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Old June 17th, 2013, 10:33 PM   #4181
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Northern California is not all California.

And no, certainly Spain is not the most beautiful country in Europe. Not to me, at least.
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Old June 17th, 2013, 10:41 PM   #4182
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California NIMBYs are a clever bunch who will recast reality to suit their agenda. The Central Valley has beautiful stretches but it's no Yosemite. NIMBYs will deploy every trick and false argument in the book. Inb4 they complain about animal collisions and riparian habitat destruction...in Fresno!
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Old June 17th, 2013, 10:53 PM   #4183
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What is pretty and what is not is very individual. I like the combination of mountains, sea, good climate and old culture so for me the Mediterranean coastal areas are the most beautiful in Europe. But of course I accept that other people might prefer big and dynamic cities like London or Paris or the greater orderliness of German speaking countries or even the quite beauty (and absence of people) of the far North.
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Old June 17th, 2013, 10:53 PM   #4184
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California NIMBYs are a clever bunch who will recast reality to suit their agenda. The Central Valley has beautiful stretches but it's no Yosemite. NIMBYs will deploy every trick and false argument in the book. Inb4 they complain about animal collisions and riparian habitat destruction...in Fresno!
Well, animal collisions exist. That is true.

Birds in particular.

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What is pretty and what is not is very individual. I like the combination of mountains, sea, good climate and old culture so for me the Mediterranean coastal areas are the most beautiful in Europe. But of course I accept that other people might prefer big and dynamic cities like London or Paris or the greater orderliness of German speaking countries or even the quite beauty (and absence of people) of the far North.
To give you an idea, my European ranking would be:

1-Greece
2-Norway
3-Italy
4-Switzerland
5-France

And in the US:

1-Montana
2-Idaho
3-Arizona
4-New York
5-Washington state
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Old June 18th, 2013, 07:49 PM   #4185
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What is pretty and what is not is very individual. I like the combination of mountains, sea, good climate and old culture so for me the Mediterranean coastal areas are the most beautiful in Europe. But of course I accept that other people might prefer big and dynamic cities like London or Paris or the greater orderliness of German speaking countries or even the quite beauty (and absence of people) of the far North.
I love all of that + a nice 30m tall viaduct and electric pylons on top.


On another note, regarding the track system, do you think CHSR will go with ballasted sleepers or slab track? Probably ballast, to save immediate costs.
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Old June 18th, 2013, 08:35 PM   #4186
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I don´t think it should... but it´s just a personal impression. I´d go for slab track.

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Northern California is not all California.

And no, certainly Spain is not the most beautiful country in Europe. Not to me, at least.
And do you think only Northern California is pretty? , Southern, and Central California are beautiful than most states.
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Well, animal collisions exist. That is true.

Birds in particular.



To give you an idea, my European ranking would be:

1-Greece
2-Norway
3-Italy
4-Switzerland
5-France

And in the US:

1-Montana
2-Idaho
3-Arizona
4-New York
5-Washington state
Arizona, NY, Idaho, Montana more beautiful than CA?
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Old June 22nd, 2013, 10:40 PM   #4189
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To give you an idea, my European ranking would be:

1-Greece
2-Norway
3-Italy
4-Switzerland
5-France
I've never been in the first two, not that I would argue about taste anyway. Not sure which country I'd put at the top of my list - maybe Italy. There are still plenty of places I've never been to...

My favourite cities in Europe - Istanbul, Rome, Vienna and Barcelona.

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And in the US:

1-Montana
2-Idaho
3-Arizona
4-New York
5-Washington state
This is a very unusual list (I've been in all five). You must be heavily into nature and even in that case Utah or Colorado might be better. I was in Idaho and Montana two years ago - rather boring places with larges areas of pretty much nothing. Wyoming with Yellowstone and Grand Tetons national park has a lot more to offer. And I stand for my previous statement that California is among the best places US has to offer. On the other hand most of the states East of the Mississippi are rather boring...
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Old June 25th, 2013, 05:48 AM   #4190
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We keep on hearing that the route into Los Angeles will be very steep. How steep exactly are we talking about? 2%? 3%?
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Old June 25th, 2013, 08:45 AM   #4191
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With curent proposal via Antelope valley - 3,3%

HSR don't care that much about steepness, it care about curves, while freight is vice versa.
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Old June 26th, 2013, 06:06 AM   #4192
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http://w3.usa.siemens.com/mobility/u...-sprinter.aspx
According to the tracking feature on the new official Siemens USA page, locomotive 602 should be in Wilmington, DE before the July 4th weekend. Happy hunting to those along the route.
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Old June 26th, 2013, 09:27 AM   #4193
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California is beautiful in December-January-Feberary-March-April, rest of the time it's just brown, well, most of California anyways.
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Old June 30th, 2013, 07:46 AM   #4194
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Lol! What an extremely broad statement.
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Old July 1st, 2013, 04:16 AM   #4195
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California is beautiful in December-January-Feberary-March-April, rest of the time it's just brown, well, most of California anyways.
I thought it was pretty nice in July..... but that's just me
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Old July 9th, 2013, 09:06 AM   #4196
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An older article from June 13, 2013:



California high-speed rail gets a green light


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WASHINGTON -- California’s high-speed rail project can start rolling without waiting for potentially time-consuming approvals from a federal board, officials ruled Thursday.

In a victory for the project that’s faced repeated political obstacles, a divided Surface Transportation Board ruled 2-1 that the California High-Speed Rail Authority can begin construction on its own. The initial 65-mile stretch between Fresno and Merced will be exempt from the customary requirement that railway construction first obtain prior approval from the federal board, under the ruling.

“We need not revisit the determinations on the viability and desirability of the project already made by…various federal state and local government interests, all of which have a stake in the matter,” the board’s majority stated. “The information before us confirms that the project would be a valuable addition to the passenger rail transportation system.”

Jeff Morales, chief executive officer of the high-speed rail authority, said in a statement that it welcomed the board’s decision.

“We can now focus on starting major work on the project this summer and providing thousands of jobs in the Central Valley,” he said.

Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/2013/06/13/549...#storylink=cpy
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High Desert Corridor Could Link Bullet Train Up With Vegas



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The latest plans for the High Desert Corridor--a freeway/rail/bike path/green energy project linking Palmdale to Apple Valley in San Bernadino County--were unveiled yesterday, with several options for the 63-mile project to be discussed at a series of public hearings this month. The options include a freeway-only version, but our friends at Streetsblog are particularly excited about how the rail option has evolved. As they explain, one option "would run a rail line in the median of the new freeway that could serve Metrolink, a new 'High Desert Corridor' specialty service, California High Speed Rail (CAHSR) trains or Xpress," the privately-funded high-speed rail line to Las Vegas.

Since CAHSR is due to run to Palmdale and Xpress only to Victorville, this new rail line could link the two stations, making it possible (theoretically, anyway) to travel from Downtown LA or San Francisco to Las Vegas on one high-speed rail line. "Theoretically" is key here: the project is funded only through the environmental review process. Preliminary costs to build the whole thing run to $5 billion, and a best-case scenario puts work beginning in 2016, according to the Daily News. It will likely require private investment to make it all feasible, so to sweeten the pot, a money-making tollway is also an option.
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http://www.xpresswest.com/network.html
Not sure what the heck this is, but the Xpress West system is already planned to continue on to Palmdale and link up with Metrolink and CAHSR.
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Isn't Xpress West a private enterprise and therefore anything but realistic?
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XPressWest want to operate "HSR-style" EMU's in its lines? Why don't use gas-turbine trainsets or high-speed diesel-electric multiple-unit as Bombardier Voyager?


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