, 10:53 AM   #237
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That's normal for an underground railway. London Underground has to pump 30,000 cubic metres of water out of its tunnels daily.
As does New York
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Old March 22nd, 2012, 05:35 PM   #238
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What fraction of those cities wastage comes from broken water mains?
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Old March 23rd, 2012, 03:07 AM   #239
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What fraction of those cities wastage comes from broken water mains?
What does that have to do with the price of tea in china?
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Old March 29th, 2012, 09:53 PM   #240
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Clearly, nothing to do with your pegging such costliness to the world's biggest autocracy instead of its largest democracy.
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