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Old August 26th, 2008, 07:09 PM   #41
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One question Tounsi.

Why are proposing to convert the TGM into light rail operation instead on including it in the RFR network?

By the way, could you post the TGM timetables?

Thanks

Good question

I thought that it would more logic to upgrade the existing TGm to an Rfr instead of a light rail .

I think there is one main reason the frequence of the TGM stations. the RFR will have a speed of 80 km/h and the distance between the stations is too short for this type of RFR.

They are also adding a new line that will start at the actual El kheiredine station.
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Old December 4th, 2010, 02:27 PM   #42
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TUNIS | Public Transport

THE MAP OF THE EXISTING NETWORK :

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Old December 4th, 2010, 02:28 PM   #43
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Old December 4th, 2010, 04:24 PM   #44
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THE MAP OF THE EXISTING NETWORK :

This map is not up to date. It doesn't show line 6 to El Mourouj and line 4 extension to Kheireddine.

In http://www.urbanrail.net/af/tunis/tunis.htm you can find the map of the existing network:

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Old December 6th, 2010, 04:02 PM   #45
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Any pics of the RER system?

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Old January 9th, 2011, 03:20 PM   #46
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TUNIS TRAM

Tunis was the 1st African city which has returned its tram in 1985. Now Algiers & Oran following tunis.

The green vehicles, and the maps shown here are not light rails, all are trams, yes modern trams, which opened in 1985.

Tunis's light rail is one of the oldest, opened in 1895, here's the photo of Tunis light rail.


Amap of Tunis' previous tram (closed in sixties) is needed for me.
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Old January 11th, 2011, 07:54 AM   #47
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Old January 11th, 2011, 06:59 PM   #48
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Recently I’ve confused between the tram-light rail-metro-suburban train terms in Tunis.

www.lrta.org & www.subways.net says that blue-white vehicle is light rail, but www.urbanrail.net says it is suburban train. www.lrta.org says the green vehicle is modern tram, but www.subways.net & www.urbanrail.net says it is light rail. Also, many people say that green vehicles are metro. I totally get confused.
Which definition is true? An urban rail fan of Tunis please clears this.

My word is green vehicles are tram, & blue vehicles are suburban train. Am I right?

I’ve some questions (arose after viewing some websites). Please answer one by one –

1) Is there a plan to convert the TGM line to tram in future?
2) Will there be a new tram route to Cite Ennasr?
3) Will route 6 be extended to Fouchana in future?
4) Why Tunis trams (both Duwag & Citadis stocks) run two coupled sets like EMU trains?
5) Is Tunis planning a completely new 5 line suburban rail network Vers Borj Cedria, Fouchana, Manouba Mnihla, Sidi Hcin Essijoumi, Nord Ariana.
6) When the construction of MODERN TRAMWAYS started, were the previous tram tracks (closed in sixties) discovered under the road surface in the time of digging?
7) Which areas were previously served by tram, and are now common with old and new tram?
8) Is there any remaining of previous tram network in Tunis?
9) Why Tunis closed its tram, and why again returned?
At last a latest news -
A further 16 Alstom Citadis trams have been ordered by TRANSTU, the Tunis transit authority to meet growing passenger numbers arising from the extensions of line 1 to El Mourouj and of line 2 to La Manouba.

The new trams which will be identical to the 39 already in service and which carry 460,000 passengers per day. In addition Alstom will also provide maintenance service for the entire fleet of 55 Citadis trams over a five-year period. The total contract is worth EUR 58 million.
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Old January 12th, 2011, 12:52 AM   #49
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My word is green vehicles are tram, & blue vehicles are suburban train. Am I right?
Yes, you're right. Sometimes people use the word light metro as a synonymous of modern tram, at least here in Europe. I think that's the reason why the Tunis system is called "Métro Léger de Tunis", although it is a tram network, not a metro network.
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Old January 12th, 2011, 02:06 AM   #50
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The train in the video is made by French company CFD.
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Old January 15th, 2011, 09:24 PM   #51
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the main train station in Tunis has burned down...
there's a video of it on facebook - http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1729468591514


Workers clean a train station dammaged overnight, on January 15, 2011 in Tunis. There were scenes of looting overnight in the suburbs of Tunis, witnesses said on state television, but the streets were mostly empty on Saturday with shops shuttered and army patrols in the city centre visibly stepped up. AFP PHOTO / FRED DUFOUR (Photo credit should read FRED DUFOUR/AFP/Getty Images)

http://www.ladepeche.fr/article/2011...-Carthage.html

Un soldat monte la garde devant une gare, le 15 janvier 2011 à Tunis. Fred Dufour AFP
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Old January 15th, 2011, 11:40 PM   #52
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4) Why Tunis trams (both Duwag & Citadis stocks) run two coupled sets like EMU trains?
9) Why Tunis closed its tram, and why again returned?
4) Capacity. And it is possible to replace only one tram if it is broken. Sometimes in Europe in similar cases only one tram run when there is low demand (evening, sunday).
9) A lot of european and north american cities closed their systems when the massive use of cars started, then trams were reintroduced when road traffic became too common and started causing congestion (tramways can carry more people than buses...)
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Old January 16th, 2011, 08:29 PM   #53
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At last, some links, for plenty photos of Tunis tram. Either click or paste to the address bar of your browser.

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category: Category:Trams of Tunis
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Tunis_Metro
http://www.trampicturebook.de/tram/a...unis/index.htm
http://www.urbanrail.net/af/tunis/tunis2.htm

Tunis has the only modern high speed tram of Africa. It is also the most soothing tram, especially the older Duwag stocks, which were fully green with a black ’n white stripe in middle, Oh! Really beautiful!

After viewing some websites, I’ve come to the following decision –

1) Tunis once had a tramway system, which were closed during sixties.
2) Tunis returned tram during eighties, which is now running with 6 routes.
3) The so called TGM line is a light rail line, not suburban rail line.
4) Tunis’ suburban rail network is totally un-electrified, served by DMU trains & diesel loco hauling.
5) Tunis is now planning to electrify its suburban rail network, and to start EMU trains & electric loco hauling.
6) The future electrified suburban rail network will be called RFR.
7) The electrified network will connect Vers Borj Cedria, Fouchana, Manouba Mnihla, Sidi Hcin Essijoumi, Nord Ariana with Tunis.
8) Dure to increasing population, the modern tram network alones is not sufficient for smooth transportation, so Tunis is now planning a subway system.

Please say whether I’m right or wrong.
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Here I’m posting a photo of old tram network. Can anyone say the names of the places in Tunis? Are those places now served again by tram?



Is there a plan to convert the TGM line to tram in future?

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Old January 16th, 2011, 08:40 PM   #55
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A lot of european and north american cities closed their systems when the massive use of cars started, then trams were reintroduced when road traffic became too common and started causing congestion (tramways can carry more people than buses...)
Thank you mankind for returning trams. Better late than never.

Many South American & Asian cities are also returning trams now.
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Thank you mankind for returning trams. Better late than never.

Many South American & Asian cities are also returning trams now.
and Jerusalem is the city in Asia that is opening its tram this year. That must make you jump for joy.
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Old January 16th, 2011, 11:08 PM   #57
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Yes I do.

Please try to say the locations of the posted tram photos.
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Old January 23rd, 2011, 10:54 PM   #58
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Will there be a new tram route to Cite Ennasr?

Will route 6 be extended to Fouchana in future?
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Look, both generations carries same route number, i.e. – 3 & 5. So are both generations routes same? I think not, because old route 3 shows Bardo but new route goes to Ibn khaldoun.

However, please try to write here old tram routes path following route number.
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There are many variations of alignment on Tunis tram, which is really outstanding in Africa.



It is getting out from underground,



and on fully reserved track, and passes through a gorge type place, much like a dry canal bed.



And it is also on street running.

When Alexandria kept its tram network, and expanded for a long times, why Tunis closed it in sixties? No doubt Alexandria is much old and congested than Tunis. Then what was the problem?

I’m proposing to start a heritage tram service on Tunis; using pre sixties tram type, which once run in Tunis. That tram used trolley pole. Current overhead wire system will allow trolley pole. It will be ideal on Sundays and national holidays, especially attractive for tourists.
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