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Old April 29th, 2013, 06:39 PM   #4141
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Normally I'm a big supporter of rail, including high speed, however I don't believe one should be built at any cost. California project's costs are spiralling out of control plus I think they are starting to build it from the wrong end. I fear there is a potential for this to be such an enormous white elephant that it will kill all other HSR rail project in the US for few more decades. Particularly if only the initial segments are built at huge cost and marginal utility...

Maybe it's better to start from the beginning and with something more modest. LA-San Diego at 140 mph perhaps?
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Old April 29th, 2013, 07:39 PM   #4142
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Maybe they should rename the CAHSR project the National HSR Defense Network Pilot Project- you know, something kickass sounding and patriotic to appeal to the red meat eaters. Hey, it worked for the interstate system
Plus it should evoke a spirit of nostalgia for an idealised rose-tinted past rememberence of patriotic rail projects. Therefore, ladies and gentlemen, I bring you:

FREEDOM TRAIN 2000


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Old April 30th, 2013, 05:18 AM   #4143
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Plus it should evoke a spirit of nostalgia for an idealised rose-tinted past rememberence of patriotic rail projects. Therefore, ladies and gentlemen, I bring you:

FREEDOM TRAIN 2000


Construction approved!
Only that anti-rail folks have pounded it into the public that trains are anything but "free."
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Old May 2nd, 2013, 01:15 AM   #4144
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Only that anti-rail folks have pounded it into the public that trains are anything but "free."
How can it not be free? I mean it'll be painted with a huge stars and strikes, and the PA chimes will be "Hail to the Chief" and everything. That's pure 100% AMERICAN, and nothing's freer than America, right?

Maybe the F&B cart could sell hotdogs too... I like hotdogs
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Old May 25th, 2013, 08:23 PM   #4145
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Old May 30th, 2013, 03:15 PM   #4146
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Voters would never approve just an LA-SD rail line. They'd all be "what's in it for me?" mode and vote against it.

In order to get votes they had to propose a system that served all the major population centers.

And I have no problem with them starting construction where they did. Starting it anywhere else leaves open the possibility of politicians cutting off funds once the tracks are out of their metropolitan area. By building towards those areas from the center the politicians need to keep funds flowing until it reaches them by which time, if they try to cut off funds, most of it is now built.
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Old May 31st, 2013, 10:55 AM   #4147
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Are the Amtrak has also plan to replace all diesel locomotive that they use for how many decades and the amfleet coaches they have plan to procure a new once?
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Old May 31st, 2013, 11:29 AM   #4148
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It all depends on funding, something that Amtrak can never be sure of, being the political football it is.
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Old June 2nd, 2013, 12:58 AM   #4149
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Legal War Could Muck Up Summer Bullet Train Groundbreaking



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It's no surprise that the California high-speed rail is an ambitious project with lots of hurdles--at about $69 billion it's one of the largest infrastructure projects in the country--but it's facing an especially big one right now. Executives with the California High-Speed Rail Authority were in court on Friday, facing down a challenge from Bay Area and Central Valley opponents who claim the train's current iteration violates the 2008 bond measure that voters passed to help fund the project (they say rail authorities can't guarantee the train can run without subsidies nor can it guarantee a 2 hour, 40 minute ride from LA to SF), the Daily News reports. Other legal claims have been tossed but this is the first case that challenges the bond measure to make it to court; luckily, a decision could come down next week.

But if it doesn't go well for the CHSRA, the groundbreaking date could be thrown into limbo, and during Friday's testimony, rail officials admitted they will likely miss their July groundbreaking date because of other issues. The hope now is for late summer and you can blame several factors: eminent domain related to property owners refusing to sell their land, negotiations with contractor Tudor Perini, which is building the line's first track in the Central Valley, and a bureaucratic snafu related to a late application sent to the federal Surface Transportation Board. Regardless, rail authorities remain bullish on a summer start to work--should the trial go their way.

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Old June 2nd, 2013, 03:06 AM   #4150
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Stupid NIMBYs.
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Old June 2nd, 2013, 03:20 AM   #4151
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Please tell me not all trains will stop at all those stations in/around Los Angeles.
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Old June 2nd, 2013, 08:00 AM   #4152
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Old June 2nd, 2013, 01:16 PM   #4153
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Not going by Madison just doesn't make sense.
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Old June 2nd, 2013, 02:44 PM   #4154
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Not going by Madison just doesn't make sense.
Well they shouldn't have killed it the first time....
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Old June 3rd, 2013, 01:09 AM   #4155
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Well they shouldn't have killed it the first time....
I know... gotta love the Tea Party politics.
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Old June 3rd, 2013, 07:13 PM   #4156
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I know... gotta love the Tea Party politics.
At this point, I'm literally down on my knees hoping the Dems can scrounge a majority in both houses next year...not because of partisan desire, but because I'm desperate to see transportation funding pushed through
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Old June 4th, 2013, 12:02 AM   #4157
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We'll be lucky if this high speed train is built by 2050 with the cost 5 times that of proposed and an average of 200km/hr. Public engineering in this country is there to create job, not to finish project on time and within budget.
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We'll be lucky if this high speed train is built by 2050 with the cost 5 times that of proposed and an average of 200km/hr. Public engineering in this country is there to create job, not to finish project on time and within budget.
I bet that the main sections (California, northeast, Texas, Chicago area) will be mostly (if not completely) done by 2025
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Old June 8th, 2013, 08:19 PM   #4159
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Old June 8th, 2013, 09:39 PM   #4160
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Why are they going to make Madeira- Fresno line? I think that San Francisco- LA will be more profitable, won't it?
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