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Old June 7th, 2015, 12:41 AM   #5701
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What's with that little kink in between Richmond and D.C.? Seems like a great way to slow things down. I know it's a fairly modest proposal for now (from 70mph to 90mph, ooooo), but if you're gonna spend a whole bunch of money, why not get it right from the start?
Its an S-Curve , which could be bypassed using I-95 ROW....
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Old June 7th, 2015, 05:21 AM   #5702
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I believe the speed limit used to be higher.... Until some unfortunate accidents similar to recent ones in Philli occurred back in the 40s
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Old June 7th, 2015, 12:43 PM   #5703
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An no one ever cared to rectify the situation or install a proper signalling system making such an accident impossible?
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Old June 7th, 2015, 02:30 PM   #5704
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Why America is betting big on bullet trains

"Compared with China, Europe, and Japan, the U.S. lags badly when it comes to high-speed rail. Can new projects proposed in California, Florida, and Texas get the nation back on track?"

"Americans love cars, which goes a long way to explain why we’ve failed to build a serious high-speed-rail network. Yes, we have Amtrak’s Acela Express, which runs from Boston to Washington, D.C., but that passenger train only occasionally hits 150 miles per hour—its average speed is a paltry 68 mph. (Too much speed contributed to the fatal Amtrak regional train crash in May.) By comparison Shanghai’s maglev train hits a high of 268 mph and averages 143 mph. That might be about to change, as crowded highways, growing populations, and a generation of millennials lukewarm on car ownership have encouraged entrepreneurs and state officials in California, Texas, and Florida to start building the next generation of bullet trains."

http://fortune.com/2015/06/04/americ...bullet-trains/
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Old June 7th, 2015, 04:14 PM   #5705
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Well America did kinda ditch the idea of seriously using trains between the 40s and today. Just to put this in perspective, I know that most people here probably never took a train between 1970 and 2000.
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Old June 8th, 2015, 11:58 PM   #5706
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First phase of bullet train is cut due to Bakersfield, Shafter disputes

"State bullet train officials have cut eight miles of track from an initial 130-mile section of construction in the Central Valley as a result of legal disputes with local cities."

"Instead of ending in the outskirts of Bakersfield, the rail work will now stop just north of Shafter. A still-pending legal battle also could eliminate a proposed elevated structure that would have carried high-speed trains through Shafter's downtown."

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Old June 9th, 2015, 03:24 AM   #5707
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Poor delusional Bakersfield
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Old June 9th, 2015, 09:42 AM   #5708
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Sorry if this article was posted already but I found it today.

Why America is betting big on bullet trains

"Compared with China, Europe, and Japan, the U.S. lags badly when it comes to high-speed rail. Can new projects proposed in California, Florida, and Texas get the nation back on track?"

"Americans love cars, which goes a long way to explain why we’ve failed to build a serious high-speed-rail network. Yes, we have Amtrak’s Acela Express, which runs from Boston to Washington, D.C., but that passenger train only occasionally hits 150 miles per hour—its average speed is a paltry 68 mph. (Too much speed contributed to the fatal Amtrak regional train crash in May.) By comparison Shanghai’s maglev train hits a high of 268 mph and averages 143 mph. That might be about to change, as crowded highways, growing populations, and a generation of millennials lukewarm on car ownership have encouraged entrepreneurs and state officials in California, Texas, and Florida to start building the next generation of bullet trains."

http://fortune.com/2015/06/04/americ...bullet-trains/
I blame the car and oil companies for fueling/forcing this car craze in the U.S. My personal experience and talking to others who've visited places with excellent public transportation like Europe come back home and wonder why the U.S. is so messed up by design. Before I knew any different I was all about wide freeways and cars. Now I'd like an option to leave my car home, do more walking without wasting too much time.
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Old June 9th, 2015, 02:57 PM   #5709
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High-speed rail opponents expected to converge at LA meeting

"The board behind California's planned high-speed rail project is set to meet in downtown Los Angeles, where it could hear fierce opposition from community leaders and Southern California locals who expect to be affected by the building of the bullet train."

"Tuesday morning's meeting of the California High-Speed Rail Authority, the first in Los Angeles since 2013, comes in the wake of a heated local meeting last month in the San Fernando Valley, and several groups opposing the project with hundreds of potential speakers are expected to show up for a rare opportunity for to voice their opposition together in one place."

http://www.seattlepi.com/news/us/art...at-6315385.php

http://www.washingtonpost.com/nation...3ee_story.html

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Old June 9th, 2015, 02:59 PM   #5710
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Report: Bulk of Miami-to-Orlando high-speed rail service customers will come from South Florida

"All Abroad Florida, the new high-speed passenger rail line linking South Florida and Orlando, will surprisingly do half its business among people traveling only between Miami, Fort Lauderdale and West Palm Beach, a study released Thursday reported."

"The study by the New Jersey-based Louis Berger Group, an international business consulting company, also contains what it calls an “optimized’ fare structure, which includes round trips between Miami and Fort Lauderdale between $11 and $15, and Miami and Orlando from $85 to $130."

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/loca...#storylink=cpy
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Old June 9th, 2015, 03:09 PM   #5711
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LA County Officials Call For Elimination Of Bad Bullet Train Routes

"Los Angeles County officials called on the California High-Speed Rail Authority to recognize the significant impacts to many communities along the proposed rail alignments in a joint letter issued to the Authority in advance of its June 9 board meeting."

"The officials were Los Angeles County Mayor Michael D. Antonovich, Los Angeles County Supervisor Sheila Kuehl, and Los Angeles City Councilmember Felipe Fuentes."

"They also called on the Authority to develop a clear timeline for conducting the technical analyses requested by local communities that will allow the Authority to remove as soon as possible alternatives with the greatest community impacts."

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Old June 10th, 2015, 02:47 AM   #5712
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Does anyone know how much Amtrak pays annually to private railways to use their tracks and facilities, and which stretches of train account for the greatest annual spends?

Got to wondering this while reading articles about the profitability of the NE corridor in comparison to other regions, while simultaneously hearing that key portions of many corridors Amtrak operates, such as Chicago<--->St Louis, are operated entirely on tracks owned by other railways. Couldn't find a good figure anywhere about how much is paid in total, but found this report highlighting overpayments, which I found fascinating when coupled with the fact that a number of freight railroads are looking at getting back into the passenger business, (old articles, I know).

So in short: how much does Amtrak pay out to 3rd party railroads, and how does that impact the profitability of the system as a whole? Obviously, getting a complete picture is never going to be possible because we never know how much it would cost Amtrak to develop its own track system.
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Old June 10th, 2015, 03:29 AM   #5713
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High-speed rail opponents expected to converge at LA meeting

"The board behind California's planned high-speed rail project is set to meet in downtown Los Angeles, where it could hear fierce opposition from community leaders and Southern California locals who expect to be affected by the building of the bullet train."

"Tuesday morning's meeting of the California High-Speed Rail Authority, the first in Los Angeles since 2013, comes in the wake of a heated local meeting last month in the San Fernando Valley, and several groups opposing the project with hundreds of potential speakers are expected to show up for a rare opportunity for to voice their opposition together in one place."

http://www.seattlepi.com/news/us/art...at-6315385.php

http://www.washingtonpost.com/nation...3ee_story.html
Out of curiosity, what is the demographic breakdown between high speed rail supporters and opponents in California?
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Old June 10th, 2015, 07:52 AM   #5714
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Sure it was, now explain the ideology.
It was "idiot"ology. Developing high speed rail in the U.S. makes a lot more sense than continuing to pour billions into roads.
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Old June 10th, 2015, 01:17 PM   #5715
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It was "idiot"ology. Developing high speed rail in the U.S. makes a lot more sense than continuing to pour billions into roads.
And the sparse population density is a non-argument as huge parts of the US are quite densely populated, especially East of the Missisippi, in California and Texas.
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Old June 10th, 2015, 10:30 PM   #5716
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The Northeast megalopolis is actually 4 times as dense as France for example
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Old June 10th, 2015, 11:01 PM   #5717
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The Northeast megalopolis is actually 4 times as dense as France for example
The 2010 Population was 52.3 Million , the 2025 Projected population will be 60 million and by 2050 the population will be an estimated 70 to 80 million. The numbers keep going up each year...and faster.
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Old June 10th, 2015, 11:32 PM   #5718
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Imagine more high-speed rail throughout Northeast

"Imagine departing from Philadelphia and arriving in New York City in 32 minutes, or Washington in less than an hour. Imagine being able to speed at nearly 220 m.p.h. past the ever-worsening traffic gridlock of the five major metropolitan cities along the East Coast."

"Now imagine such opportunities throughout the entire Northeast Corridor, which generates 20 percent of the nation's gross domestic product and supports a population of 50 million Americans packed into an area covering roughly 2 percent of the country."


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Old June 10th, 2015, 11:34 PM   #5719
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Reaction to SoCal high-speed rail route options: Stay away from my town

"Speakers from across northern Los Angeles County spent more than four hours Tuesday giving the California High-Speed Rail Authority board their strong opinions — mostly unfavorable — over potential route options between Palmdale and Burbank."

"Person after person from communities in the San Gabriel Mountains pleaded with the agency’s board to steer clear of routes that they said would devastate their communities. Their emotional remarks came before the board received a report outlining four broad alternatives for the route."

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California Governor’s $68 billion signature project could gut communities

"California Gov. Jerry Brown has compared the state's high-speed rail line to construction of the Golden Gate Bridge and the great cathedrals of Europe. Isobel Cook doesn't see it that way."

"The 13-year-old who raises chickens, turkeys and ducks in the unincorporated community of Acton told members of the California High-Speed Rail Authority Tuesday that she feared the $68 billion project traveling at speeds up to 220 mph would divide her hometown."



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