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Old February 25th, 2012, 06:22 AM   #3041
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It' really impressive to see trains out in *Michigan* of all places finally running at some half decent speeds, where else are there plans for projects like this?
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Old February 25th, 2012, 09:29 AM   #3042
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100mph

is that door open on 0:10??
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Old February 27th, 2012, 01:59 AM   #3043
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Looks like it is.
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Old February 27th, 2012, 05:23 AM   #3044
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Hope in American railways... somewhat restored.

*Sees open door at 100 mph. Nevermind.
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Old February 27th, 2012, 05:50 AM   #3045
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90mph....



90-100mph

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Old February 27th, 2012, 10:59 AM   #3046
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Are you sure of these speeds, or it's only the consideration of the Youtube users? Speed is so easy to calculate counting the time that the train take to pass and dividing by it the length of the train.

I have my doubts with the last video.
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Old February 27th, 2012, 10:32 PM   #3047
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All those speeds strike me as exaggerated.
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Old February 28th, 2012, 12:22 AM   #3048
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Thats the max track speed , expresses and Amtrak hit it as you can see most of the trains do. Some seem slower , but rail fanners are not going to lie about speed. Speed barely gets u views on yt , unlike new trains and lines.
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Old February 28th, 2012, 09:22 PM   #3049
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I doubt N American exaggeration has ever been a secret
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Old February 29th, 2012, 07:17 AM   #3050
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I cycle over 30 mins each way to work and don't find it a massive hassle, there are shower facilities at work and lockers. If the facilities are there people will use them. It keeps me very fit, but I imagine Austin is quite a different climate though!
Yes, Austin can get really hot during spring and summer and the building I work in does not have showers.

I'm glad to see the line between Chicago and Detroit is getting a speed upgrade. Now if we can start electrifying our railroads that will even be more awesome. Most trains are diesel-electric, I wonder what it would take to convert them to -electric.
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Old March 17th, 2012, 09:21 PM   #3051
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once upon a time, catenary was virtually invisible
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Old March 19th, 2012, 06:03 PM   #3052
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Yes, Austin can get really hot during spring and summer and the building I work in does not have showers.

I'm glad to see the line between Chicago and Detroit is getting a speed upgrade. Now if we can start electrifying our railroads that will even be more awesome. Most trains are diesel-electric, I wonder what it would take to convert them to -electric.
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Old March 31st, 2012, 02:58 AM   #3053
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Hark! HSTs actually going clickety-clack


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Old March 31st, 2012, 03:42 AM   #3054
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Old April 1st, 2012, 11:04 AM   #3055
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High-speed rail plan slashes costs to calm critics
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Sunday, April 1, 2012

State transportation officials have slashed the price tag for California's controversial high-speed rail project by $30 billion and expanded the first stretch of track to run from Merced in the Central Valley south to the San Fernando Valley in Los Angeles.

The California High Speed Rail Authority's revised business plan, which will be released Monday in Fresno, calls for those dramatic changes as the agency prepares to ask the Legislature to use $2.7 billion in state high-speed rail bonds to start construction by early next year.

The drastic revision, which puts the proposed cost of the system at $68.4 billion instead of the $98.5 billion estimated in November, intends to cool opposition to the project . . . . It relies heavily on what officials have called a "blended approach" that uses existing commuter rail lines - including Caltrain - in the Bay Area and Los Angeles.

That shift, authority board members said Saturday, is largely responsible for the cost savings because it eliminates the need to build separate tracks for high-speed rail through dense metropolitan areas . . . .

Gov. Jerry Brown's office has made the rail project eligible to use anticipated cap-and-trade revenues, which will be used as a backstop if other revenues don't come in when needed.

For the Bay Area, the new business plan means the authority will pay about half the $1.5 billion cost of electrifying the Caltrain system from San Jose to San Francisco. The long-planned electrification project, which will speed commuter trains and allow high-speed trains to share the tracks, could be completed by 2019. But the business plan's decision to head to Los Angeles first means high-speed trains won't arrive in the Bay Area until 2026 at the earliest . . . .

Under the new plan, construction still will start with the 130-mile Central Valley stretch, then continue north to Merced and south to Palmdale, crossing the Tehachapis with a series of tunnels and viaducts. It could reach both destinations by 2020. Extending the line to Burbank will take two more years.

. . . the updated plan also calls for the authority to invest in improvements that include advanced signaling systems and elimination of street-level railroad crossings on the Altamont Commuter Express and Amtrak San Joaquin trains, which would allow them to increase speeds and haul passengers to Merced faster . . . .

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Old April 1st, 2012, 03:32 PM   #3056
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Probably someone up thread already commented on this (no time to read 144 pages), but being fairly familiar with HSR projects in Europe, I am amazed both about the unnaturally high price tag for this Californian scheme and even more about the choice of the first stretch. Merced to Bakersfield and no San Francisco till late 20-ties at best??? That's just brain-dead... Who is going to use that? HSR works best when connecting large cities with already a heavy traffic between them (Paris-Lyon-Marseille, Madrid-Barcelona, Paris-London etc)...

If I was a Californian official in charge of this and without enough money to go from LA to San Franciso (although 60 billion ought to be enough) then I would build LA-San Diego first. Two large cities, probably enough existing traffic between them and much closer. A well built HSR (paralleling I-5) would reach one city from the other in about 50 min with a single stop in Anaheim. Would be an excellent demonstration project for HSR in USA. I believe it takes at least 2 h to drive this route. Asking Californian government to be smart with taxpayers money is asking too much, I guess.
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Old April 1st, 2012, 09:08 PM   #3057
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If memory serves, part of the reason for the start of construction in the middle of the state is time. Some part of the legislation that is giving California enough money to build the system requires that construction starts before a certain date, and the environmental review process can obviously go much quicker in the relatively low-density Central Valley than it can in either the Bay Area or LA. Another potential problem is that instead of building brand new tracks for HSR in San Francisco, they've decided to upgrade the current Caltrain tracks; again, part of the legislation required a completely new system. There's actually been concerns that this may make the recent changes by the CAHSRA illegal.

All this info is from a link or two posted on Transportation Nation, but I can't find them right now. I may also be mis-remembering things, if anyone wants to correct me.
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Old April 1st, 2012, 10:03 PM   #3058
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Foolish how America's HSR discussions skirt restructuring its passé civil aviation practices ...
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Old April 1st, 2012, 10:08 PM   #3059
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All this info is from a link or two posted on Transportation Nation, but I can't find them right now. I may also be mis-remembering things, if anyone wants to correct me.
The California High Speed Rail Blog should tell you everything you want to know.
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Old April 1st, 2012, 11:03 PM   #3060
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See what I mean? Private enterprise not daring to tread on civil aviators' toes throughout their promo while harping on about petrol coupled to visual streams of automobile traffic, and summing up by advising viewers to write to their elected politicians.

One 'American' dream that'll never come to be (What's this "electrified trains", "electified trains" business? )
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