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Old November 2nd, 2014, 06:18 AM   #5001
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The day the Acela takes 90 mins up to NYC is the day I eat my hat.
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Old November 2nd, 2014, 06:38 AM   #5002
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So I've started to make improvements for the Acela on this map, tell me what you think so far.
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Old November 2nd, 2014, 03:27 PM   #5003
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Nice map.

(can't see it, though)
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Old November 2nd, 2014, 03:35 PM   #5004
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of course yes
why not?
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Old November 2nd, 2014, 06:11 PM   #5005
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Oh Yeah

https://mapsengine.google.com/map/ed...I.kuG4LzpoDAH0
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Old November 2nd, 2014, 06:13 PM   #5006
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Never will happen , to expensive and would slice up a rich part of the state along with gaining very little in time savings.
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Old November 2nd, 2014, 06:21 PM   #5007
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Never will happen , to expensive and would slice up a rich part of the state along with gaining very little in time savings.
Yeah, maybe some wont work, but I know one, or 2 will, such as the one just west of Kingston. There is literally nothing in the way there. Also, Even if they have to go through some of the houses, the cost to replace/buy them will probably be a drop in the bucket. Also, I believe that it could gain a good amount of time savings, considering how slow the train already goes through Connecticut.

P.S. I've just done dome in Maryland, where the area is cheaper, and more sparsely populated. I bet The Aberdeen Straightener could go through.
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Old November 2nd, 2014, 06:45 PM   #5008
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http://www.amtrak.com/ccurl/453/325/...t-Corridor.pdf
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I've added in a few more changes
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Old November 3rd, 2014, 12:42 AM   #5010
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That's no "Harrowgate" man.

That's Frankford Junction and the Frankford Cutoff.

You've got the alignment slightly off, though.

Do you see the line of warehouses along the south side of Erie Avenue just north of your route?

THAT, my friend is the right of way for a cut-off purchased by the Pennsylvania Railroad in the 1930s, and inherited by Amtrak in the 70s with the rest of the NEC. The whole alignment is completely owned by Amtrak, no purchases necessary.

Yeah. And they STILL haven't built the proposed route.


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Old November 3rd, 2014, 01:06 AM   #5011
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That's no "Harrowgate" man.

That's Frankford Junction and the Frankford Cutoff.

You've got the alignment slightly off, though.

Do you see the line of warehouses along the south side of Erie Avenue just north of your route?

THAT, my friend is the right of way for a cut-off purchased by the Pennsylvania Railroad in the 1930s, and inherited by Amtrak in the 70s with the rest of the NEC. The whole alignment is completely owned by Amtrak, no purchases necessary.

Yeah. And they STILL haven't built the proposed route.


Now that is just SAD

Also, did I edit it correctly?
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Old November 3rd, 2014, 01:28 AM   #5012
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Now just re-name it Frankford Cutoff and everything will be perfect there.

It's worth noting that the Delaware River Levee is rather unlikely to happen. The curves are relatively gentle, and the way the river is there makes it tough to fill in, not to mention the political backlash from something (it's unenvironmental) similar to what happened with the Westway in Manhattan.
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Old November 3rd, 2014, 01:31 AM   #5013
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Good job. With all those improvements, what do you think the average speed will be between NYC-WAS?
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Good job. With all those improvements, what do you think the average speed will be between NYC-WAS?
Depends, I'm hoping they can make them (and the straights around them 160 mph.
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Old November 3rd, 2014, 01:54 AM   #5015
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Not fast enough until they fix those **** tunnels in Baltimore.

The Union Tunnel and the B&P are both substandard.

They also need to replace Portal Bridge and a ton of bridges in Maryland.

Thankfully, ALL of these century-old items are high on the to-do list.
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Not fast enough until they fix those **** tunnels in Baltimore.

The Union Tunnel and the B&P are both substandard.

They also need to replace Portal Bridge and a ton of bridges in Maryland.

Thankfully, ALL of these century-old items are high on the to-do list.
To be Fair, the neighborhoods above the tunnels have some AWESOME architecture!!
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Old November 3rd, 2014, 02:17 AM   #5017
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The Amtrak plan for 2040 shows the alignment going up towards Danbury. So, they have ruled out the LI alignment then or is that another plan. I'm confused.

It also shows that by 2025 the upgarded NEC will allow NY to Washington in 2:15 mins or so, a decrease of around 30 mins from today. Not bad, not great.

What exactly prevents them from going faster than 160mph on straight and upgraded/modern track in the NEC?. Is that a regulation due to shared track or is it due to the rolling stock not being able to reach that speed?

What is strange is that the time difference between the upgraded NEC at final build and the brand new "NEXTGEN" HSR is only 40mins. Is 40 mins really worth 50 billion?

Also, the money for this is going to tough to get. Amtrak funding was just cut by the house and there is no money for all this in the budget.

Maglev with the JR involved (helping pay for some of it) and private investors could be a better option than this NextGen HSR option as the speeds would be much better -- NYC=WAS in an hour.. Washington could be a commuter city for NYC, Phil, etc.
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Old November 3rd, 2014, 02:39 AM   #5018
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The Amtrak plan for 2040 shows the alignment going up towards Danbury. So, they have ruled out the LI alignment then or is that another plan. I'm confused.

It also shows that by 2025 the upgarded NEC will allow NY to Washington in 2:15 mins or so, a decrease of around 30 mins from today. Not bad, not great.

What exactly prevents them from going faster than 160mph on straight and upgraded/modern track in the NEC?. Is that a regulation due to shared track or is it due to the rolling stock not being able to reach that speed?

What is strange is that the time difference between the upgraded NEC at final build and the brand new "NEXTGEN" HSR is only 40mins. Is 40 mins really worth 50 billion?

Also, the money for this is going to tough to get. Amtrak funding was just cut by the house and there is no money for all this in the budget.

Maglev with the JR involved (helping pay for some of it) and private investors could be a better option than this NextGen HSR option as the speeds would be much better -- NYC=WAS in an hour.. Washington could be a commuter city for NYC, Phil, etc.
The Amtrak plan is silly compared to the various FRA plans which do have more power to them. The FRA controls the funding for these plans and overseas them...they also hold meetings... You can see all the various proposals below...

http://www.necfuture.com/pdfs/prelim_alts_report.pdf
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Just build a second line dedicated for HSR that only stops in DC, Philly, NYC and Boston. If people want to stop in the other cities, take the existing NEC. Why do people have to make things so damn difficult?
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Just build a second line dedicated for HSR that only stops in DC, Philly, NYC and Boston. If people want to stop in the other cities, take the existing NEC. Why do people have to make things so damn difficult?
Because those other cities are important and drive the Regional Economy....there will be a super express that skips the secondary cities....
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