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Old September 21st, 2015, 11:15 PM   #5961
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U.S. Senator Charles E. Schumer today visited Steuben County to announce that tomorrow the Amtrak Board of Directors is expected to select Alstom as the train provider for a $2.5 billion program to build the Next Generation High-Speed trains that will create over 750 jobs, including 400 jobs directly at Alstom in Hornell. During Schumer’s visit, he explained that while the final details of the contract still need to be negotiated, the Amtrak Board of Directors is expected to give the green light needed to move forward with those final negotiations exclusively with Alstom. This impending decision by the board paves the way for Alstom to build the next generation high-speed trains that will operate on the Northeast Corridor and is a monumental victory for upstate manufacturing. According to company executives, Alstom anticipates such a contract would create approximately 400 jobs in Hornell and potentially an additional 350 or more across the rest of New York. With more than 750 jobs expected between the Alstom’s Hornell facility and the ripple effect this massive contract would have throughout Upstate NY, Schumer said it would be a win for the entire Upstate NY economy.
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Old September 22nd, 2015, 02:56 AM   #5962
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So in other words Alstom is modifying the New Pendolino carbody for compliance with FRA regulations. Any idea if they will put in different traction motors?
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Amtrak to award Alstom $2.5 billion contract to build the next generation of high-speed Acela trains

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WASHINGTON — A Steuben County factory operated by Alstom Transport is expected to receive a $2.5 billion contract from Amtrak to build the next generation of high-speed Acela trains, New York Sen. Charles Schumer said Monday.

The contract would add 400 jobs at Alstom’s Hornell facility and another 350 for suppliers in the surrounding region, Alstom spokesman Pete Barkey said.
“It’s one of the largest contracts they have ever received and it’s a huge shot in the arm for the Southern Tier,’’ Schumer said. “It’s one of the biggest things that has happened in the Southern Tier, which has had its share of setbacks.’’

Amtrak’s board is expected to make the official announcement Tuesday, said Schumer, who traveled to Hornell on Monday to break the news.
Amtrak officials did not respond to a request for comment.


Alstom’s Hornell facility employs 500 workers in New York’s Southern Tier. That’s about half the number that worked there several years ago when the facility had a contract with the New York Metropolitan Transportation Authority.

“We are doing design, build and maintenance on existing train sets,’’ the Alstom spokesman said. “Our customers are major transportation systems around the country for major cities like Boston, New York and Philadelphia.’’

Alstom Transport, based in New York City, is a subsidiary of Alstom SA based in Paris, one of the world’s leading manufacturers of high-speed trains.

Barkey declined to comment on the Amtrak contract “due to the fact that it an ongoing procurement,’’ but confirmed Alstom has proposed building the next generation of high-speed Acela train sets. Those include locomotives and passenger cars used on the Northeast Corridor between Washington and Boston.

Alstom was a member of a consortium led by Montreal, Canada-based Bombardier for the original Acela train sets.

The existing Acela trains were acquired in 1994 and are under leases that expire between 2021 and 2023. Acela passenger cars feature reclining seats, electrical outlets for cell phone charges, and laptop computers and tables.

Republican Rep. Tom Reed of Corning told reporters in a conference call Monday that the announcement will have “a huge impact’’ in the region.

“I believe we are positioned very well in the Southern Tier and western New York to see a rebirth of U.S. manufacturing,’’ Reed said.
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Old September 22nd, 2015, 08:53 AM   #5964
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So in other words Alstom is modifying the New Pendolino carbody for compliance with FRA regulations. Any idea if they will put in different traction motors?
We'll know more in the coming weeks.
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Old September 22nd, 2015, 09:50 AM   #5965
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Ya, though is anyone really surprised that alstom got the contract?
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So in other words Alstom is modifying the New Pendolino carbody for compliance with FRA regulations. Any idea if they will put in different traction motors?
I think they will modify the Alstom AGV carbody.




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Old September 22nd, 2015, 10:08 AM   #5967
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Possibly but the advantage of the New Pendolino over the AVG, is that its carbody and bogies are already designed for tilting operation. The AVG's aren't though if they could find a way to merge the best of the two designs that would be amazing.
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Old September 22nd, 2015, 08:12 PM   #5968
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Possibly but the advantage of the New Pendolino over the AVG, is that its carbody and bogies are already designed for tilting operation. The AVG's aren't though if they could find a way to merge the best of the two designs that would be amazing.
I'm curious...why exactly is tilting missing from the AVGs? I never knew about that, before.
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Old September 22nd, 2015, 08:21 PM   #5969
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Tilting Trains are used on lines that were not built for high speed and upgraded to high speeds therefore having tight curves, i.e. The USA, Poland, Austria, and England or in places where the geography is extremely cost prohibitive, i.e. Switzerland, north Italy, and Japan.

The AGV was built primarily as the perceived next generation of TGV and possibly Eurostar trainsets. Since they would primarily run on the LGVs there would be little to no need for tilting operations. There for the engineering was simple not done.
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Old September 22nd, 2015, 09:52 PM   #5970
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Approval for central section of Southeast Corridor
22 SEP, 2015

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Plans to extend high-speed rail services from Washington into the Southeastern states has been backed by the US Department of Transportation (DOT).

The DOT, State of North Carolina and the Commonwealth of Virginia have all signed off the Final Environmental Impact Statement (FEIS) for a 260-kilometre section of the Southeast Corridor between Richmond and Raleigh.

Subject to funding, construction of the railway – the majority of which will use existing or former lines – can now begin

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Old September 23rd, 2015, 01:24 AM   #5971
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I'm kind of surprised that tilting isn't a standard feature on all high-speed trainsets...or even all train cars and locomotives. It'd increase average speed no matter the circumstances. Although the cost is obviously not an absolutely necessary expense in all circumstances, I'd imagine it'd be useful on any line that wasn't Chinese-straight.
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Old September 23rd, 2015, 03:31 AM   #5972
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How much does Acela even need tilting, anyways?
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How much does Acela even need tilting, anyways?
Between New York and Boston, the track is really contorted. It uses it between New Haven and Providence in particular because of the low track volume. Also the spacing in the right of way is cleared for FRA tilting requirements.
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I'm kind of surprised that tilting isn't a standard feature on all high-speed trainsets...or even all train cars and locomotives. It'd increase average speed no matter the circumstances. Although the cost is obviously not an absolutely necessary expense in all circumstances, I'd imagine it'd be useful on any line that wasn't Chinese-straight.
Besides extra costs, tilting trains have other disadvantages - from low center of mass (that leads to low carriages - in Russia they had to build special low platforms for tilting trains) to motion sickness. Also, it's additional source of possible failures - there are enough photos in the net with one or two carriages not tilted properly in the curve.

So I guess this option is considered carefully each time they choose a train. Maybe newer tilting systems would become more popular.
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N700i Shinkansen has a tilting mechanism but have not heard any of those complaints.
Having said that one large disadvantage of tilting trains is loading gauge in which in which it requires a large loading gauge for the same size.
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For La-LV HSR, they should've picked Shinkansen, given they've performed exceptionally well for 50 yrs, and has had no human-err accident till date.
If you had operated TGVs or ICEs in a similar fashion on a similar segregated network as Shinkansen their safety records wouldn't have been that different.
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If you had operated TGVs or ICEs in a similar fashion on a similar segregated network as Shinkansen their safety records wouldn't have been that different.
If I am not mistaken. neither of those trains had any casualties on dedicated tracks, just like the Shinkansen.
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There was a horrific derailment in Germany on the ICE 101dead and 88 injured out of 287 passengers.
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There was a horrific derailment in Germany on the ICE 101dead and 88 injured out of 287 passengers.
On mixed non-high-speed tracks, yes.
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