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Old January 24th, 2015, 07:05 PM   #5321
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Let's get this topic back on track to a discussion of construction activity and, more importantly, pictures of that construction activity.
It appears that there are threads devoted to California High Speed Rail construction (as opposed to debate on its merits). These are on the Transportation-Infrastucture subforum and the West Coast and Interior West subforum.

But there is no separate thread for construction posts for California High Speed Rail on the Railways subforum.

By default all posts debating the merits and any construction posts on the Railways subforum are lumped into the United States High Speed Rail thread.

Maybe Railways needs its own California High Speed Rail construction thread.
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Old January 24th, 2015, 11:34 PM   #5322
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It appears that there are threads devoted to California High Speed Rail construction (as opposed to debate on its merits). These are on the Transportation-Infrastucture subforum and the West Coast and Interior West subforum.

But there is no separate thread for construction posts for California High Speed Rail on the Railways subforum.

By default all posts debating the merits and any construction posts on the Railways subforum are lumped into the United States High Speed Rail thread.

Maybe Railways needs its own California High Speed Rail construction thread.
Can we have links to these threads?
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Old January 25th, 2015, 01:19 AM   #5323
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Under a recent rule change, members cannot post links until we have made 10 posts.

If you go Railways page there is a Thread Finder link. To the right of the city photo banner at the top of the Thred Finder is a search box labeled Google custom search. Enter california high speed rail and click on the returns showing Transportation Infrastucture or West Coast and Interior West.

Page 60 is the most recent for Transportation Infrastucture.

Page 15 is the most recent for West Coast and Interior West.
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Old January 25th, 2015, 01:44 AM   #5324
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Under a recent rule change, members cannot post links until we have made 10 posts.

If you go Railways page there is a Thread Finder link. To the right of the city photo banner at the top of the Thred Finder is a search box labeled Google custom search. Enter california high speed rail and click on the returns showing Transportation Infrastucture or West Coast and Interior West.

Page 60 is the most recent for Transportation Infrastucture.

Page 15 is the most recent for West Coast and Interior West.
This is rather confusing. Maybe you could make additional posts and come back to post the links? You are only two posts short.
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Old January 25th, 2015, 01:54 AM   #5325
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I plan to. Or maybe a veteran member can post links to the California High Speed threads on Transportation-lnfrastructure and West Coast and Interior West.
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Old January 25th, 2015, 03:11 AM   #5326
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When did this stupid post thing get put in place???
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Old January 25th, 2015, 10:24 AM   #5327
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When did this stupid post thing get put in place???
I assume on January 1. I posted my second post on December 25 with a link and had no problem. When I tried to post on January 1 or 2 with a link it rejected it because I did not have 10 posts.

The only reason I can think of is to protect against spam.
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Old January 25th, 2015, 10:59 AM   #5328
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Here are links to the current last pages of subforums with posts about California High Speed Rail demolition and groundbreaking.

Transportation-Infrastucture
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...hp?p=120321896

West Coast and Interior West
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...hp?p=118241160

Scroll down to the January posts.
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Old January 25th, 2015, 11:44 AM   #5329
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There is nothing there either for the obvious reason that there is no real ongoing construction yet.
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Old January 25th, 2015, 04:21 PM   #5330
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It appears that there are threads devoted to California High Speed Rail construction (as opposed to debate on its merits). These are on the Transportation-Infrastucture subforum and the West Coast and Interior West subforum.

But there is no separate thread for construction posts for California High Speed Rail on the Railways subforum.

By default all posts debating the merits and any construction posts on the Railways subforum are lumped into the United States High Speed Rail thread.

Maybe Railways needs its own California High Speed Rail construction thread.
I have no problem with a civil discussion on the merits of US highspeed rail projects in this thread. My problem was with the thread turning into a Repub vs. Dem shouting match...there are plenty of other websites where people can engage in that type of debate.
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Old January 26th, 2015, 03:22 AM   #5331
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I have no problem with a civil discussion on the merits of US highspeed rail projects in this thread. My problem was with the thread turning into a Repub vs. Dem shouting match...there are plenty of other websites where people can engage in that type of debate.
I personally have no problem with this thread being a Dem vs. Rep shouting match... so long as the shouting pertains to the topic of HSR.

i.e. Republicans suck because they're against just to spite Obama, or how this is a "filthy union job".
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Old January 26th, 2015, 01:22 PM   #5332
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I think we are still waiting for the NTP (Notice to Proceed). Likely, they are going over the CP details, since it's essentially a contract. Once they've fully reviewed, amended anything/accepted the terms, they'll officially accept it.

Until then, we won't see/hear much of anything.
In Dallas, which has many office and residential towers going up, I have noticed that it takes 30-45 days from the groundbreaking ceremony to the start of actual construction.

I assume CP means Construction Plan.
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Old January 26th, 2015, 02:48 PM   #5333
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Any idea of how long that will take?
Technically, CP-1 already began, and 2&3 have not. I think the "Groundbreaking" was more ceremonial/symbolic to mark the beginning of the entire Initial Operating Segment, technically, even though demolition and testing has begun around Fresno.

As for CP-1, we'll probably see that bridge begin to go up near Fresno, first, I've been hearing.

As for CP-2&3, I've been reading the end of Q1; so it may be demolition in the Spring and actual construction later this summer Summer.

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In Dallas, which has many office and residential towers going up, I have noticed that it takes 30-45 days from the groundbreaking ceremony to the start of actual construction.

I assume CP means Construction Plan.
Construction Package. There are some things in the Design-Build contracts that are interesting, for what it's worth. I've been glancing over them whenever I'm bored.

Tutor-Perini is completing CP-1
Dragados-Flatiron-Shimmick is completing CP-2&3

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Old January 31st, 2015, 03:04 AM   #5334
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Construction On All Aboard Florida’s MiamiCentral To Begin Within 45 Days

By TNM Staff on January 27, 2015
Dade’s Rapid Transit Developmental Impact Committee granted final approval for the first phase of All Aboard Florida’s MiamiCentral station at a meeting last week. The meeting lasted less than thirty minutes, including a presentation on the project by Zyscovich Architects.

Construction on the rail portion will begin within 45 days. Under Florida statutes, the railway portion is not subject to local regulations or construction permitting.


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Old January 31st, 2015, 09:58 AM   #5336
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Western Mass. lawmakers want to study Boston to Springfield high-speed rail


Springfield area business and civic officials board an Amtrak train to Springfield after their visit to Hartford's Union Station during day-long learning tour of rail terminals as the Springfield Union Station renovation project is under way. December 8, 2014. (Michael S. Gordon / The Republican) (Michael S. Gordon)

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A coalition of lawmakers from Western Massachusetts is pushing for a study of the feasibility of expanded Boston to Springfield high-speed rail.

A bill sponsored by newly elected state Sen. Eric Lesser, a Longmeadow Democrat, would require the Department of Transportation to submit a report by Aug. 1, 2015, that includes "an examination and evaluation of the costs and economic, social and cultural benefits" to the Greater Springfield region and the state, according to a bill summary.
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Old February 6th, 2015, 11:40 AM   #5337
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China in talks to sell high-speed trains to U.S.

BEIJING —State-owned Chinese firms are in discussions to sell high-speed trains to the United States, senior officials said on Thursday, a deal that would be likely to ignite controversy.

China’s leaders have been promoting the country’s fast rail technologies in meetings with foreign politicians as they seek to move the country’s exports up the value chain, and Chinese companies are building high-speed rail networks in Turkey and Venezuela.

But a contract for a Chinese-led consortium to build a high-speed rail line in Mexico was scrapped only days after it was signed, and a deal to supply subway trains to Boston also generated controversy.

For China to build infrastructure in the United States—where a number of high-speed rail proposals have come to naught—or supply it with rolling stock would be politically sensitive.

But Zhi Luxun, a senior official with the commerce ministry’s foreign trade department, told AFP Thursday: “There are currently discussions with the United States.”....... to read more click here
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Old February 6th, 2015, 12:46 PM   #5338
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Most (if not all) the HSR projects in the US have local build requirements for the highspeed train sets. I'm not sure how willing or able the Chinese are to move the manufacturing process to the US as this might limit their price competitiveness.

The fact that the Chinese government is also discouraging the purchase of US IT products in China might also result in a US government retaliation by not considering Chinese train set manufacturers.
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California has requirements that the rolling stock be in service accident-free for at least five years. China doesn't have that.
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