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Old December 30th, 2016, 01:26 PM   #6621
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I hopw you are right, but with the current adminstration everything is possible on infrastructure. Trump might not have a clue about rail nor an opinion but his arch-conservative advisors are rather no fans of passanger rail, are they?
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Old December 30th, 2016, 04:23 PM   #6622
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It doesn't put money in THEIR pockets.
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Old December 30th, 2016, 06:27 PM   #6623
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The only glimmer of hope I have is that maybe Trump, being a NYC developer, won't be completely unfriendly to investments in Northeastern Amtrak projects. There is an enormous potential for private sector development to piggyback on public investments in rail and rail stations across the East Coast.

Surely some of his rich buddies are involved in building the Hudson Yards skyscraper district near Penn Station, of which the successful start and finish of the gateway project and river tunnel replacement project is crucia.

But overall I am not optimistic. The GOP's scandal of the week recently was Amtrak food service, which loses money but is a loss leader in terms of making train travel attractive and therefore selling tickets. Republicans have always wanted to run Amtrak into the ground, and the ones that don't have only supported it on the basis their home districts get a route which only perpetuates a focus on low ridership money-losing long distance trains instead of modern corridor service.
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Old December 31st, 2016, 04:30 AM   #6624
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Ya we're hoping that that the great Yam supports the whole fast trains thing because "Chinese trains are so fast" and national pride and such
Trump will probably try to take all the credit for high speed rail at this rate, even the projects that were well on there way before he took office.
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Old December 31st, 2016, 06:01 AM   #6625
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When you have someone at the wheel of a car that doesn't know how to drive it, but pretend like he knows exactly what to do and can do it better, then the can fail. We better hope the sane people aren't too far away from the Oval Office.

The GOP will only expand Amtrak if they can use it as a political broach later on, or if they get private companies signing multibillion dollar contracts to run the service.
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Old December 31st, 2016, 11:40 AM   #6626
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Trump will probably try to take all the credit for high speed rail at this rate, even the projects that were well on there way before he took office.
What projects? Besides the CHSR, there really isn't anything concrete going on right now.
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Old December 31st, 2016, 12:06 PM   #6627
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What projects? Besides the CHSR, there really isn't anything concrete going on right now.
There's also the Brightline project down in Florida, where the FEC is, as I have observed before, essentially the freight railroads' guinea pig for whether modern passenger service is feasible.
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Old December 31st, 2016, 12:23 PM   #6628
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There's also the Brightline project down in Florida, where the FEC is, as I have observed before, essentially the freight railroads' guinea pig for whether modern passenger service is feasible.
The Brightline is not High Speed Rail, though.
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Old December 31st, 2016, 06:43 PM   #6629
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The Brightline is not High Speed Rail, though.
Brightline sits at the border.

And there's also the Texas Central project.

And of course, the NEC.
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Old January 1st, 2017, 03:10 AM   #6630
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Trump Agrees With Democrats on High-Speed Trains

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“Our airports, bridges, water tunnels, power grids, rail systems—our nation’s entire infrastructure is crumbling, and we aren’t doing anything about it,” he wrote in his 2015 book, Crippled America. He went on to promise that fixing it wouldspur economic growth.
while on the Presidential campaign trail he has committed to infrastructure spending as a path to more U.S. jobs and private sector growth. He has proposed spending $1 trillion on roads, airports, pipelines, and the electrical grid, compared to the $305 billion over 5 years approved by Congress in late 2015.That level of spending would put him far beyond the pale of traditional GOP politics. Even more remarkably, Trump has said his infrastructure priorities would include mass transit and high-speed trains. Those are typically a bugaboo for the American right—Republican Florida Governor Rick Scott, for instance, turned down free federal money for a large rail project in 2011.
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Old January 1st, 2017, 03:53 AM   #6631
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That's what he said. But take a look at who his advisers are.
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Old January 1st, 2017, 04:59 AM   #6632
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Elaine Chao is a fairly competent administrator so we could be worse for DOT
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Old January 1st, 2017, 05:16 AM   #6633
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Agree , But Her relationship with McConnell could be helpful to get an infrastructure spending bill passed through Congress.
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Old January 1st, 2017, 01:17 PM   #6634
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Any updates about the construction of HSR in California? Has the construction now started south of Fresno?
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Old January 2nd, 2017, 08:07 AM   #6635
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Any updates about the construction of HSR in California?
Fresno river viaduct

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Tuolumne Street Bridge

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SAN JOAQUIN RIVER VIADUCT

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Has the construction now started south of Fresno?
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Old January 6th, 2017, 03:52 PM   #6636
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Why does the US lag so far behind in high speed rail?

China and others are charging ahead with high speed rail. But political will is not the only reason the US doesn’t have a comparable investment[...]
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Old January 6th, 2017, 06:22 PM   #6637
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The answer to that question might be... unions, higher labor costs, higher property values, environmental impact assessments, the EPA, NYMBYs, airlines lobbies, freight companies owning most of America's tracks, political will...

ETA: comparing the US to China is unrealistic.
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Old January 6th, 2017, 07:11 PM   #6638
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Big air, big road, big oil, and the far-right are basically it. Labor, NIMBY and environment are relatively minor and easily overcome. Only if the lobbyists get out of the way.
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Old January 6th, 2017, 08:27 PM   #6639
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Political will is the problem.

Unless you americans stop being scared of "communism" when you talk about trains, nothing will change.
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Old January 6th, 2017, 11:20 PM   #6640
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Its not a fear of communism, its the bribery from competing industries stopping the political will.
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