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Old November 30th, 2014, 04:06 PM   #341
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Here is where I disagree with you. Take a look at the Osaka monorail - operates as a "connector" line across northern "suburban" Osaka. It's 28km long. It carries 38.72 million people (when it first opened it carried only 4.69 million people in 1990). Ridership has grown nearly every year. There are other examples in Japan of very successful monorail systems. A monorail system has also been used as a metro in Chongqing in China, and the new line 3 for Daegu is a monorail line in South Korea. There is nothing intrinsically wrong with monorails at all, and they can operate as rapid transit or over long distances as their riderships in Asia attest.

I still disagree with you that there was nothing wrong with the Sydney monorail.
Of course there are monorails systems that work, no doubt about that at all. But the mono rails you are talking about have more in common with a metro train system (dual track, full sized trains etc) compared to the type of monorail that was in Sydney.

As for Sydney you disagree care to share how or what you disagree with? If it was such a failure why?
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Old November 30th, 2014, 04:38 PM   #342
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Of course there are monorails systems that work, no doubt about that at all. But the mono rails you are talking about have more in common with a metro train system (dual track, full sized trains etc) compared to the type of monorail that was in Sydney.

As for Sydney you disagree care to share how or what you disagree with? If it was such a failure why?
It wasn't a real public transport system, more a tourist train. I couldn't justify taking it when I was in Sydney - was easier and more fun to just walk. I never felt it was a real transport system - and being unidirectional exacerbated that fact.
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Old December 1st, 2014, 09:26 AM   #343
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It wasn't a real public transport system, more a tourist train. I couldn't justify taking it when I was in Sydney - was easier and more fun to just walk. I never felt it was a real transport system - and being unidirectional exacerbated that fact.
Correct it was more or less a tourist train and never pretended to be anything else. So I stand by my statement it did, for 25 years what it was designed to do. So that can hardly be a failure.
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Old December 5th, 2014, 04:20 PM   #344
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From the Sydney Morning Herald

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Sydney's trams to be the world's longest


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Back in the 1940s, Sydney could boast the most heavily used tram system the world had ever seen.

The city could be making a different boast in a few years: Sydney's trams may soon be the world's longest.

After a series of design changes, Transport Minister Gladys Berejiklian this week confirmed the new light rail vehicles to run from George Street to Randwick and Kingsford in the eastern suburbs would be 67 metres long.



Construction workers organise the implementation of the light rail system in the CBD. Photo: James Alcock

That is a few metres short of a Boeing 747. It is almost four times as long as one of State Transit's bendy buses. It is double the length of the longest tram in Melbourne. And it is about half the length of some George Street blocks.

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In fact, it is extremely difficult to find any cities in the world running trams as long as those now planned for Sydney.

Sydney's 67-metre trams will be two vehicles coupled together, manufactured by the French conglomerate Alstom.

A similar system is used in the Moroccan city of Casablanca, where two Alstom Citadis vehicles are coupled to run as 65-metre trams. The Jerusalem light rail system also runs 65-metre-long trams.

When asked to nominate other cities that could have longer trams than Sydney's, Transport for NSW also suggested Tunis, the Tunisian capital, which also couples two Alstom vehicles together.

And it suggested Paris, where the city's T2 line uses similar rolling stock. But that line uses mainly an old railway corridor, rather than running the trams through streets mixed with traffic and pedestrians.

The reason Transport for NSW has extended the length of the trams to run on the new project, which will be built during the next five years, is to add more room for passengers.

"The investment in the longer vehicles and additional capacity provides significant benefits for public transport customers from day one of service," a spokesman said.

Under earlier plans for the light rail line, 45-metre trams capable of carrying 300 people each were proposed to run down George Street at an initial frequency of every three minutes in peak periods. Services would branch to Randwick and Kingsford, and arrive every six minutes.

But the new plan is to run the 67-metre vehicles, capable of carrying 466 people, every four minutes down George Street in the peak. At Randwick and Kingsford, this would mean services would run every eight minutes.

Ms Berejiklian has said the new arrangements offered room for 15 per cent more passengers in peak periods, and 33 per cent more seats through the day.

A Sydney tram expert, Greg Sutherland, said there was a trend across the world to move to larger trams.

"The more people you can get on for one driver the better off you are in terms of operating cost," Mr Sutherland said.

Another advantage may be that, in joining two vehicles together, there is less chance of mechanical trouble for one vehicle blocking a tram line. The second vehicle could push or pull the other the vehicle with mechanical failures.

But Venietta Slama-Powell, the convener of PUSH, a group attempting to stop construction of the light rail project, said she had multiple concerns about the 67-metre trams.

She said the trams would take more time to cross intersections at streets such as South Dowling Street and Bourke Street. And, after recent incidents involving pedestrians and buses in central Sydney, she raised safety concerns. "Buses are far shorter and going at slower speeds than what is proposed for the light rail," she said.

Before the Labor government of Joseph Cahill started to remove Sydney's tram lines in the 1950s, the city had one of the most extensive networks in the world.

According to a recent report by The Bureau of Infrastructure, Transport and Regional Economics, Sydney in the late 1940s had "probably the most heavily patronised tram system, in terms of per capita usage, the world has yet seen".

More than 400,000 people a day rode on Sydney's trams in the late 1940s.

Fairfax Media has previously revealed that costs for the light rail project had blown out from $1.6 billion to $2.2 billion.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/sydneys-tr...04-11ztba.html
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Old December 11th, 2014, 10:44 PM   #345
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Sydney Ferries | New wharves at Barangaroo (Western side of the CBD)


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Old December 18th, 2014, 07:30 AM   #346
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CBD and South East Light Rail contract awarded with earlier delivery date

Minister for Transport Gladys Berejiklian today announced that the contract to design, construct, operate and maintain the $2.1 billion CBD and South East Light Rail line has been awarded, meaning reduced congestion and faster journey times in the CBD.

Major construction of the project is now expected to finish in 2018, and services scheduled to commence in early 2019, almost a year earlier than originally expected.

The contract was signed late tonight with the ALTRAC Light Rail consortium...

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Old December 18th, 2014, 03:32 PM   #347
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This and the NWRL, just in time for the 2019 state election I'd presume?
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Old December 18th, 2014, 04:18 PM   #348
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This and the NWRL, just in time for the 2019 state election I'd presume?
At this stage looking like it will be an at least three term government.
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Old December 23rd, 2014, 08:50 PM   #349
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Milsons Point Station - New Hop Signage by kypros1992, on Flickr


A15 Meadowbank by james.sanders2, on Flickr


Gritty... by Nathan Murphy, on Flickr


Waratah via duct by Nathan Murphy, on Flickr


Changing times... by Nathan Murphy, on Flickr


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Old December 27th, 2014, 06:02 AM   #350
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Photo thanks to Fabian of the redeveloped Chatswood Station showing the new retail stores that have opened. The train line is above on the right hand side.


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Mu goodness many years ago I lived in Chatswood (and loved it) now I don`t even recognise the station.
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Chatswood really is a great example of transit-orientated development surrounding a rail station - best in Australia by far, and a textbook case for developments in low sprawl suburbia ( which when you get away from the railway station/commercial area, that's what Chatswood and surrounding suburbs are)
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NSW's southwest rail link to open soon
JANUARY 01, 2015

THOUSANDS of commuters in Sydney's southwest will soon have access to new rail stations, which will open a year ahead of schedule

TWO stations - at Leppington and Edmundson Park - will open on February 8 after more than three years of construction and months of testing.

Eight trains will run every 30 minutes from Liverpool to Leppington, stopping at Edmundson Park and Glenfield.

Commuters will be able to change trains to connect with services across Sydney, including the CBD and Parramatta.

NSW Premier Mike Baird says the South West Rail Link opens $300 million under budget.

"The good news is, we have found the money, done the construction and testing, now it's under way," he said on Thursday.

"It's what southwestern Sydney needs."

Parking spaces will open alongside the stations and new bus routes will include the stations as stops
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You can now track the progress of the TBMs on the North West Rail Link.


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http://nwrail.transport.nsw.gov.au/TBM-Tracker
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How many km left to build?
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How many km left to build?
Still a long way to go. There's 15km worth of tunnels and only a couple of km's at each starting point has been done so far. All four TBMs are in the ground now so the pace should pick up.

Here's a documentary I found on youtube from last year about the project.
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Nice map by Mubd.

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Old February 8th, 2015, 03:12 PM   #359
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If the two tramway lines connect at Central,will it be possible to create a 3rd line (Randwick High Cross to Dulwich Hill)?
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No point in creating a "3rd line"...the number of people who want to travel from the east (Randwick and Kingsford lines) to the inner-west (ie the Dulwich Hill line) would be minimal.
Anyway with our Opal travel card the transfer is free and charged as one journey.
And the new lines will run with different style trams (Alstom) allowing catenary free sections.
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