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Old March 31st, 2017, 01:37 AM   #6761
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Old April 5th, 2017, 01:49 AM   #6762
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Old April 6th, 2017, 11:09 AM   #6763
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List of operators interested in CA HSR revealed

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Five international teams of companies – all from nations with well-established passenger rail systems – have submitted their qualifications to handle the early ramp-up operation of California’s future high-speed rail program.

The California High-Speed Rail Authority received statements this week from British, Chinese, German, Italian and Spanish firms. The statements of qualifications is the first step toward selecting a consortium that will advise the authority as construction moves forward on the statewide bullet-train system and, later, become the first operator of the trains before a long-term franchise contract is awarded to run the system.
http://www.fresnobee.com/news/local/...142923849.html

*wrt this project, the Japanese Asahi newspaper reported Wednesday (April 5) that JR East will not be participating, given concerns of the profitability of the system as planned.
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Old April 6th, 2017, 01:37 PM   #6764
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China: HSR ETO Consortium

Germany: Deutsche Bahn and American subsidiary DB International USA Inc., Massachusetts-based Alternate Concepts Inc. and HDR Inc., based in Nebraska.

Italy/UK: FS First Rail Group, which includes Italian firms Ferrovie dello Stato Italiane S.p.A., Trenitalia, Rete Ferroviaria Italiana S.p.A., CentoStazioni S.p.A. and Italferr S.p.A.

Spain: Renfe, Adif and Globalvía (Concessionary)

UK: Stagecoah and its American subsidiary Coach USA Administration Inc.; a Scottish company operating jointly with Virgin in United Kingdom, what experience do you have at high speed? HS2 requires five years of high-speed experience.
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Old April 6th, 2017, 01:57 PM   #6765
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Old April 6th, 2017, 09:57 PM   #6766
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Personally, without knowing the details, I'm rooting for Germany.
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Old April 7th, 2017, 06:26 AM   #6767
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Trump is Interested in The Hyperloop



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Earlier this week, Elon Musk dined at the White House with the president to discuss his infrastructure plan for the country, according to reports from The Wall Street Journal. President Trump in turn expressed his interest in the Hyperloop.
While no concrete plans have been provided, the administration has stated their intentions to dedicate significant budget towards improving America’s roads and bridges. That certainly could include the latest technologies, like the Hyperloop. That being said, Trump’s curiosity for Musk’s ambitious transportation project doesn’t necessarily mean it come to fruition under his administration. According to The American Society of Civil Engineers, the U.S. would need $3.6 trillion to update the entire country’s infrastructure — and that’s not counting the Hyperloop.
Of course, apart from Musk sitting down with the President, there aren’t any concrete details that would suggest Trump could allot trillions from the federal budget for the project. Still, Trump’s interest could hint that the administration is looking towards privatizing American transportation infrastructure.
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Old April 7th, 2017, 11:08 AM   #6768
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Sure, it's the project that has more tweets.
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Old April 7th, 2017, 10:48 PM   #6769
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Also the that it ,like him, is made of smoke mirrors and bulls**t!
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Old April 8th, 2017, 12:05 AM   #6770
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I hope it never gets built. What we need is HSR. Hyperloop won't Eurpeanize our cities.
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Old April 8th, 2017, 12:11 AM   #6771
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Shhh we can't let people l know that's the end goal so in the meantime use density and low-mid rise instead
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Old April 8th, 2017, 06:33 AM   #6772
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Honestly I think the Smart growth movement would do better to look up at European architecture, and city planning. If they weren't making either boring colonial crap, or sterile LeCorbusian blocks, and instead insisted on making everything following strict 19th century European ideals, more people would be chill with Smart Growth.
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Old April 8th, 2017, 09:29 AM   #6773
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Honestly I think the Smart growth movement would do better to look up at European architecture, and city planning. If they weren't making either boring colonial crap, or sterile LeCorbusian blocks, and instead insisted on making everything following strict 19th century European ideals, more people would be chill with Smart Growth.

Are we talking Parisian or Roman or Barcelonan zoning because in my opinion the best form of zoning to support High speed rail is the grid of the commissioner's plan.
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Are we talking Parisian or Roman or Barcelonan zoning because in my opinion the best form of zoning to support High speed rail is the grid of the commissioner's plan.
Likely something which follows European planning in general. Depends on a city by city basis as well. I think the Barcelona plan would have success as something like 2/3 of the US in situated on a grid.
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Are we talking Parisian or Roman or Barcelonan zoning because in my opinion the best form of zoning to support High speed rail is the grid of the commissioner's plan.
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Likely something which follows European planning in general. Depends on a city by city basis as well. I think the Barcelona plan would have success as something like 2/3 of the US in situated on a grid.
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Why not look at the way the US cities and their suburbs developed prior to WW2. The patterns of the older neighborhoods, suburbs and communities can support mass transit as well as high speed rail very well.
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Why not look at the way the US and their suburbs developed prior to WW2. The patterns of the older neighborhoods, suburbs and communities can support mass transit as well as high speed rail very well.
Still way to anti-Urban and Spread out. Honestly, anything less dense than London Suburbs is a mistake.
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Old April 9th, 2017, 11:23 AM   #6777
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*wrt this project, the Japanese Asahi newspaper reported Wednesday (April 5) that JR East will not be participating, given concerns of the profitability of the system as planned.


Although I'm disappointed we won't see Japanese trains in California... my guess is that there would be too many compromises needed to get these trains working on the planned route... and it would potentially damage the Japanese brand if it fails... which at this point is looking more likely.

In other news... Japan's focus seems to be 100% on Texas. An interesting 30 minute show on that project: https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/v...lway/20170407/
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Although I'm disappointed we won't see Japanese trains in California...
You will not tell because Japan is missing from this list (listed in alphabetical order):

-China HSR ETO Consortium: China Railway International; Beijing Railway Administration; China Railway Eryuan Engineering Group; China Railway Corp.
-DB International US: DB International USA; Deutsche Bahn; Alternate Concepts; HDR Inc.
-FS First Rail Group: Ferrovie dello Stato Italiane; FirstGroup; Trenitalia; Rete Ferroviaria Italiana CentoStazioni; Italferr; McKinsey & Co. Trenitalia bought National Express Essex Thameside.
-RENFE: RENFE Operadora; Globalvia Inversiones; ADIF.
-Stagecoach Group: Stagecoach Group plc; Coach USA Administration Inc.

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Five international teams of companies – all from nations with well-established passenger rail systems – have submitted their qualifications to handle the early ramp-up operation of California’s future high-speed rail program.
It has nothing to do with one another. This week is the management of the railway operation: commercial policy, maintenance of rolling stock, contingency plans, traffic safety, public safety and civil protection, subcontracting of auxiliary services ...


In February 2015 were tendered the first 15 trains (out of a total of 95) began, each for € 52.23 million with 30 years of maintenance (very cheap, I think, we will see) with 9 manufacturers: Alstom (AGV), Bombardier (Zefiro 380), CRRC (China Railway Rolling Stock Corporation: CRH380A), Hitachi (AT400), Hyundai Rotem (HEMU 430X), Kawasaki (N700-i as Taiwan), Siemens (Velaro) CRRC (CNR Tangshan: CRH380B), and Talgo (Avril). They ask for 350 km/h (389 in tests), 30 years of minimum duration, 450 seats in a single floor, Cafeteria, 210 m, 88 dB at 25 m at 249 km/h and 96 db to 350.
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High Speed Rail To Las Vegas Breaks Ground 2017



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XpressWest, the federally authorized high speed passenger railroad with plans to connect Las Vegas to Southern California, has plans to break ground in mid-2017. Initially, the timeline had construction beginning in 2016, but the company pushed it back to early this year. The High Desert Corridor Joint Power Authority, based in San Bernardino, released a study stating that upon completion in 2035, the high-speed train system would attract 11 million riders and generate over $1 billion annually. The initial segment of the Las Vegas segment of high speed rail is planned between Palmdale and Las Vegas, and will be attached to the existing service from Palmdale, which is planned to integrate high speed rail between Northern and Southern California. This $8 billion-dollar project is projected for completion in 2021. It is expected to transport 3 million riders and bring in an estimated $300 million in annually.
Part of what makes the high-speed rail system so attractive to travelers is that it provides a combination of luxury and economy in one package. When complete, the train will make the 270-mile run from Los Angeles to Las Vegas along the I-15 corridor in under 2 hours for a mere $115 roundtrip. This cuts driving time and airfares by more than half, and the dining and bar cars, as well as the possibility of future private party car, make this an ideal way to travel to Vegas for the weekend. GIven the high availability of great hotel deals and discount entertainment offerings, getting to Vegas is often the most expensive part of the trip. Using the high-speed rail and several other simple tricks to save money, Vegas suddenly opens up to anyone wanting to go.
XpressWest states that visitor trends and demographics clearly state that most believe the “Las Vegas EXPERIENCE” cannot start soon enough. The train service plans to encompass hotel check-in services, dinner and show reservations and multiple entertainment options all on board the train. Additionally, XpressWest states that high-speed rail stands for the future of sustainable, green energy and efficient high capacity transportation throughout the United States, making it a very popular alternative to fossil fuel transportation.
One of the major setbacks in the progress towards construction was the withdrawal of over $100 million in funding from China Railway International, who was looking to expand its operations outside of China as high-speed train market growth has recently slowed. Another challenge to initiating construction is the federal government’s behest that the trains be domestically built in order to obtain regulatory and compliance approval and, at this time, there are no high-speed trains built in the U.S. At this point, the company has not confirmed securing another investor nor has it updated its timeline, however, XpressWest CEO Tony Marnell stated that he was “encouraged by President Trumps vision for upgraded infrastructure in the U.S.”
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Old April 11th, 2017, 11:01 AM   #6780
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Why does a line through the desert take 18 years to get built?
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