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Old November 20th, 2014, 09:14 AM   #5081
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All Aboard Florida intercity passenger rail project route South Florida to Orlando

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Old November 21st, 2014, 09:08 AM   #5082
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UNITED STATES | High Speed Rail

With regards to potential HSR in NY, just wanted to remark that I hate the idea of HSR going around the city of Utica. With a beautiful station and heavy usage on the current Lake Shore Limited and Maple Leaf services why would they shortchange an already distressed area by making them (and myself 1/2 the time) either drive an hour to the airport or another train station? It's details like this that need to have more public input, whether it's for this city or Yonkers, or anywhere else.

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Old November 22nd, 2014, 12:21 AM   #5083
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Yes, that's because the Texas project has to pay dividends to its investors, while the CA project has its nose in the public trough.
Ha, but will the investors find it profitable enough, we shall see.
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Old November 22nd, 2014, 01:54 PM   #5084
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With regards to potential HSR in NY, just wanted to remark that I hate the idea of HSR going around the city of Utica. With a beautiful station and heavy usage on the current Lake Shore Limited and Maple Leaf services why would they shortchange an already distressed area by making them (and myself 1/2 the time) either drive an hour to the airport or another train station? It's details like this that need to have more public input, whether it's for this city or Yonkers, or anywhere else.
I wouldn't be too upset about any current plans for an Empire Corridor upgrade. Right now, they're super-duper preliminary, and many, many years in the future. I've taken the Lake Shore Limited a number of times, and, like you, I can hardly imagine a line going through New York that didn't stop at Utica. We just have to wait and see what happens with that plan.

Hopefully something, and I'm also hoping for something with the line from Boston heading west to Albany; that ancient, curvy track is always a source of slowdown during the trip.
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Old November 22nd, 2014, 05:44 PM   #5085
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Yes, that's because the Texas project has to pay dividends to its investors, while the CA project has its nose in the public trough.
Yes well, pardon my ignorance but is that Texan project still alive and moving ahead? I checked their website and the newest "news items" that I can find are almost two years old.
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Old November 22nd, 2014, 06:14 PM   #5086
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Yes they are doing the environmental review right now. Actually 2 environmental reviews one for the Dallas to Houston line and another for the Fort Worth, Arlington, to Dallas line. As long as Texas doesn't f*** it up then they should be able to get at least one HSR line.
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Old November 22nd, 2014, 06:25 PM   #5087
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I've heard that the major problem now is the purchase of land with them having obtained only a bit more than half of what they need. That seems to also be the new tactic of rail opponents. Delay as much as possible and hope that funding runs out.

This project still has more than 50/50 chance of happening (between Madera and Bakersfield only), but it's not a done deal yet. Particularly with the results of recent elections. Republicans made huge gains and most of them are ideologically opposed to public transport.
If they successfully make the project to halt by running out the funding, it's really stupid that money is spent with nothing in return. Citizens lose their tax money, convenient way to travel and better air quality with less pollutant from cars.
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Old November 24th, 2014, 09:50 AM   #5088
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Is there a way for normal rail to maintain an average speed of around 75-85 mph in order to be competitive with driving a car?
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Old November 24th, 2014, 09:51 AM   #5089
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Yes they are doing the environmental review right now. Actually 2 environmental reviews one for the Dallas to Houston line and another for the Fort Worth, Arlington, to Dallas line. As long as Texas doesn't f*** it up then they should be able to get at least one HSR line.
Maybe they should just try their luck with regular rail line that can be faster or at least the same with driving a car.
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Old November 24th, 2014, 03:43 PM   #5090
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Maybe they should just try their luck with regular rail line that can be faster or at least the same with driving a car.
No one is going to take the train if it takes the same amount of time as driving. It has to be significantly faster.
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Old November 24th, 2014, 06:34 PM   #5091
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Unless we offer some economic incentives... i.e. price gas sanely.
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Old November 24th, 2014, 06:38 PM   #5092
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Is there a way for normal rail to maintain an average speed of around 75-85 mph in order to be competitive with driving a car?
Yeah, if it stops once or twice and not in every town with a population over 5,000.
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Old November 26th, 2014, 01:43 AM   #5093
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I have a question, why does Amtrak run on commercial freight rail instead of a dedicated rail?
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Old November 26th, 2014, 03:37 AM   #5094
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Where in the world would they get the money, let alone the room to do so? also, if the well of private railroads of 100 years ago didn't do so, than I'd expect Amtrak not to do so.
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I have a question, why does Amtrak run on commercial freight rail instead of a dedicated rail?
Because Amtrack does not own the rails in most palces. Amtrack started in 1971, long after mot of the rail network in the US was built. Since then it has not had a need great enough to motivate investing in building new lines.
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Well that makes sense. There would have to be private investment for something like that like in FL or they do what they've done since 1971.
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Old November 27th, 2014, 05:42 PM   #5097
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Yes they are doing the environmental review right now. Actually 2 environmental reviews one for the Dallas to Houston line and another for the Fort Worth, Arlington, to Dallas line. As long as Texas doesn't f*** it up then they should be able to get at least one HSR line.
Well, it's the Dallas-Houston line that's the "Real McCoy". The distance between Dallas and Forth Worth is so short that it makes little difference if the trains run at 300 km/h or a more conventional 180 km/h. Conversely the trip length between Dallas and Houston is comparable to some of the more successful Japanese and European point-to-point connections.
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Old November 28th, 2014, 08:24 AM   #5098
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Even though I live in Austin, I'm excited to see this line take off first and have it's success trickle over to the IH 35 corridor.
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Old November 29th, 2014, 05:45 PM   #5099
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Maybe there is hope I'll see HSR before my 100th birthday.
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Old November 29th, 2014, 07:55 PM   #5100
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Maybe there is hope I'll see HSR before my 100th birthday.
Are you 80 yrs old?
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