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Old February 10th, 2011, 01:56 AM   #2021
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Some of the routes (NE Corridor and California) look profitable but some look weird. How will Madison-Milwaukee make money? How will Kansas City-Saint Louis make money? Some of these seem not very well thought out but others definitely would work.
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Old February 10th, 2011, 01:57 AM   #2022
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Fighting 2 Wars that we don't need and are bogus... I want my tax $$$ to be spent in my country not over seas...
I have to agree with you here.

Honestly what benefit does the US have to gain from sending money to other corrupt countries in the Middle East/Africa/elsewhere?
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Old February 10th, 2011, 02:52 AM   #2023
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How will Madison-Milwaukee make money?

Madison-Milwaukee would make money as part of the line Chicago-Milwaukee-Madison-Minneapolis.

It would be the best thing to happen to Wisconsin and Minnesota in a long time (not counting the superbowl).
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Old February 10th, 2011, 05:52 AM   #2024
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Cutting any more money from defense is idiotic and insane at this point. Our military need more support to handle all the responsibilities they have. Fighting terrorism and keeping the Chinese in check aint cheap.
I'm reminded by Herman Goring's quote that "Guns will make us powerful; butter will only make us fat".
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Old February 10th, 2011, 10:26 AM   #2025
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We dont need wars, they are inevitable.

We have no choice.
Yes we do have a choice , although the Ego of this country prevents us form making the right decisions...
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Old February 10th, 2011, 10:31 AM   #2026
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I have to agree with you here.

Honestly what benefit does the US have to gain from sending money to other corrupt countries in the Middle East/Africa/elsewhere?
It forces those countries to buy US government bonds because there is no one else to buy the dollars as all other countries already have loads that the US has given them in trade. This lowers the yield on the bonds and makes borrowing cheaper for the US govt. Its a perk of being reserve currency #1.

Not saying this makes up for it 100% by any means though.
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Old February 10th, 2011, 07:06 PM   #2027
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Yes we do have a choice , although the Ego of this country prevents us form making the right decisions...
The "right" decisions of course being the ones you agree with.
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Old February 10th, 2011, 09:23 PM   #2028
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It forces those countries to buy US government bonds because there is no one else to buy the dollars as all other countries already have loads that the US has given them in trade. This lowers the yield on the bonds and makes borrowing cheaper for the US govt. Its a perk of being reserve currency #1.

Not saying this makes up for it 100% by any means though.
Nope. We fund those countries for one reason only: MILITARY STRATEGY. Most of our government bonds come from Europe, China, Japan and US Citizens. Very few comes from the Middle East and Africa
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Nope. We fund those countries for one reason only: MILITARY STRATEGY. Most of our government bonds come from Europe, China, Japan and US Citizens. Very few comes from the Middle East and Africa
NOPE again: We fund those countries primarily for humanitarian purposes in the HOPE that it will garner us some goodwill. Goodwill sometimes being welcomed military presence like in Saudi Arabia during gulf war days. Doesn't usually work very well, but I guess it makes Washington feel better.

To stay on thread.....53 borrowed billion for HSR at this point in time is, in the words of one GOP representative.....insane!
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Old February 11th, 2011, 03:04 AM   #2030
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Yes we do have a choice , although the Ego of this country prevents us form making the right decisions...
So we all end up being slaves to China. Ok.

Lets let those Arabs terrorize this country, and impose their religion on others. Lets do that.
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Old February 11th, 2011, 03:52 AM   #2031
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So we all end up being slaves to China. Ok.

Lets let those Arabs terrorize this country, and impose their religion on others. Lets do that.
Somebody sounds panariod.......listening to Fox news eh....
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Old February 11th, 2011, 04:29 AM   #2032
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The threat of China is very real. As an Asian, I know this.
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Old February 11th, 2011, 05:52 AM   #2033
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The threat of China is very real. As an Asian, I know this.
Ok, so you want to go to war with China?
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Old February 11th, 2011, 05:53 AM   #2034
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We wont have a war. Its more like another Cold War. We need to keep the balance of power...
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Old February 11th, 2011, 10:36 AM   #2035
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Nope. We fund those countries for one reason only: MILITARY STRATEGY. Most of our government bonds come from Europe, China, Japan and US Citizens. Very few comes from the Middle East and Africa
He didn't ask why, he asked what benefits there were....pay attention. Where do you think exactly all those petro-dollars end up? In US govt bonds. Result is the same, however complex the process.

Nonetheless, it does mean the cost of HSR is lower as the bonds are cheaper to service.
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Old February 11th, 2011, 06:15 PM   #2036
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What did I do? This thread is like Eschede back in 1998, the wheel is just about to break and afterwords all these frog people are going to bitch about articulated design and whatnot and how their trains are betterer and saferer in every possible aspect
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Old February 12th, 2011, 12:56 AM   #2037
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We wont have a war. Its more like another Cold War. We need to keep the balance of power...
With such atitude your gonna make friends in this world....

Oh wait... America is losing friends every day.... Better a Chinese in my kichen then an American fighter jet at a nearby airport.
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Old February 12th, 2011, 02:00 AM   #2038
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^Really? You clearly do not know the Chinese. China is a threat to everyone. China has to be kept in check.
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Old February 12th, 2011, 03:07 AM   #2039
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I think it's you who don't know "the Chinese" or "the Arabs". You have been infected by the Neocon disease, which sees everything and anything which they don't control or dictate as a "threat".

But hey, as long as you put up with crumbling infrastructure and falling education levels, we must have the latest war machines paid for by borrowed money from the Chinese/Japanese/Arabs!
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Old February 12th, 2011, 03:57 AM   #2040
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it isnt a BS. The threat is real. Very real. Chinese are very ambitious bunch. You know where they got the steretype of Asian parents? They want more power and more money and the Chinese government, while they dont want to physically take over, wants to impose their will on other countries and make others submit to their will. This is dangerous.

You are a fool if you just do nothing about the Arabs and hopefully the violence in the Middle East will end and not spread to Europe and North America. Not saying that Muslims are evil, but the Muslim extremists will kill more people. You cant make them go away by doing nothing.
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