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Old September 9th, 2015, 06:54 AM   #5941
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Making of the Amtrak Veterans ACS-64 Locomotive

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Old September 11th, 2015, 09:09 AM   #5943
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Sandoval appoints 5 to Nevada high-speed rail board



Five Southern Nevada residents, including a financial expert, the general manager of the Regional Transportation Commission and an engineering professor, have been named to the new Nevada High-Speed Rail Authority.

Gov. Brian Sandoval announced his appointments Thursday to the board charged with developing a plan to connect Southern Nevada and Southern California with a high-speed rail system.

The board was formed in May when Sandoval signed Senate Bill 457 into law.

The initial appointees are George Smith, executive vice president of Bank of America Merrill Lynch; Tina Quigley, general manager of the Regional Transportation Commission of Southern Nevada; Hualiang "Harry" Teng, director of the railroad, high-speed rail and transit initiative and an associate professor of UNLV's Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering; Fred Dilger, principal and transportation analyst at Black Mountain Research in Henderson; and Peter Thomas, managing partner of the Thomas & Mack Co. in Las Vegas.
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Old September 15th, 2015, 08:59 AM   #5944
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What America can learn from Germany’s high-speed trains



The German Marshall Fund put out a report in June on the lessons California could draw from the well-developed HSR systems in Germany and France. Most of the different points it lays out boil down to one essential, overarching approach: Make HSR central to a larger transportation system that includes other alternatives to driving and is focused around smart growth. Successful high-speed rail requires more than just laying tracks between cities and buying fancy new rail cars.
Specifically, the report warns against putting stops in sparsely populated areas, because that slows trains down. Put them only in the center of major cities, recommends report author Eric Eidlin, as Germany has done. The ICE train, for example, makes no stops during the two-hour journey between Berlin and Hamburg. France, on the other hand, has dispersed train stations around the urban periphery, and the result, Eidlin notes, has been less efficient connections to other modes of transport. "California should carefully consider the economic development and access challenges that French cities such as Aix-en-Provence and Avignon have experienced with exurban and peripheral stations," Eidlin writes. "Thankfully, California has made the wise decision of siting most HSR stations in central cities. However, one notable exception to this is the proposed Kings/Tulare station east of Hanford, which would be located in an exurban location." Also, the Milbrae and Burbank station locations will be in less accessible areas.
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Old September 16th, 2015, 03:56 AM   #5945
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There's an Awful Lot of Parking Near This California High-Speed Rail Station

If a goal of the train is to reduce car-reliance, why does a new rendering show a big surface lot?



One of the primary goals of California high-speed rail is to get people out of their cars. So it’s a bit confusing to see the rail authority’s new video rendering of a proposed alignment in Bakersfield—complete with a great big surface parking lot outside the station.

Bakersfield recently agreed to drop a lawsuit against the rail project if the authority studied an alternative train route through the city. Unlike the original option, which loops into central Bakersfield via an Amtrak station, the alternative would run through a brand new F Street Station downtown. It would reportedly be “less disruptive than the earlier route,” uprooting few if any residential buildings.



But the station site shown in the video (spotted by Systemic Failure), while admittedly not a final plan, raises questions about how officials envision the Bakersfield stop. That’s not one level of market-priced garage parking embedded in a multi-story retail and residential complex—it looks more like the unpriced surface parking found at big box superstores. Not pictured: any semblance of transit connections, bike storage, or pedestrian access.

Such a scheme would go against the authority’s own original guidelines for station development, laid out in 2010, which emphasize limited parking facilities near high-speed rail hubs. The parking that does get built should be placed in garages, incorporated into mixed use developments, and available for shared use by nearby retailers and residents. And unless the spots are priced right, people will drive to the stations themselves:

Sufficient train passenger parking would be essential to the system viability, but this should, as appropriate, be offered at market rates (not free) to encourage the use of access by transit and other modes."

It would also go against much of the accepted high-speed rail practice in Europe. Those standards—recently outlined in a report by Eric Eidlin of the U.S. Federal Transit Administration—emphasize the placement of stations near center cities, where they can serve as balanced transport hubs as well as investment anchors for local economic growth. Eidlin discourages station designers from setting aside too much room for parking, surface or otherwise:

Large parking structures, in turn, will limit possibilities for denser land use around stations. This will reduce opportunities for the state to maximize return on its investment in HSR, and will do little to decrease traffic congestion, decrease greenhouse gas emissions, and increase transit ridership.

To illustrate this point, Eidlin juxtaposes the Part-Dieu high-speed rail station in Lyon, France, with the city’s St.-Exupéry airport (which also serves HSR). Part-Dieu, though in need of pedestrian upgrades, accommodates 26 million riders a year, with access to loads of jobs, office space, and a massive shopping mall. The remote St.-Exupéry serves a third of the passengers with a fraction of the uses—largely because it dedicates so much space to surface parking





The social benefit of reduced driving emissions is the why California high-speed rail was given funding from the state’s cap-and-trade program in the first place. Offering ample surface parking around the stations runs directly counter to that expectation. Local travelers may have no choice but to drive to a downtown Bakersfield station at present; a successful station design will offer them other options in the future.

Update: Authority spokesperson Lisa Marie Alley tells CityLab “no decisions have been made” about parking at the eventual Bakersfield station, and that reducing car- and airplane-reliance will be one of the goals. The authority’s station area planning agreement with the city, announced yesterday, makes multimodal access to the site an explicit aim. “We will look at some of those issues of how much parking will be at a station, how many bike paths will be there, what's electric vehicle access going to be like, and how are different modes and connectivity going to provide travelers with all types of choices,” says Alley.

http://www.citylab.com/design/2015/0...tation/405241/
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Old September 17th, 2015, 10:03 AM   #5946
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China, U.S. Reach Agreement on High-Speed Rail Before Xi Visit

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A China Railway Group-led consortium and XpressWest Enterprises LLC will form a joint venture to build a high-speed railway linking Las Vegas and Los Angeles, the first Chinese-made bullet-train project in the U.S.

Construction of the 370-kilometer (230-mile) Southwest Rail Network will begin as soon as next September, according to a statement from Shu Guozeng, an official with the Communist Party’s leading group on financial and economic affairs. The project comes after four years of negotiations and will be supported by $100 million in initial capital. The statement didn’t specify the project’s expected cost or completion date.

The agreement, signed days before President Xi Jinping’s state visit to the U.S., is a milestone in China’s efforts to market its high-speed rail technology in advanced economies. The country has been pushing the technology primarily in emerging markets -- often with a sales pitch from Premier Li Keqiang-- as a means to project political influence. A $567 million contract last October to supply trains for Boston’s subway system was China’s first rail-related deal in the U.S.




The agreement also represents an important victory in China’s high-speed rail rivalry with Japan, as the two countries have competed for train contracts throughout Asia. The parent company of JR Central, Japan’s largest bullet-train maker, had expressed interest in the Los Angeles-Las Vegas line several years ago, and China and Japan are both expected to bid to supply train cars for a proposed high-speed rail line in California’s Central Valley.

"This is the first high-speed railway project where China and the U.S. will have systematic cooperation," Yang Zhongmin, a deputy chief engineer with China Railway Group, said after a news conference in Beijing. “It shows the advancement of China-made high-speed railways."

The Los Angeles-Las Vegas project will create new technology, manufacturing and construction jobs in the region, Shu’s statement said.

Through July, China had built more than 17,000 kilometers (10,565 miles) of domestic high-speed rail lines, according to the official Xinhua News Agency.




Apart from the railway project, China National Machinery Industry Corp. and General Electric Co. signed a memo of understanding to invest $327 million to develop 60 wind power stations in Kenya, Shu said at the Beijing news conference.

During Xi’s visit starting next week, China and the U.S. are expected to reach agreements on trade, energy, climate, finance, aviation, defense and infrastructure construction, China Foreign Minister Wang Yi said Wednesday. Xi is due to visit Boeing Co.’s factory in Everett, Washington as China makes a push to build its own passenger planes.

"Economic and trade cooperation will be a major topic for president Xi’s visit to the U.S.," Shu said in Beijing. "China and the U.S. share common interests and have solid foundation for cooperation."
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Old September 17th, 2015, 03:44 PM   #5947
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There's an Awful Lot of Parking Near This California High-Speed Rail Station

If a goal of the train is to reduce car-reliance, why does a new rendering show a big surface lot?




http://www.citylab.com/design/2015/0...tation/405241/


That isn't the actual station rendering...it's simply the station location. As far as I know, they're demonstrating what the viaducts would look like along the current alignment, under present conditions in that video.
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Old September 17th, 2015, 04:20 PM   #5948
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We can't expect every vehicle off the roads, some will use their vehicles as per their convenience.

HSR is aimed at getting people off the highways and planes to provide a safer and less polluting means of travel, but people will use private vehicles to reach stations.
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Old September 17th, 2015, 09:09 PM   #5949
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Especially without Denser Zoning Codes and improved public transit.
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Old September 18th, 2015, 07:15 PM   #5950
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I've red that all the things visible in that picture are real and currently existing except that viaduct.
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Old September 18th, 2015, 10:34 PM   #5951
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A high-speed rail from L.A. to Las Vegas? China says it's partnering with U.S. to build

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For decades private developers and entrepreneurs have periodically announced bold plans to run high-speed trains between Las Vegas and Los Angeles.

None have gotten anywhere because they lacked money or suffered other setbacks.

On Thursday, however, one long-discussed proposal appeared to gain some intriguing support.

Officials for XpressWest, which has been unable to secure adequate private investors in the United States or a $5.5-billion federal loan, announced that it had formed a partnership with China Railway International USA, a consortium led by China Railway, the national railroad of the People’s Republic of China.
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Old September 19th, 2015, 12:35 AM   #5952
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A HSR between LA and Las Vegas is really profitable? I don't thing so...
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Old September 19th, 2015, 12:48 AM   #5953
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A HSR between LA and Las Vegas is really profitable? I don't thing so...
Given the fact that I-15 is a parking lot ,it might be very successful.
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Yes, I agree.

XpressWest has plans to extend the future LA-Las Vegas HSR to Denver or Phoenix.

But, where Las Vegas station will be located? Amtrak used Plaza Hotel as the station for former Desert Wind service.
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Yes, I agree.

XpressWest has plans to extend the future LA-Las Vegas HSR to Denver or Phoenix.

But, where Las Vegas station will be located? Amtrak used Plaza Hotel as the station for former Desert Wind service.
I think where 20 years away from it reaching Denver or Phoenix. I think an Electrified Higher speed line from LA or San Diego to Phoenix would be more likely...
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I've red that all the things visible in that picture are real and currently existing except that viaduct.
I guess it was a slow news day...
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For La-LV HSR, they should've picked Shinkansen, given they've performed exceptionally well for 50 yrs, and has had no human-err accident till date.
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I am sure the consortium has forgotten the safety aspect; they are taking everything into account.
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Old September 20th, 2015, 06:35 PM   #5960
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Besides, human error wouldn't/shouldn't be the area of concern. It's technical/mechanical error in the trains era and infrastructure that are the worry.
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