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Old July 26th, 2017, 06:26 PM   #701
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From Sydney Morning Herald

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Why Sydney's new light rail trams won't carry passengers on inner west line
JULY 26 2017 - 2:57PM



Different standards for Sydney's inner west light rail line and a new $2.1 billion line from the central city to the south east mean trams carrying passengers won't be able to switch between the two.

The standards differ on a range of measures including gaps between platforms and carriages, height and width of the actual track, clearances between the track corridor and its surrounds, and distance between the back wheels of the trams

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Old July 26th, 2017, 09:01 PM   #702
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Another incompatibility, reminds me Sofia and Rio De Janeiro.
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Old July 27th, 2017, 01:30 AM   #703
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They are making the same mistake as in Paris!Tramway lines in Paris cannot interconnect because of many differencies between lines...What a mistake!
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Old July 27th, 2017, 02:52 AM   #704
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Do they at least have a reason why? Other than train width I see no legitimate reasons why you should make it different.
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Old July 27th, 2017, 10:12 AM   #705
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Do they at least have a reason why? Other than train width I see no legitimate reasons why you should make it different.
The reason is Alstom and Systra. You don't go and order something from Alstom.
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Old July 28th, 2017, 08:44 AM   #706
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First new tram secretly arrived to Sydney:
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Old July 28th, 2017, 03:17 PM   #707
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Do they at least have a reason why? Other than train width I see no legitimate reasons why you should make it different.
Gaps and height would be minimal difference, it's prob car width.
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Old July 30th, 2017, 02:38 AM   #708
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The reason is Alstom and Systra. You don't go and order something from Alstom.
So you're basically saying that these French companies use the trick of setting their own standards in order to make it difficult for future competitors - where they can get away with it because the client is too uninformed to set standards in advance?

In Sydney, the government agency is only just starting to compile tramway standards now. Too late to prevent this.
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Old July 30th, 2017, 07:47 PM   #709
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So you're basically saying that these French companies use the trick of setting their own standards in order to make it difficult for future competitors - where they can get away with it because the client is too uninformed to set standards in advance?

In Sydney, the government agency is only just starting to compile tramway standards now. Too late to prevent this.
Systra and Alstom are offering good money for obtaining monopoly Go figure.

Systra has complete monopoly in Africa for example, Systra makes tram project or Alstom itself and they deliver everything including rolling stock.

Citadis trams for systems that are being built specially for Citadis trams.

Catenary free operation with third rail is also french special patented technology and no other trams then citadis can work on it so yes they obtained monopoly thanks to Australian government.




Systra made Gold Coast tram project and all the measurments were meant specially for Citadis trams, then independent consultants got involved and they changed line profile and dimensions gaps and everything, embettered lots of stuff so in final case Bombardier won the tender and not Alstom.

Alstom wanted to deliver rolling stock without tender as always they want.
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Old July 31st, 2017, 01:02 AM   #710
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In Paris (France) many tramway lines cannot connect with one another (which is so stupid!),but these Tram lines where all built for Citadis operation.Why is That then? (I think it ia a problem of width)....
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Systra made Gold Coast tram project and all the measurments were meant specially for Citadis trams, then independent consultants got involved and they changed line profile and dimensions gaps and everything, embettered lots of stuff so in final case Bombardier won the tender and not Alstom.
The Sydney project is run by the New South Wales State Government. Gold Coast Light Rail was commissioned by a smarter Queensland State Government!

The only information I can find about Systra's involvement in the Gold Coast project is that they designed the depot layout. Do you know of any other involvement by Systra in this project?
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In fact many cities around the world made a big mistake. I don't know the "good reason" to tear the trams. But I know that the cities which have preserved its trams network have a better public transport than the cities which didn't. Melbourne, for example, has preserved the trams and its public transport network is better than Sydney.
That's why Melbourne still relies on its old street car network with slow trams. To run heavier modern rolling stock, the network needs to be rebuilt anyway.
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The Sydney project is run by the New South Wales State Government. Gold Coast Light Rail was commissioned by a smarter Queensland State Government!

The only information I can find about Systra's involvement in the Gold Coast project is that they designed the depot layout. Do you know of any other involvement by Systra in this project?
They designed the whole line but then it was remade by German specialists.
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Old August 20th, 2017, 07:06 PM   #715
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Opal figures show skyrocketing passenger demand on Sydney train lines
AUGUST 17 2017

Passenger demand for trains in Sydney has risen by almost 20 per cent on some lines in just a year, new figures show, underscoring the strain on the city's rail network.

The number of trips taken on the T7 Olympic Park Line surged by 19.6 per cent to almost 180,000 in July, compared with the same month a year earlier, reflecting the pace of growth in residential development in and around the former Olympic precinct.

Patronage on the city's busiest line the T1, which includes western, north shore and northern services, rose by 10 per cent over the year, government figures based on Opal card usage shows.

Across the rail network, trips increased by more than 11 per cent, or 3.1 million, to 30.7 million in July, compared with the prior period.

More: http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/opal-figur...11-gxubre.html
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Old August 31st, 2017, 04:08 PM   #716
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New Sydney Trains Timetable

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From 26 November 2017 customers can look forward to:

  • More than 1,500 extra weekly services, including more than 750 on weekends
  • 71 per cent of stations will now receive a minimum 15-minute service frequency across most of the day - a 43 per cent increase.
  • More than 40 per cent increase in the number of services stopping at Parramatta, to support Sydney’s second CBD as well as a 22 per cent increase at Penrith
  • Big improvements for South West Sydney with 92 per cent more services stopping at Leppington and Edmondson Park, and 20 per cent more services stopping at Glenfield Station.
  • More than 200 extra services each week on the T8 South and Airport line in non-peak times, as well as an extra 20 express trains per week in peak hour for Campbelltown and Macarthur customers to the CBD via the T8 Airport Line
  • Faster weekday services to and from Liverpool on the T3 Line via Bankstown
  • More than 250 express trains every week between Parramatta and the Sydney CBD, including 20 express trains during peak hours
  • 24 new express services between the Sydney CBD and the Blue Mountains on weekends
  • More than 160 new weekend T5 Richmond and Leppington Line services connecting South Western Sydney, Western Sydney and North West Sydney to expand services that currently run on weekdays only
  • Direct access to Parramatta for Inner West customers which removes the need to change trains at Strathfield and greater frequency from popular stations like Stanmore with a 15 per cent increase in services across the week.
More: https://www.transport.nsw.gov.au/pro...-more-services







Additionally, the network map has been reworked to reflect the changes in travel patterns brought about by the new timetable:



Map changes: http://i.imgur.com/iaZN4I1.png
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Old September 21st, 2017, 01:25 AM   #717
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Sydenham to Bankstown upgrade - new station designs released

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Punchbowl


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Old September 26th, 2017, 01:31 PM   #718
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From Metro Report

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Sydney Metro’s first trainset arrives
26 Sep 2017



AUSTRALIA: Sydney Metro announced the delivery of its first trainset to the Rouse Hill depot on September 26.

Alstom is supplying 22 six-car Metropolis driverless trainsets, together with Urbalis 400 communications-based train control, Iconis control systems and Smartlock 400 computer-based interlocking under a €280m contract awarded in September 2014

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