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Old May 31st, 2016, 10:24 PM   #6381
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why should they build it on bridges? That would make the whole thing just prohibitively expensive. The route will be mostly on flat land with insignificant population density. Ideal to keep the cost/km down.
Personally after seeing how viaducts work for high speed rail in China I feel like that is the best implementation for HSR. Despite the cost it causes the least disruption on the environment compared to building on the ground or berms. I also imagine putting tracks on the ground will cut off a lot of roads that farmers need to efficiently feed the cities this line will serve. Otherwise ensure every road this line cuts through has a bridge to go over the tracks. This is the way I'd like to see HSR implemented in Texas.
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Old June 1st, 2016, 07:00 AM   #6382
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XpressWest executives have talked Hyperloop One about high-speed rail project

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Executives with XpressWest, the company franchised to build a high-speed rail line between Las Vegas and Southern California, have talked with officials with Hyperloop One, the high-tech, high-speed transport system under development in North Las Vegas.
But don’t expect any changes in the rail company’s strategy to build a steel-wheels-on-rails system that would link Las Vegas with Victorville, California, with future plans to expand to Palmdale, California, and downtown Los Angeles.
Responding to a question from a member of the Nevada High-Speed Rail Authority on Tuesday, XpressWest Chief Operating Officer Andrew Mack said company officials talked with the developers of Hyperloop, a technology that would use magnetically levitated pods to carry passengers and cargo at speeds of more than 600 mph through tubes.
“We’re not advocates of any one technology, but if it’s viable, we’d consider it,” Mack said.
But he also said that when XpressWest applied for and received the exclusive franchise to develop a high-speed system connecting Southern Nevada with Southern California, one requirement was to develop a system compatible with and interoperable with existing high-speed rail technology, such as the one proposed for the California High-Speed Rail System.
Mack and a financial consultant gave the authority board an update on XpressWest’s $8 billion, 185-mile, dual-track system with no grade crossings between Las Vegas and Victorville, roughly along the Interstate 15 right-of-way.
The project’s second phase would extend the track 50 miles west from Victorville to Palmdale, where it would intersect with existing commuter rail service.
Eventually, that commuter rail would be upgraded to high-speed rail when the California system is completed. In the third phase, XpressWest trains would link directly to the California line.
The fully electric, standard-gauge train would have multiple units capable of operating on California High-Speed Rail tracks. The company envisions an average round-trip fare of $100 with trains running every 20 minutes to and from Victorville during peak periods.
A station would be built in Las Vegas on the west side of I-15, just north of Russell Road.
While testing the viability of its system at the Apex Industrial Park, Hyperloop One has begun an international competition to determine the best place to build the first operating Hyperloop system. The deadline for submissions is in September; a winner is expected to be selected in March.
Meanwhile, XpressWest is working to keep its existing entitlements current as a long list of federal and state agencies review the proposal.

Mack said groundbreaking on the project, once forecast for fall,has been pushed back to early 2017. The government entities involved in approvals have stalled the regulatory process, he said, and the company wants to close on a financing plan by early next year.

He said the Federal Aviation Administration will have to weigh in on the project because some of the track entering Las Vegas near Mandalay Bay will be elevated and every catenary pole must be reviewed because the track will pass below runway flight paths at McCarran International Airport.
Jamison said investors have shown strong interest in the project and that financing is “progressing well.”
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Old June 3rd, 2016, 06:08 AM   #6383
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Forces are aligning in Minnesota to bring foreign and domestic funders together on the world’s first privately capitalized high-speed rail (HSR) corridor—a 77-mile, 200 mph train that will connect the MSP region with Rochester.
Unlike halting state efforts to initiate costly passenger rail projects, this project, estimated at $2 billion to $4 billion, could, if built entirely with private capital, move through Dakota, Goodhue, and Olmsted counties like a hot knife through butter.
Or could it? The fledgling company behind the effort, North American High Speed Rail (NAHSR), consists of a small band of strategists and international investment aggregators with no experience building or operating railroads in the U.S. The technical expertise will likely be outsourced to China, while the bulk of domestic efforts will go to raising money and assuaging rural fears about the taking of land, since the project as planned would make use of eminent domain.
And there are larger goals, involving building or connecting to Chicago and a Midwest HSR network. But Rochester comes first—and that seems to be challenge enough.

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I thought this was killed?
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I thought this was killed?
This is a privately-funded version.

I'm just a little wary of Chinese involvement, though.
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Old June 4th, 2016, 10:57 PM   #6386
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This could work for people from rochester who would be flying somewhere. No need for puddle.jumper flights.

I think a central Rochester stop by the med complex would be better though.
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Old June 9th, 2016, 03:42 PM   #6388
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Nine months after announcing that China would help build a high-speed rail line from Los Angeles to Las Vegas, the private U.S. company behind the plan said late Wednesday that the deal was off.

XpressWest said the decision to terminate the relationship with China Railway International was based “primarily upon difficulties associated with timely performance and CRI’s challenges in obtaining required authority to proceed with required development activities.”

XpressWest indicated that its “biggest challenge” was a federal government requirement that high-speed trains must be manufactured in the United States to secure regulatory approvals.
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Old June 9th, 2016, 08:27 PM   #6389
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I call BS. I think it is more plausible that it has to do with the CAHSRA pivoting away from the LA Basin to the Peninsula, for the IOS.
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Old June 14th, 2016, 05:09 AM   #6390
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XpressWest indicated that its “biggest challenge” was a federal government requirement that high-speed trains must be manufactured in the United States to secure regulatory approvals.
What a dumb requirement. That just drives up cost unnecessarily.
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Old June 14th, 2016, 05:14 AM   #6391
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Personally after seeing how viaducts work for high speed rail in China I feel like that is the best implementation for HSR. Despite the cost it causes the least disruption on the environment compared to building on the ground or berms. I also imagine putting tracks on the ground will cut off a lot of roads that farmers need to efficiently feed the cities this line will serve. Otherwise ensure every road this line cuts through has a bridge to go over the tracks. This is the way I'd like to see HSR implemented in Texas.


Tracks on viaducts also result in smoother rides. And as is evidenced in Japan preserves farmland and is easier to fix when earthquakes happen.

After the giant Tohoku quake the Line was back online in short order.

It does tend to be noisier but in Texas much of the line is away from populated areas.
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Old June 14th, 2016, 06:18 AM   #6392
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What a dumb requirement. That just drives up cost unnecessarily.
Local content rules are a common feature of infrastructure projects in almost every country in the world. As mentioned by some other posters above, the local content rules were likely just an excuse to drop the project.
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$2.5 billion railway is being built for Florida...in California


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Florida Gov. Rick Scott visited California in May, hoping to lure away dissatisfied business owners from high-tax California to the low-tax Sunshine State.

Now, a company in Florida behind the first privately funded U.S. high speed railway is manufacturing its trains ... in California.

The world is upside down.


http://www.cnbc.com/2016/06/10/flori...alifornia.html
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DOWNTOWN WAREHOUSE DEMOLISHED FOR HIGH SPEED RAIL


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Props for rick scott for keeping the taxes low in florida and slow down wasteful spending, screw California anyways.
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Tracks on viaducts also result in smoother rides. And as is evidenced in Japan preserves farmland and is easier to fix when earthquakes happen.

After the giant Tohoku quake the Line was back online in short order.

It does tend to be noisier but in Texas much of the line is away from populated areas.
Keep in mind, though, that farmland in Japan is a fair bit scarcer (and therefore more expensive) than it is in East Texas.

A line elevated on a berm should have bridges where it crosses public farm roads.
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Props for rick scott for keeping the taxes low in florida and slow down wasteful spending, screw California anyways.
Aside from the economic losses to congestion, the additional investment and growth derived from the railway would more than offset the cost.

And real nice about California.
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Props for rick scott for keeping the taxes low in florida and slow down wasteful spending, screw California anyways.


California gets the income. Florida gets the bill.

I'd be curious to know more details about this line. The Amtrak Cascades has a design speed ( and plan ) of 125 mph as well.

You don't just build high speed rail on existing tracks at low cost without significant trade offs.

Of course it could be that Florida does have the land available and the track times and I think this is a good thing but I'm a little wary still of rail in Florida in general given past attempts.
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California gets the income. Florida gets the bill.

I'd be curious to know more details about this line. The Amtrak Cascades has a design speed ( and plan ) of 125 mph as well.

You don't just build high speed rail on existing tracks at low cost without significant trade offs.

Of course it could be that Florida does have the land available and the track times and I think this is a good thing but I'm a little wary still of rail in Florida in general given past attempts.
Florida's Brightline is privately funded (there is some government money, but its loans not grants).

The 125 mph is mostly going to be between Cape Canaveral and Orlando, which is NEW trackage to be built alongside the Bee Line Expressway-effectively dead-straight and completely grade-separated. The section between Cape Canaveral and Miami will use the existing Florida East Coast Railway line (FEC is the group responsible for the project).

Work hasn't started between Cape Canaveral and Orlando (aside from Orlando station), but the tracks between Canaveral and Miami are being heavily upgraded even now-more double track, new signals, etc. etc. The FEC has the advantage of having been built before Florida became developed (its what MADE Florida, actually), so it has a pretty fast alignment. Since both freight and passenger have the same corporate ownership, it doesn't have to fight for priority like Amtrak.

Most of the 125 mph running will be between Canaveral and Orlando, but there will be some 90-110 running on the old main line. The trip is scheduled to take three hours Miami-Orlando.
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