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I'm pretty sure when there was uproar from Labour when the conservatives were in charge and the possibilty of building on green belt was bought up...
Anyway I think the idea of a new "city" inbetween Birmingham and Coventry in the Meriden Gap is a great idea when HS2 is up and running, will help better link up both cities in my opinion. Talk of Redditch, Tamworth and Bromsgrove also helping out to reach the number of homes, should do good for a "closer" Greater Birmingham feel Quote:
Read More http://www.birminghampost.net/news/w...#ixzz1zlxkhepb |
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Housing regeneration scheme re-launched : http://birminghamnewsroom.com/2012/0...ed-by-council/
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As above, great news. I wonder when icknield port loop will get off the ground?
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I hadn't even heard of the Pype Hayes area : http://birminghamnewsroom.com/2012/0...ransformation/
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I know tower blocks aren't exactly liked by many people, but with such a housing shortage should we really be demolishing structurally sound buildings that offer so much accommodation on such a small plot of land? we should be renovating the blocks and replacing the housing estates around them
Anyway, Brent Council are seeking deals with landlords in Birmingham and Coventry for some of its tennants, further adding to our housing shortage.... Quote:
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Interesting - why not build up density instead of more suburban development. Redevelop the appallingly wasted inner city areas adjacent to the city centre.
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the plan includes that land too, but to meet the demand we need to build on green belt, and even then we will have a shortfall
its not just the housing, with it comes the jobs needed, schools, hospital places, shops etc. Interestingly they appear to want Sutton Coldfield to become a "second centre" for considerable retail expansion and offices |
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Why don't we convert all the usused office space in the city centre into residential. Its obvious we have too much office space theres a to let sign on every building. Some would be very nice residential flats in some of the old buildings in the Colmore Business District.
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J agree with the notion that we should be building more density and the assumptions in these numbers don't allow for as much density as we could manage with different funding models The problem is the way we have not invested in public housing... We have tried to get the market to deliver the housing we need by taxing private developers through the requirement for them to fund social housing yet this had led to a shortage of homes and increasing rent cost.we should move to local authorities selling off the most expensive properties they own when they naturally become vacant and using the proceeds to buy properties from developers (up to 20% of developments) which should see councils able to negotiate a bulk buy discount and invest in more sustainable forms development such as higher densitys near transport nodes and in the city centre. It its the same principal but with the funding reversed
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not every office block with a sign on is empty, some just have some empty floors
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I agree Engels - there's nothing wrong or any stigma attached to living in social housing nowadays. I had to apply a few years ago and lived in some nice refurbished flats that were 20% cheaper than private landlord leasings. And of course it means that more money goes into the council's coffers.
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Right new local authorities turnover their properties to the next tenant with no thought whether it would be better to sell to the private market and reinvest in new build.
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No offence Engles but the market hasn't really worked as the last 5 years have shown us.. up to the other energy companies are being investigated for price fixing.
Basically they should be building the homes anyway, there is no need for them to be going cap in hand as a bulk buyer or telling developers they can't have permission unless they have 30% affordable. Developers do not want to provide affordable housing at all and will look for anything they can to not provide it and if they do, then they will cut costs as far as they can. However i do think private developers should provide affordable housing but unfortunately (bit of a wider point) attitudes towards affordable in the uk are not good and no one wants to live near affordable houses and quote "those people who don't work or have jobs" (someone said that to me in a consultation) You will always have the tension between weather to sell to the private market or not, but we need a mix of housing and right now we have far to much market housing that people cannot afford to buy... therefore the model is broken. To solve our housing issues its simple, the council need to start building houses themselves with mixed tenure communities at higher densities in places which allow. They just built houses behind broad street which look good but are too low density for a city centre location. Sell some on the private market, keep some for discounted market sale, some for market rent and some for social. Much of the cost is gained from the sales with the longer investments in social and rented. The idea of the Tories to allow developers not to provide affordable is stupid too. Also the houses we build in the UK are cheap quality, over priced and small without space for every day living. That needs to change too.
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![]() I agree that in certain areas high density is the answer, but our transport infrastructure is so poor, we would be just building gridlock problems for the future...From another standpoint why shouldn't wasted city or brownfield sites be turned into greenspace to improve quality of life for folks in the inner city..Why do the money folks think its ok to cram housing in the inner city, but not in their backyard..then complain about those same inner city folks and how they behave. The city is g-r-o-w-i-n-g and yet nobody seems to accept this will mean expansion and change. The housing plans need to incorporate sympathetic consideration and green space in the green belt and the brownfield sites too, to improve the w-h-o-l-e city. For me though the transport infrastructure is the main reason we are caught between a rock and a hard place. |
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Park central is a brilliant project, combines higher density, green spaces and a good mix of social and economic backgrounds.There should be 10 similar schemes under contruction all around central Birmingham
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If the public sector negotiated to buy 20-30% of a developers properties off plan for social housing then the developer could build at lower risk, raise capital cheaper and quicker and the whole process would be quicker meaning the same money is tied up for less time ergo more properties would be built. Councils would only have to buy from whom they wanted to and if they wanted to but by making them sell existing properties that have value as they become vacant the market will start to move as the public sector invests its substantial capital in leveraging a further significant amount of private sector house building as well as the 20/30% of properties they buy for social rent.
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Put simply high density is appropriate within local centers and within a short walk of public transport nodes (such as rail stations / bus interchanges) - it is not appropriate 'anywhere' however most of Brum citiy centre is appropriate on the basis of the obvious proximity to public transport and local shops services jobs
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