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Old June 17th, 2008, 10:04 PM   #21
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Is the first picture La Marsa station?

Thanks a lot for these pictures!!!!!

Merci beaucoup!!!!!
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Old June 18th, 2008, 07:38 AM   #22
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Yup it's La Marsa's terminal ...the next one is close to La Marsa, around the Corniche station
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Old July 9th, 2008, 09:03 PM   #23
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Some infos about the TGM:
"Entre Tunis, La Goulette et La Marsa, circule Le toujours fameux "TGM" (Tunis-Goulette-Marsa). Ce train permettant aux Tunisois de fuir la canicule, pour aller sur les plages de la banlieue nord, fut le premier moyen de transport collectif à voir le jour dans une cité africaine, il y a 133 ans.
Le premier train a été inauguré par son Altesse Mohamed Sadok Bey le 31 août 1872
(which means we had a tram system when we still were indepenant, almost a decade before the french colonization). La dynastie de l’époque affaiblie se payait ainsi "un caprice" sous la pression des puissances coloniales qui se disputaient la Tunisie quelques années avant l’instauration du Protectorat de la France (1881-1956). Français, Anglais... étaient sur les rangs pour sa construction et ce sont les Anglais qui l’emportèrent.
C’est le TGM qui fut à l’origine de l’extension de Tunis vers le nord, créant ainsi ce qu’est devenue ensuite, en front de mer, la banlieue la plus prisée et la plus pittoresque.
Cette ligne porte officiellement le nom de TGM depuis 1905, date de l'inauguration du premier tracé direct à travers le lac de Tunis.
À terme, le TGM va être intégré dans le réseau du métro léger de Tunis et une nouvelle ligne sera construite vers Aïn Zaghouan et Bhar Lazrag (8,4 kilomètres). Une telle opération nécessitera la mise à niveau des quais de gares afin qu'ils soient adaptés aux rames du métro léger."

I found some interesting pictures about the first trains/metros that were used on that line...it's interesting to c the evolution of the locomotives through time

One of the first models - 1875


Sidi Bou Said Station - 1960


Once upon a time...Somewhere between Tunis and La Marsa...


Douar Chott (I don't know that place ...have you heard about it Tounsi, or some1 else?) - 1972


Some old retaired TGM wagons


The current metro/train (btw is it considered as a metro or a train...?)


Douar Chott Amrou is Now the Sidi Dhrif station between Sidi bou and La Marsa .

The building shown in the pictures is the Pere Blanc Monastery and school ;-)

In my opinion it is a train and not a tramway not yet !!
with the new plan all this will change sonner that we think !!!
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Old July 9th, 2008, 09:13 PM   #24
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The first tram in Tunis

The kasbah Porte de France line

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Old July 11th, 2008, 02:48 AM   #25
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It looks a bit like the Cairo metro.
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Old August 7th, 2008, 07:37 PM   #26
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Sources:

www.lapresse.tnwww.lapresse.tn

http://www.cfd.fr/index.php?page=news














Acquisition de dix rames automotrices par la Sncft


Gain de temps avec une vitesse maximale d’exploitation de 130 km/h
• Les nouvelles rames vont assurer dans une première étape un voyage quotidien aller-retour vers Sousse, et ce, à partir d’aujourd’hui 7 août et desserviront dans une deuxième étape Sfax et Gaâfour.

• Le nombre de places assises est de 132, on compte aussi quatre portières d’accès par rame.


La Société nationale des chemins de fer tunisiens (Sncft) entame aujourd’hui le premier voyage avec les nouvelles rames rapides acquises récemment. En effet, la société a acheté d’un fournisseur français, en l’occurrence CFD Bagnères, dix rames automotrices à voie métrique pour le transport des voyageurs, pour une valeur de 65 millions de dinars. Le but recherché est d’améliorer constamment les prestations et de renforcer l’offre en vue de répondre à une demande sans cesse croissante des voyageurs pour le transport interurbain qui a connu une évolution importante au cours des dernières années, atteignant près de 6 millions de voyageurs par an.

Les nouvelles rames vont assurer dans une première étape un voyage quotidien aller-retour vers Sousse, et ce, à partir d’aujourd’hui 7 août. Par ailleurs, et dans un souci de satisfaire les demandes des différentes régions, ces rames desserviront, dans une deuxième étape, Sfax puis Gaâfour.

Chaque rame est composée de deux automotrices diesel climatisées à voie métrique. Le nombre de places assises est de 132. Un gain de temps appréciable devrait être enregistré durant le trajet, puisque la vitesse maximale d’exploitation est de 130 km/h.

La rame comporte également deux moteurs diesel implantés sous le plancher. La conduite se fait en unité multiple, ce qui permet de faire fonctionner trois rames dirigées depuis une seule cabine. L’attelage est automatique, question de faciliter la composition des rames. De plus, les voyageurs disposent de quatre portières d’accès.

La conception de ces rames ainsi que les composants utilisés relèvent de la technologie la plus récente, ce qui permet incontestablement de fournir les meilleures prestations en termes de confort, de sécurité et de rapidité. Ce matériel va résoudre un tant soit peu le problème qui se pose parfois au niveau du transport ferroviaire. En effet, durant certaines périodes et au cours des heures de pointe, les voyageurs se déplacent dans des conditions peu confortables dans la mesure où les places assises ou même débout ne sont pas toujours disponibles. Ils sont donc obligés de voyager entassés.

De plus, l’ancien matériel vétuste ne permet plus de s’acquitter convenablement de la tâche pour laquelle il est chargé. D’une façon générale, les anciennes rames se caractérisent par plusieurs défectuosités : des portes et des fenêtres qui ne s’ouvrent ou ne se ferment pas, obligeant les clients de la Sncft à passer des moments désagréables en été comme en hiver lors de leurs déplacements. Malgré la maintenance régulière effectuée et qui nécessite chaque année des sommes faramineuses, le matériel n’est plus en mesure d’offrir des prestations de qualité.








BTW theses are the pictures of the AMG in Corse ( South of France0 they are similar to the new trains that arrived to tunisia last week !

the first pic of the above post is from Tunisia .
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Old August 8th, 2008, 12:42 AM   #27
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Looking great. Are Tunis's Citidas trams the only type in the Citidas family to have one streamlined and one blunt end - presumably because two units are semi-permanently coupled together?

Also, the new rail cars shown on this page - they look familiar. Are they similar to either the new rail cars in Corsica or Majorca, or am I imagining it?
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Old August 8th, 2008, 07:39 AM   #28
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Looking great. Are Tunis's Citidas trams the only type in the Citidas family to have one streamlined and one blunt end - presumably because two units are semi-permanently coupled together?

Also, the new rail cars shown on this page - they look familiar. Are they similar to either the new rail cars in Corsica or Majorca, or am I imagining it?
The second picture has been taken in Corsica, you can see the name of the station, Vizzavona.
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Old August 8th, 2008, 01:19 PM   #29
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These railcars are the AMG 800 from CFD Bagnères. 12 have been ordered from Corsica, 10 from Tunisia, and 2 from the Nice-Digne railway.
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Old August 8th, 2008, 10:14 PM   #30
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Looking great. Are Tunis's Citidas trams the only type in the Citidas family to have one streamlined and one blunt end - presumably because two units are semi-permanently coupled together?

Also, the new rail cars shown on this page - they look familiar. Are they similar to either the new rail cars in Corsica or Majorca, or am I imagining it?
They are the same ..

Actually i could not find a lot of pictures from the new tuinsian trains so I took the ones from Corsica wich are identical to the newt unisian fleet .
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Old August 19th, 2008, 10:06 PM   #31
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RFR Updates :


Development of the network between 2007 and 2020 is expected to cost around 3·2bn dinars, and the government hopes that much of the funding can be obtained in the form of soft loans. It has approached JBIC to help fund the civil engineering work, tracklaying, electrification and signalling, plus the purchase of a fleet of double-deck trains. By far the biggest single element would be the purchase of a fleet of 55 trainsets, each formed of two five-car EMUs

MAP of the future RFR network




Hyundai Rotem's XG EMU offers passenger convenience by providing 4 different types interior design (Urban type, Intercity type, Enhanced ride quality & easy access for the physically impaired person, Folding seat type), and each component of XG EMU reduces the "total life cycle cost" of the vehicle by reducing the maintenance costs.


The Chosen Model is the newest XG EMU




Specifications:

Max. Speed : 80 km/h
Traction Motor: 210kW, AC motor
Permanent connection of parallel


More info :

http://www.rotem.co.kr/eng/main_html...?url="2-2-1-M"

http://rotem.co.kr/cyber/public/pdf/...F%B5%B9%AE.pdf



These are the new Rfr XG EMUs already in service in Rio de Janeiro , Brasil .( thanks to Chavito for the info )





The interior :





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Old August 21st, 2008, 09:57 PM   #32
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Old August 22nd, 2008, 10:45 PM   #33
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These are the new Rfr XG EMUs already in service in Turkey .


These trains are in service in Rio de Janeiro not in Turkey
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Are you sure Chavitos becuase I found these pictures in a Turkish Forum .

Since I could not get a word of what they were saying I assumed that they were in Turkey .

My bad thanks for the info !!!

I found this thread .. http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...39159&t=308312

Thanks again for sharing and the pix are just great it gives me a better idea of what we should expect to see in tunis very soon !!
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Old August 24th, 2008, 12:38 AM   #35
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Other Pictures of the new Citadis Trams .













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Old August 25th, 2008, 10:08 PM   #36
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Are you sure Chavitos becuase I found these pictures in a Turkish Forum .

Since I could not get a word of what they were saying I assumed that they were in Turkey .

My bad thanks for the info !!!

The train in the picture is from Supervia (Rio's commuter train).

Probably, the same train has been bought by Turkish Railways.
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Old August 25th, 2008, 10:32 PM   #37
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The train in the picture is from Supervia (Rio's commuter train).

Probably, the same train has been bought by Turkish Railways.
Right I found the website of Supervia looking forward to see theses trains in Tunisia !!


I found these renders of the new RFR's stations :

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Old August 26th, 2008, 03:45 AM   #38
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One question Tounsi.

Why are proposing to convert the TGM into light rail operation instead on including it in the RFR network?

By the way, could you post the TGM timetables?

Thanks


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Old August 26th, 2008, 02:52 PM   #39
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wow nice trams for Tunis... i'm impressed...

one question... sorry for being stupid... what does TGM means? and how many people does it serve during day... and are there any night lines operating that track?
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wow nice trams for Tunis... i'm impressed...

one question... sorry for being stupid... what does TGM means? and how many people does it serve during day... and are there any night lines operating that track?
Not at all!!!

TGM stands for Tunis - La Goulette -La Marsa, the main stations of the line basically It serves around 50 .000 people on a daily basis



As far as the night lines the service ends at 12:30 I believe

The plan is stil to upgrade the TGm to a regular tram like the existing network. A new line will cross the TGm and will go up to Bhar Lazreg as showned in this map ;-)

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