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Old December 11th, 2012, 03:00 PM   #1221
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Final Four in Istanbul (Turkey) with the first semifinal to be played at Şükrü Saracoğlu and the second semifinal to be played at Ali Sami Yen. Final to be played at Atatürk Olympiyat!
Nooo. They should use just football stadiums.
But they are too small?!?!

Ali Sami Yen 52,652
Sükrü Saracoglu 50,509
Inönü 42,000

All are new and just football stadiums.
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Old December 11th, 2012, 03:20 PM   #1222
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Nooo. They should use just football stadiums.
But they are too small?!?!

Ali Sami Yen 52,652
Sükrü Saracoglu 50,509
Inönü 42,000

All are new and just football stadiums.
Yes but for a final you need a real high-capacity stadium!

You can't play for example a quarterfinal in Barcelona with an attendance of 96.000 and then play the final in front of only 52.000!

The "problem" of semifinals at Sukru Saracoglu and Ali Sami Yen could be coped with by raising ticket prices. Then you round up the income with the final held in a bigger stadium (and Atatürk Olympiyat I think it provides the right capacity for a final).
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Old December 11th, 2012, 03:31 PM   #1223
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Yes but for a final you need a real high-capacity stadium!

You can't play for example a quarterfinal in Barcelona with an attendance of 96.000 and then play the final in front of only 52.000!

The "problem" of semifinals at Sukru Saracoglu and Ali Sami Yen could be coped with by raising ticket prices. Then you round up the income with the final held in a bigger stadium (and Atatürk Olympiyat I think it provides the right capacity for a final).
It's irrelevant anyway, as Platini has said today that no games will be held in Asia.
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Old December 11th, 2012, 03:34 PM   #1224
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It's irrelevant anyway, as Platini has said today that no games will be held in Asia.
So the only stadium exluded is Fenerbahçe's one!
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Old December 11th, 2012, 03:49 PM   #1225
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I still think taht london is the best option for the Final 4.
Istanbul is just to kiss up.
And IMO Turkey prefers to host the 2024 Euro. Therefore if they get the Finals, they cannot bid for the 2024 Euro.
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Old December 11th, 2012, 03:52 PM   #1226
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You are all worst than Platini. You are able to tell us that every match of euro should be hosted in 2 stadiums
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Old December 11th, 2012, 04:15 PM   #1227
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I still think taht london is the best option for the Final 4.
Istanbul is just to kiss up.
And IMO Turkey prefers to host the 2024 Euro. Therefore if they get the Finals, they cannot bid for the 2024 Euro.
Are you/we sure that it will only be for the 2020 edition? I hope it will be for every edition.
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You are all worst than Platini. You are able to tell us that every match of euro should be hosted in 2 stadiums
I'm not saying so.

Then, London is the only city in Europe that could host a tournament on its own!
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Old December 11th, 2012, 04:28 PM   #1229
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Are you/we sure that it will only be for the 2020 edition? I hope it will be for every edition.
Mr Infantino said that a number of reflections had led to the Executive Committee's decision. "Let me say that it is a decision only about 2020," he emphasised. "2020 is the 60th anniversary of the European Football Championship. Obviously the fact that the EURO [final round] will feature 24 teams instead of 16 puts an additional burden on countries to host such an event. It becomes much more difficult for many countries – the requirements are becoming bigger and bigger.
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Old December 11th, 2012, 05:18 PM   #1230
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It's irrelevant anyway, as Platini has said today that no games will be held in Asia.
What century is this dinosaur from?
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Old December 11th, 2012, 08:33 PM   #1231
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And the sixth group? Where did you leave it behind?
Apologies - I had in my mind that there were 20 teams, not 24.

Think there will be 19 stadiums

5 countries with 2 stadiums
9 countries with 1 stadium

5 groups of 4, with 3 stadiums per group

GROUP A
SPAIN
Camp Nou
Santiago Bernabéu

PORTUGAL
Estadio de Luz

GROUP B
ENGLAND
Wembley
Old Trafford

WALES
Millennium Stadium

GROUP C
FRANCE
Stade de France
Stade Velodrome

ITALY
San Siro

GROUP D
GERMANY
Olympiastadion
Allianz Arena

POLAND
Stadion Narodowy

GROUP E
TURKEY
Ataturk

GREECE
Olympic Stadium

ROMANIA
Bucharest Stadium

GROUP F
RUSSIA
Zenit Stadium
Luzhniki

UKRAINE
Olympiyskiy

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Old December 11th, 2012, 10:33 PM   #1232
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What century is this dinosaur from?
I would guess it was a reference to ruling out playing games in Japan, China etc, for more money, rather than saying no games in Turkey.
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Old December 12th, 2012, 12:37 AM   #1233
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Sercan, what about semifinal to be played in Izmir and Ankara and final in Istanbul? Obviously Izmir and Ankara would have to build up stadiums with >70.000 seats. On the other hand Ankara and Izmir will be able to host whatever UCL or UEL final after 2020 and other football events.

Antalya also could be a good alternative, especially because they already have a developed and busy airport, then tour operators could match the Euro Final Four with a seaside holiday.
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Old December 12th, 2012, 11:21 AM   #1234
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Honestly turks do not want to built big stadiums just because of "prestige".

Currently 24 new stadiums are u/c or proposed in Turkey and most of them are between 25,000-33,000.

There are plans for new stadiums in Izmir and Ankara. But the first aim is to built smaller ones.

Izmir:
New stadium for Karsiyaka SK (Northern club of the city) : 25,900 (approved)
New stadium for Göztepe SK (Southern club of the city) : 25,000 (plans/ideas)

Last phase is a new stadium for 40,000-45,000 for Altay SK aka main stadium of the city (Cup Final, national team or possible EURO etc)


Ankara:
Gençlerbirligi SK plans to built a new 20,000 stadium.
New 45,000 is planned for the current site.


As far as i understand the UEFA prefers just one city for the Final Four matches.

London is actually the best option.
60 years of EURO -> "love...peace...united....friendship...everything is ok" atmosphere
There shoulnd't be a problem to use the Rugby stadium in Twickenham
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In this post seems that you dislike the idea to go for the second-best (as Madonna used to sing in 1989 hit "Express Yourself")

If the Europewide Euro will be only in 2020 (so that Turkey can push to host 2024's edition) so I agree that London is the best choice!

But I think that Twickenham would be unavailable.

A final four in London would turn the green light on about the New White Hart Lane (56.250) in order to host one of the two semifinals. The other one obviously will be played at Ashburton Grove (Emirates Stadium - 60.355) finishing up at Wembley (90.000).
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If Istanbul hosts the Final four in 2020 than Turkey will not get the EURO 2024 .
We do not have the french connection


Honestly i would prefer Twickenham. Its big and IMO the final four atmoshere will attrac more fans.
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If Istanbul hosts the Final four in 2020 than Turkey will not get the EURO 2024 .
We do not have the french connection


Honestly i would prefer Twickenham. Its big and IMO the final four atmoshere will attrac more fans.
Me too! But it all depends if the RFU agree to host a football match on their ground!

OT: When's the kick-off of next Sunday's intercontinental derby? 19:00 UTC+2?
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Old December 12th, 2012, 01:45 PM   #1239
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The only problem at Twickenham could be the distance at football matches

Goal stands: ~22,5m and the other two ~13,5m




Kick-off is at 20:00 local time. So in Italy / Germany 19:00
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Old December 12th, 2012, 01:50 PM   #1240
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Why on earth would anybody want to hold euro 2020 games at twickenham with hundreds of real football stadiums around europe.
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