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Old April 29th, 2015, 11:04 AM   #5561
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Basically it's only meant to wet people's appetite to develop a New York to Washington D.C route. The D.C. Baltimore route on itself will not generate enough revenue to sustain the line.

It also helps construction of the Chuo Shinkansen as well since there will be more demand on common equipment shared on the two lines bringing down cost through volume.
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Old April 29th, 2015, 08:08 PM   #5562
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I'm not sure...they haven't always been clear about this process.



Maybe the timeline shifted after Amtrak and CAHSRA decided to not attempt a joint procurement?

Ya, also why hasn't Amtrak released their selection? They got the multi year funding package they wanted (albeit not at the funding level they wanted) they should be able to announce this.
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Old April 29th, 2015, 08:39 PM   #5563
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Basically it's only meant to wet people's appetite to develop a New York to Washington D.C route. The D.C. Baltimore route on itself will not generate enough revenue to sustain the line.

It also helps construction of the Chuo Shinkansen as well since there will be more demand on common equipment shared on the two lines bringing down cost through volume.
DC to New York Maglev will cost at least 80 billion and will only benefit a few....
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Old April 29th, 2015, 09:32 PM   #5564
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Seriously a Chicago-Dallas Maglev would be more beneficial
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Seriously a Chicago-Dallas Maglev would be more beneficial
And Cheaper , less hills...less tunnels... I support Maglev lines in the Midwest and West Coast areas....just not in the Northeast where regular HSR would be better.
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Old April 29th, 2015, 09:35 PM   #5566
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The plains areas of the mid west is where they make sense anywhere else are just too many issues
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DC to New York Maglev will cost at least 80 billion and will only benefit a few....

It would benefit anyone who flies that route. Which is quite a few. It's an operational cash cow with a high capital cost and relatively low operating costs.
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It would benefit anyone who flies that route. Which is quite a few. It's an operational cash cow with a high capital cost and relatively low operating costs.
Its an Expensive mistake , given Amtrak's plan would reduce travel times to 80mins....and Cost significantly cheaper...then the Maglev. Why don't the Japanese invest in that cash cow? Why are they pushing for the more expensive plan which they will not fully pay for...
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Old May 1st, 2015, 02:38 AM   #5569
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The Japanese probably would invest in that project if they had the backing to do so. These projects need local support.

They're offering to finance the dc Baltimore line. That's an attractive carrot.

Once it is all said and done how much is the Amtrak plan going to cost? I've seen costs at $151B (2012 dollars), reducing the time to 188 minutes between DC and Boston.

It will be adequate to compete with planes but a maglev would cost about the same, be underground, less disruptive and completely change the air market eliminating much of the plane travel.

Let Amtrak continue to be a feeder rail network but built proper short haul alternatives to flying.
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Old May 1st, 2015, 02:49 AM   #5570
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The Japanese probably would invest in that project if they had the backing to do so. These projects need local support.

They're offering to finance the dc Baltimore line. That's an attractive carrot.

Once it is all said and done how much is the Amtrak plan going to cost? I've seen costs at $151B (2012 dollars), reducing the time to 188 minutes between DC and Boston.

It will be adequate to compete with planes but a maglev would cost about the same, be underground, less disruptive and completely change the air market eliminating much of the plane travel.

Let Amtrak continue to be a feeder rail network but built proper short haul alternatives to flying.
Its 100 Billion for the Northeast Corridor Core Network which is upgrading the Current NEC , Building a New NEC via LI/91/84/90 , and upgrading the feeder lines that Amtrak owns which would benefit Regional Rail & Freight. I highly doubt the Maglev would be cheaper then the NEC Plan it would have to all underground. The Japanese Project is 80 billion....I doubt your going to get much support for a similar costing project without the benefits of the Regional & Freight Rail Upgrades.
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Old May 1st, 2015, 02:52 AM   #5571
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UNITED STATES | High Speed Rail

Have you got a source on that 100b to reduce times to 80 minutes?

I'm not trying to challenge you, I'm actually just genuinely curious to read up more about it.
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Old May 1st, 2015, 07:13 AM   #5572
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Have you got a source on that 100b to reduce times to 80 minutes?

I'm not trying to challenge you, I'm actually just genuinely curious to read up more about it.
Its Buried in one of the FRA reports... The New Official Report comes out this Summer if im not mistaken. It should sort out all the Rail Plans for the NEC / NE. I question the 150 billion number as political scare tactics which are common in the Northeast when they don't want to do the work. Projects can Magically grow by 20 billion over a few months.... Its Corruption and it affects Private Projects aswell. Which is why I rather see the Maglev line built out West , they should have built it in Texas. Although that Project might die aswell sadly.
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It's 2015, they should be throwing up the catenaries on at least one corridor!
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Shinzo Abe Touts High-Speed Rail in California



California Gov. Jerry Brown, center, and Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, center right, get a demonstration of a Shinkansen train simulator at the Fairmont Hotel in San Francisco on Thursday.



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Have you got a source on that 100b to reduce times to 80 minutes?

I'm not trying to challenge you, I'm actually just genuinely curious to read up more about it.
You can read the documents here (and Amtrak's plan)

From what I understand, speaking with some of the consultants who are doing the work for the FRA, their general idea is to coordinate all of the stakeholders (transit agencies, states, counties, cities, etc), so that when the time comes, or if anyone decides to make any drastic upgrades, every one is on the same page and it results in progress towards one, singular vision.

In that way, a lot of their ideas - namely, the route alternatives - mirror some of the things Amtrak has been studying.

Most of the cost projections have come from the Amtrak study...I haven't heard anything so solid from the NEC Future plans, I don't think.
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On that note, does anyone have any idea about the result of Amtrak's NEC RFP?
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A 3-Part Plan to Rebuild New York's Old Penn Station

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By ERIC JAFFE

Richard Cameron and James Grimes of the architecture and design firm Atelier & Co., in Brooklyn, have developed a plan to rebuild New York City's old Penn Station in all its former glory.

- A rebuilt Penn Station would give New York back its monumental gateway of which it was robbed in 1963. Today’s train passengers are required to navigate a depressing warren of gloomy passages instead of passing through McKim’s sequence of inspiring vaulted spaces.

- The first task of a Rebuilt Penn Station would be … rebuilding Penn Station. Labine points to 353 original McKim Mead & White drawings in the archives of the New York Historical Society to "jump-start the design process." There are also plenty of other photographs that capture the 84 Doric columns, and the spacious concourse and its glass canopy, and the vaulted ceiling of the marble waiting room that Labine writes "never failed to impress and uplift anyone who entered."
http://www.citylab.com/commute/2015/...tation/392261/
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So the Port Authority hosted a Summit on Tran-Hudson Capacity solutions here is a Link to the page, and the Slide shows by the PA, MTA, NJT, Amtrak and the RPA are at the bottom of the page. Enjoy!

http://www.transhudsonsummit.com/
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Some Acela Photos I took Yesterday at Hamilton Station which is a 135mph zone...

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Trains at Hamilton Station on the Northeast Corridor
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Trains at Hamilton Station on the Northeast Corridor
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Trains at Hamilton Station on the Northeast Corridor
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Westbound Acela Express at Hamilton Station
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And Soon to be a 160 mph zone
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