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Old December 7th, 2010, 04:11 PM   #41
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I assume alexjonlin was thinking buses would still serve downtown after they're no longer in the tunnel. Seems like a somewhat reasonable place to allow buses to stage prior to beginning routes plus have a few spare buses for breakdowns. It would be expensive space just for staging but there's probably a need for it and I'm not a big fan of walking through the Denny triangle area and seeing a fair number of buses just waiting to begin their routes. Maybe Greyhound couldn't afford it but I imagine a NYC Port Authority building or SF's Transbay Terminal that serve regional buses and local buses.
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Old December 7th, 2010, 06:49 PM   #42
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Rather than allowing the buses to stay there during the project, it would be massively simpler to vacate the site, and build the new convention center with a purpose-built bus area below. It's an interesting thought to keep the freeway access.
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Old December 8th, 2010, 01:36 AM   #43
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But what I mean is that plenty of buses that take surface streets Downtown enter the Convention Place Station area and get onto the Express Lanes from there. Also, lots of buses that don't necessarily use the tunnel layover there.
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Old December 8th, 2010, 03:38 AM   #44
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Lol whoops. I always have the problem of clicking the "most recent post" button but not seeing when posts continue onto the next page. But yeah I agree mhays, they should close it while constructing the convention center annex, and build a specifically-designed bus staging area below, hopefully one that would still allow street-oriented uses all along Olive, 9th, and Pine except for the bus entrances and exits.
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Old April 26th, 2011, 12:47 AM   #45
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I assume alexjonlin was thinking buses would still serve downtown after they're no longer in the tunnel. Seems like a somewhat reasonable place to allow buses to stage prior to beginning routes plus have a few spare buses for breakdowns.
Actually, it would need to be set up as a depot, and it's not. KCM has three bases just south of downtown that serve them pretty well. Also, when a bus returns to base, its on-board ORCA equipment uploads transaction data to the servers by way of a wireless access point that has antenna locations at the depots. It then downloads updated route/run data for the next time it leaves the base. This is automatic every time it's in range.

Also: what's the story with this building? Very active thread in Dec, then silence.
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Old April 26th, 2011, 01:58 AM   #46
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Well it doesn't have to be a base, it can just be a layover area. There are a ton of buses, especially Sound Transit ones, that layover on the street in this area and take up a lot of space. They would still need to return to base at the end of the day, though.
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Old April 28th, 2011, 03:50 AM   #47
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As another poster asked, any updates on imminent groundbreaking for this project? The last posts talking about this are indeed from December.
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Old June 28th, 2011, 06:23 AM   #48
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Is this one 'dead?' I see that it's been a long time since it was discussed. Does anyone have any news more recent than what is posted in this thread? I noticed that it's not included in the main Seattle development thread either...
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Old June 28th, 2011, 06:58 PM   #49
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CPM_Seattle said last December that project supposed to start construction soon... It been 6 months now and nothing happened yet. I don't think it is dead project... It probably on hold just for now.
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Old June 29th, 2011, 03:21 AM   #50
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Old February 28th, 2012, 05:03 AM   #51
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Time to bring this thread back to life!

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...nthpine28.html
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Old February 28th, 2012, 05:06 AM   #52
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Yes! I was just reading that article! So awesome that this one and 2nd and Pike are coming back to life!
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Old February 28th, 2012, 05:32 AM   #53
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The building as it was originally proposed:

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Old February 28th, 2012, 05:39 AM   #54
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I forgot how exciting building booms were.
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Old February 28th, 2012, 05:49 AM   #55
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Thank you Amazon
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Old February 28th, 2012, 06:16 AM   #56
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So, is Martin Selig being prescient when he says he thinks too many apartments are being built, or is he being overly cautious.

There will be an awful lot of supply coming online, but then again, if Amazon thinks they need 3 million sq.ft. of office space, some of them will want to live nearby.
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Old February 28th, 2012, 06:18 AM   #57
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A reason to bust out the dance party!

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Old February 28th, 2012, 06:34 AM   #58
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It really reminds me 8th and Seneca. I'm not sure if it's good or a bad thing..
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Old February 28th, 2012, 06:36 AM   #59
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More density to the seattle skyline! I didn't think 'twas possible.
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Old February 28th, 2012, 06:43 AM   #60
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Holland will be tweaking this (more smaller units), but here's the latest Design Review: http://www.seattle.gov/dpd/AppDocs/G...endaID2648.pdf

Sorry but all pages need to be turned to the right.
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