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View Poll Results: Should the US build or improve it's HSR network?
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Old April 20th, 2012, 04:28 AM   #3121
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Failed to note that other branches of NJT commuter rail goes through that part of the NEC and diverge somewhere south. And rush hour part.

Have never really ridden NJT or Amtrak during rush hour.
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Old April 21st, 2012, 04:28 PM   #3122
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What is currently the maximum speed of Acela (in metric)? And is there any plan to extend or its network, or introduce high speed service on west coast?
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Old April 22nd, 2012, 02:50 AM   #3123
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What is currently the maximum speed of Acela (in metric)? And is there any plan to extend or its network, or introduce high speed service on west coast?
About 240 km/h.

There are some really early stage proposals to upgrade the NEC, but I don't think the Acela's route will be lengthened.

California HSR is supposed to be groundbreaking in the next couple of years.
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Old April 22nd, 2012, 07:50 AM   #3125
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About 240 km/h.

There are some really early stage proposals to upgrade the NEC, but I don't think the Acela's route will be lengthened.

California HSR is supposed to be groundbreaking in the next couple of years.
The Next Gen NEC will add 260 miles by 2050....which means the Acela or Next Gen Acela will have a longer route...and faster up to 220mph....in New England on its own ROW and 180-200mph along the upgraded NEC.
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Old April 22nd, 2012, 11:26 AM   #3126
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The Next Gen NEC will add 260 miles by 2050....which means the Acela or Next Gen Acela will have a longer route...and faster up to 220mph....in New England on its own ROW and 180-200mph along the upgraded NEC.
If that ever gets approved by congress. The politicking over HSR and rail projects in general is immensely frustrating.
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Old April 22nd, 2012, 12:47 PM   #3127
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The Next Gen NEC will add 260 miles by 2050....which means the Acela or Next Gen Acela will have a longer route...and faster up to 220mph....in New England on its own ROW and 180-200mph along the upgraded NEC.
That would be so nice, having ridden 220mph trains several times and I have to say you can really tell the difference between that and a regular 125mph train.
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Old April 22nd, 2012, 08:10 PM   #3128
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If that ever gets approved by congress. The politicking over HSR and rail projects in general is immensely frustrating.

The goal is 2050 , so i do see it getting built....
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Old April 23rd, 2012, 02:23 AM   #3129
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Administration Unveils High-Speed Rail-Car Push
April 20, 2012, 11:21 p.m. ET

The U.S. government on Friday unveiled a fresh effort to kick-start its high-speed railroad project, unveiling a proposal to fund and build new passenger cars for the states that are progressing with the project.

The Department of Transportation said it was looking to buy around 130 new rail cars that would be operated in up to seven states that have signed up to pursue high-speed rail lines run by government-owned rail operator Amtrak, with two-thirds of them used in the Midwest and the rest in California.

The department plans to award the $551 million rail-car contract in October—initial bids are due next month—stipulating that all assembly, parts and materials have to be made in the U.S. . . . .
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB2000...=ITP_pageone_2
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Old April 23rd, 2012, 02:40 AM   #3130
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The goal is 2050 , so i do see it getting built....
The goal is 2050 assuming it starts within the next few years. Much though I want it to happen, and it needs to/should, I've not got my hopes up.
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Old April 23rd, 2012, 05:24 AM   #3131
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The goal is 2050 assuming it starts within the next few years. Much though I want it to happen, and it needs to/should, I've not got my hopes up.
Amtrak has it in Phases , the big stuff won't get built intill the late 2030s-2040s...but the small Capacity and Current NEC upgrades should be done by 2030. The 2030 Plans shave off an hour between Boston and DC , the Next Gen plan reduces that to just 2 and a half hours. Alot of Northeastern Rail expansions have a goal of 2030 for the Major routes and the system have been prepping for that with capacity and system upgrades... The 2030 plans are easy to do , and are around the NYC region , and Baltimore...
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Old April 23rd, 2012, 06:18 AM   #3132
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The goal is 2050 assuming it starts within the next few years. Much though I want it to happen, and it needs to/should, I've not got my hopes up.
add another 150 years of lawsuits....
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Old May 11th, 2012, 10:28 PM   #3133
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High-speed rail sets Valley route, gets $1 billion offer
By Tim Sheehan - The Fresno Bee
Friday, May. 04, 2012 | 12:32 AM

The California High-Speed Rail Authority took a key step toward developing its proposed passenger-train system Thursday, certifying environmental reports and formally approving the first portion of the line between Merced and Fresno.

Skeptics remain even as the authority pushes forward on building as soon as this year. But Thursday, a new booster stepped forward -- Madera real-estate developer Ed McIntyre, who said that he and partners are ready to spend $1 billion developing a maintenance yard and more if the authority puts it on their property in Madera.

McIntyre told the board before its vote that his group believes high-speed rail pencils out as a money-maker. In his group's case, he said, they're certain they can secure financing and recoup their investment through a lease-buy deal with the authority.

Thursday's votes at the authority's board meeting in Fresno locks in the route choice -- a hybrid line that follows portions of two different rail lines through the San Joaquin Valley -- and clears the way for the authority to award construction contracts after bids are received later this year.

It also allows the agency to start negotiating with property owners along the route for buying rights of way and determining other types of compensation for potential losses . . . .

The federal government has pledged about $3.3 billion to California to start building a 120-mile stretch from Madera to Bakersfield -- part of the 520-mile system that would connect San Francisco and Los Angeles. But that money depends on the state putting up $2.7 billion from Proposition 1A, a bond measure approved by voters in 2008.

"If the Legislature doesn't authorize the issuance of $2.7 billion, we have more than a casual difficulty in how to move the project forward because it puts in jeopardy the money from the feds," Richards said Thursday . . . .

Read more here: http://www.fresnobee.com/2012/05/03/...#storylink=cpy
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Old May 11th, 2012, 11:12 PM   #3134
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When I was in California there was much especulation about the funds and all that is required to make it happen, but it was only that................China already beat us on that.
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Old May 12th, 2012, 01:34 AM   #3135
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Just considering the sheer momentum behind the project at this moment, California seems the most likely to happen out of all the genuine HSR projects in the U.S., though that probably says more about how ridiculously hard it's been to progress than anything else.
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Just considering the sheer momentum behind the project at this moment, California seems the most likely to happen out of all the genuine HSR projects in the U.S., though that probably says more about how ridiculously hard it's been to progress than anything else.
This is really going to be up to the Central Valley folks described in the article. That is the heart of Republican California and if it is to be blocked, they'd be doing it. That's why, I think, they are to be the first to see dirt fly even though some mock it as the "railroad to nowhere." So I'm glad to see it has some enthusiastic support out there.
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Old May 12th, 2012, 03:40 AM   #3137
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How dynamic of an economic center is Chowchilla (how is that even pronounced lol)? I know Fresno is a fast decaying area, though it has an university.
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Old May 12th, 2012, 08:10 AM   #3138
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Chowchilla is the proposed area for a junction, which with high speed rail takes up some space. I would think the size its economy is a minor consideration.

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Old May 15th, 2012, 03:52 AM   #3139
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Dallas Star found some hopeful news:

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$10 Billion Bullet Train on Track in Texas
Thursday, 10 May 2012 09:46 AM

By Robert Engler

An international investment group plans to put up $10 billion to build a 220-mph bullet train connecting Dallas and Houston, according to the Fort Worth Star-Telegram.

The investors, led by Central Japan Railway Co., say they will not seek any state or federal funds to operate the high-speed rail line, which could be running by 2020, the Star-Telegram reported Wednesday.

Instead, the group plans to recover its investment through rider fares, which would be competitive with the cost of air travel between the two cities.
“It is a highly capital-intensive project, but we believe it is commercially viable,” said former Harris County Judge Robert Eckels, one of several Texans in the group and president of Texas Central Railway, a Japanese-U.S. partnership.

The Dallas-to-Houston, high-speed line would be the first in the United States capable of the triple-digit speeds that trains in Europe and Asia reach.
Amtrak’s Acela, the fastest passenger train in the United States, reaches a maximum speed of 68 mph on its route between New York City and Washington, D.C.
http://www.newsmax.com/US/rail-high-...5/10/id/438609
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