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Old March 18th, 2016, 05:00 PM   #6261
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Old March 22nd, 2016, 07:47 PM   #6262
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Wouldn't it make sense to split the California High-Speed Rail project from the existing "high speed" Acela talk?
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Old March 22nd, 2016, 07:50 PM   #6263
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Not yet because we also talk about the nascent Texas plans until they both become so Big that they dominate the conversation leaving the NEC in the dust.
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Old March 22nd, 2016, 09:01 PM   #6264
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Now, now. The NEC is still progressing. I just read an article recently about the Frankford Cutoff realigning the NEC through part of Philly.
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Old March 23rd, 2016, 04:45 AM   #6265
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Hmm there maybe money for that indeed
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Old March 23rd, 2016, 04:52 AM   #6266
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Now, now. The NEC is still progressing. I just read an article recently about the Frankford Cutoff realigning the NEC through part of Philly.
The annoying thing, as a New Englander, is that essentially all of the work on the NEC seems to be happening south of New York. Boston has always been a bit distant from NYC/Philly/DC end of the megalopolis because, well, it's more distant, but I think it's going to feel itself evermore cut-off from the activity in the corridor unless things start improving on its end.
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Old March 23rd, 2016, 04:56 AM   #6267
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They are doing work in Rhode Island, and the Connecticut River Bridge is coming along.
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Old March 23rd, 2016, 05:21 AM   #6268
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Now, now. The NEC is still progressing. I just read an article recently about the Frankford Cutoff realigning the NEC through part of Philly.
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The annoying thing, as a New Englander, is that essentially all of the work on the NEC seems to be happening south of New York. Boston has always been a bit distant from NYC/Philly/DC end of the megalopolis because, well, it's more distant, but I think it's going to feel itself evermore cut-off from the activity in the corridor unless things start improving on its end.
The electrification north of New Haven is much more recent, and the curvature problems in Connecticut are some of the most difficult on the entire Northeast Corridor.

South of New York, the alignment is generally better, but the electrification is older and needs to be replaced.
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Ya I was about the say, the electrification of the NEC past New Haven was pretty big, then again that was almost 20 years of but that timeline seems fairly par for the course for the NEC.
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Not yet because we also talk about the nascent Texas plans until they both become so Big that they dominate the conversation leaving the NEC in the dust.
The thing is, all NEC talk is basically just about small improvements. Nothing that will create true HSR in the region. The CAHSR project will actually be a true HSR and construction is starting.

I guess when works are more advanced it would make sense to split that from this thread.
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Old March 23rd, 2016, 09:41 PM   #6271
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The electrification north of New Haven is much more recent, and the curvature problems in Connecticut are some of the most difficult on the entire Northeast Corridor.

South of New York, the alignment is generally better, but the electrification is older and needs to be replaced.
Exactly. That's why the fact that these relatively quick-to-solve problems are being fixed first is all the more disappointing. It's just going to be that much longer before anything resembling true high-speed service comes to Boston.

It's precisely this type of situation (actually, only this type of situation) that makes me envy the Chinese: **** the landholders, **** any kind of EIR. Just do it.
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The thing is, all NEC talk is basically just about small improvements. Nothing that will create true HSR in the region. The CAHSR project will actually be a true HSR and construction is starting.

I guess when works are more advanced it would make sense to split that from this thread.
The last round of the NEC master plan that I looked at seemed to be taking the Eastern Connecticut bypass pretty seriously. Combine that with some of the projects in Maryland and New Jersey, and it starts to look half-way decent (160 on the Jersey Raceway is already available).
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Exactly. That's why the fact that these relatively quick-to-solve problems are being fixed first is all the more disappointing. It's just going to be that much longer before anything resembling true high-speed service comes to Boston.

It's precisely this type of situation (actually, only this type of situation) that makes me envy the Chinese: **** the landholders, **** any kind of EIR. Just do it.
Not just the Chinese , but even 3rd world / Developing nations in Africa are doing things faster then us...
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...with help from the Chinese, and following their same model.
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Exactly. That's why the fact that these relatively quick-to-solve problems are being fixed first is all the more disappointing. It's just going to be that much longer before anything resembling true high-speed service comes to Boston.

It's precisely this type of situation (actually, only this type of situation) that makes me envy the Chinese: **** the landholders, **** any kind of EIR. Just do it.
Hey now, us south of New York waited our turn to improve on the Pennsylvania's infrastructural legacy. Stop trying to hog all the investment dollars.
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Old March 25th, 2016, 11:44 AM   #6277
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What's the current overall situation with CHSR? Is the construction still exclusively in the first 22 mile segment and if so when is it going to start further south? Also as I understand funding is available only for the first phase (Merced-Bakersfield). When is the official deadline for finishing this phase?
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Not yet because we also talk about the nascent Texas plans until they both become so Big that they dominate the conversation leaving the NEC in the dust.
Is the Texas Central Railway project getting closer to construction or are they still working through the planning phase? I think this project could be very successful as the construction costs should be significantly lower than the CAHSR project given the flat terrain and existing corridors. Only downside is that there are not currently planning for a downtown Houston station (at least in the first phase).
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Hey now, us south of New York waited our turn to improve on the Pennsylvania's infrastructural legacy. Stop trying to hog all the investment dollars.
Did we mention the B&P and Hudson Tunnels that need replacing? And the Portal and Susquehanna Bridges as well?
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