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Old December 17th, 2010, 05:28 PM   #41
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Please, this is Qatar AFC Cup 2011 thread, no Qatar WC 2022.
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Old December 17th, 2010, 08:04 PM   #42
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Please, this is Qatar AFC Cup 2011 thread, no Qatar WC 2022.
Yes please ignore the disgrace of 2022 and keep locking threads that relate to it despite the fact that 99.99% of the world are disgusted by the decision. Lets pretend it didnt happen!
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Yes please ignore the disgrace of 2022 and keep locking threads that relate to it despite the fact that 99.99% of the world are disgusted by the decision. Lets pretend it didnt happen!
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Old December 18th, 2010, 04:15 AM   #44
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I find it pathetic that Doha didn't make a bigger effort to get everything ready for a June Asian Cup if they ever had any ambitions of hosting a WC.
It makes no sense.Too dangerous for the Asian Cup but not for the World Cup
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Old December 18th, 2010, 09:34 AM   #45
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I find it pathetic that Doha didn't make a bigger effort to get everything ready for a June Asian Cup if they ever had any ambitions of hosting a WC.
It makes no sense.Too dangerous for the Asian Cup but not for the World Cup
I will repeat myself,
The Asian Cup unlike the World Cup, is far more flexible in terms of tournament timing, there are 2 slots offered to Qatar, the summer and winter ones, obviously Qatar went for the easier one, why would they choose the harder timing ?

For example:

Singapore 1984: December
Qatar 1988: December
Japan 1992: Oct - Nov
UAE 1996: December
Lebanon 2000: October
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Old December 18th, 2010, 09:53 AM   #46
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I will repeat myself,
The Asian Cup unlike the World Cup, is far more flexible in terms of tournament timing, there are 2 slots offered to Qatar, the summer and winter ones, obviously Qatar went for the easier one, why would they choose the harder timing ?

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Singapore 1984: December
Qatar 1988: December
Japan 1992: Oct - Nov
UAE 1996: December
Lebanon 2000: October
they all could choose the winter timing, but when Qatar does it, its wrong !! Double-standard !!
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Old December 18th, 2010, 10:14 AM   #47
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they all could choose the winter timing, but when Qatar does it, its wrong !! Double-standard !!
Exactly !

Other than that, if Qatar was offered the winter timing in the 2nd half of 2011 then it would have been a busy timing of the year due to the Pan Arab Games hosted in Doha at that time.

So it seems that 2011 has a good schedule in terms of events, In Qatar that is.
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Old December 18th, 2010, 01:21 PM   #48
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Exactly !

Other than that, if Qatar was offered the winter timing in the 2nd half of 2011 then it would have been a busy timing of the year due to the Pan Arab Games hosted in Doha at that time.

So it seems that 2011 has a good schedule in terms of events, In Qatar that is.
You refuse to answer my question.
Why didn't Qatar choose June for the Asian Cup to show the World they were not afraid and to prove the technology works.You already have cooling technology in place at stadiums-you've said it many times

You also forgot to say that the last 2 Asian Cups have been in July since the AFC standardised the timeslot.Of course the other hosts chose July so they wouldn't inconvenience the top Asian players or their clubs,but also so that the AFC maximized exposure to the Asian Cup-rather than compete with Europe and many other leagues which will be in play
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Old December 18th, 2010, 11:29 PM   #49
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You refuse to answer my question.
Why didn't Qatar choose June for the Asian Cup to show the World they were not afraid and to prove the technology works.You already have cooling technology in place at stadiums-you've said it many times

You also forgot to say that the last 2 Asian Cups have been in July since the AFC standardised the timeslot.Of course the other hosts chose July so they wouldn't inconvenience the top Asian players or their clubs,but also so that the AFC maximized exposure to the Asian Cup-rather than compete with Europe and many other leagues which will be in play
I answered your question many times, Qatar went for the easier option.

When did i claim our stadiums have cooling technology, only one has it and its included in the 5 stadiums for this tournament, the other buildings would have needed too much renovation.

Not only did they choose July due to the so called "inconvenience" for them but also the fact that whatever timing of the year it was it didnt make a difference for them.
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Old December 19th, 2010, 09:00 AM   #50
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Doha went for the easy option rather than trying to prove to the world how truly fantastic the technology it,and that a World Cup would not be dangerous in Qatar amongst the 46.3 degree average of June and July in Doha.
For the price of Argentina's vote you could have put cooling technology into 4 other stadiums

Not only did you pass up the chance for a "test " event for the ultimate in June/July 2022 but you gave the World extra incentive to be highly sceptical that your incredibly massive ground breaking bribes are less effective than your incredibly massive ground breaking promises

Shame on Qatar
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Doha went for the easy option rather than trying to prove to the world how truly fantastic the technology it,and that a World Cup would not be dangerous in Qatar amongst the 46.3 degree average of June and July in Doha.
For the price of Argentina's vote you could have put cooling technology into 4 other stadiums

Not only did you pass up the chance for a "test " event for the ultimate in June/July 2022 but you gave the World extra incentive to be highly sceptical that your incredibly massive ground breaking bribes are less effective than your incredibly massive ground breaking promises

Shame on Qatar
Well said.
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Prove What ? we're hosting the Asian cup in Jan, whether you like it or not. besides, there is one stadium that is Air conditioned "which will be used during the Asian cup"

the whole A/C Idea came up for the world cup bid and it will take some time to implement, 12 yrs is more than enough to prove that. Asian cup has nothing to do with this.


you can keep on going with your "conspiracy theories" as long as you want.

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Old December 19th, 2010, 05:12 PM   #53
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About that cooling system, I have to stand in Qatar's defence.

They decided to use that for 2022 WC, and not for this competition. AFC Cup was awarded to Qatar on July 27 2007. Three and a half years ago, even before they started to bid for WC (in early 2009). So stories about testing cooling system on AFC Cup are ridiculous, especially when we see that there was short period before WC 2022 host decision and this tournament. And, as much as I understand civil engineering (studying it), I think there is no chance to build those machines and to build roofs on those stadiums in such a short period of time.

So, please, stop speaking about cooling system.

And, also, some AFC Cups in past (2000, 1996, 1992) were held in December, November, so there is no need to speak of this too, and there is no need to change schedule because of Australia.
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Prove What ? we're hosting the Asian cup in Jan, whether you like it or not. besides, there is one stadium that is Air conditioned "which will be used during the Asian cup"

the whole A/C Idea came up for the world cup bid and it will take some time to implement, 12 yrs is more than enough to prove that. Asian cup has nothing to do with this.


you can keep on going with your "conspiracy theories" as long as you want.

over 100,000 tickets sold so far...
137,000 according to my tickets for the opening match
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About that cooling system, I have to stand in Qatar's defence.

They decided to use that for 2022 WC, and not for this competition. AFC Cup was awarded to Qatar on July 27 2007. Three and a half years ago, even before they started to bid for WC (in early 2009). So stories about testing cooling system on AFC Cup are ridiculous, especially when we see that there was short period before WC 2022 host decision and this tournament. And, as much as I understand civil engineering (studying it), I think there is no chance to build those machines and to build roofs on those stadiums in such a short period of time.

So, please, stop speaking about cooling system.

And, also, some AFC Cups in past (2000, 1996, 1992) were held in December, November, so there is no need to speak of this too, and there is no need to change schedule because of Australia.
Not to mention Australia is offered two time slots as well for the 2015 tournament (if announced as hosts).
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Old December 19th, 2010, 10:41 PM   #56
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according to some articles and Wikipedia, Australia will host it in January too for 2015 when announced next month
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Australia has been confirmed as the sole bidder for the 2015 AFC Asian Cup.[2] It is believed that Australia will therefore host the 2015 Asian Cup, and many AFC officials have already expressed their support for Australia. If successful, they will host the event in January 2015.
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Answer me this
Why wasn't Australia announced as the 2015 Asian Cup hosts before the bidding process for 2022 was over-even though we are the only bidders.Answer-political interference
Australia-like 200 of the 208 Football Associations,would hold the World Cup in June and July.Its Qatar that needs to prove something regarding the ability to hold at the prescribed June/July period.
Qatar have known for years that they were bidding on the WC,thats why they went for the Asian Cup 2011 and the Club World Cup in 2009
They have had plenty of time to organise a June Asian Cup and get on the front foot to remove many of the massive doubts about tiny Qatar's 2022 World Cup

To move the World Cup to January would put many European Clubs viability at risk and would see player boycotts and a massive drop in revenue and ratings for FIFA
It would alter all WCQ schedules

Play the 2022 FIFA World Cup in 46.3 degrees-every day

Fantastic for those that want instant sun cancer

As for 100,000 tickets being sold-whoopee do-you have 700 million people ,you keep saying.
So far you've captured .0001428% of the local population


Play 2022 in Tiny Qatar in June/July--------as per bid
Will be amazing to see just how many teams boycott the event-especially Europeans who are afraid of the thought
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Just noticed discussion in Australia now about this fantastic precedent of changing the time of the World Cup to the opposite time of the year when world schedules are flat out and also dropping the minimum size of a host city to 5,500.The great thing about moving the World Cup to January is that FIFA would set a precedent so that they could continue to devalue the broadcast rights and sponsorships for ever more.From now on countries will just present a bid for whatever time of year and in only 1 city if they choose and it will be all good.
Europe and World schedules and World Cup Qualifying for the previous 2 years can just be re scheduled .
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Old December 21st, 2010, 06:45 PM   #59
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Asian cup panel signs deal on volunteers


The AFC Asian Cup Qatar 2011’s Local Organising Committee and the Qatar Centre For Voluntary Work (QCFVA) yesterday signed an agreement on volunteers for the tournament scheduled from January 7-29.
According to the agreement, QCFVA will provide some 1,600 volunteers to perform a wide variety of roles around Doha including the main Media Centre at the Aspire Zone as well as at the competition venues – Khalifa Stadium, Al-Rayyan, Al-Gharafa, Al-Sadd and Qatar Sports Club.
The signing ceremony was attended by Saoud al-Mohannadi, CEO of the Asian Cup Local Organising Committee and Yousef Ali al-Kazim, the QCFVA secretary general.
The AFC Asian Cup Qatar 2011 will feature national teams from: Qatar, Kuwait, China, Uzbekistan, Saudi Arabia, Japan, Jordan, Syria, Korea Republic, India, Australia, Bahrain, Iraq, DPR Korea, UAE and Iran.
The opening match features Qatar versus Uzbekistan on January 7, at Khalifa Stadium.
Al-Kazim said his centre has always shown interest in contributing to Qatar by providing volunteering services.
“All the volunteers coming from QCFVA are an essential part of the Asian Cup and signing the agreement today is clear evidence of the partnership between QCFVA and the Local Organising Committee AFC Asian Cup Qatar 2011,” al-Kazim added.
Earlier, the centre has been interviewing volunteers from October 15 to December 15, with more than 3,500 volunteers interviewed.
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The AFC Asian Cup Qatar 2011’s Local Organising Committee and the Qatar Centre For Voluntary Work (QCFVA) yesterday signed an agreement on volunteers for the tournament scheduled from January 7-29.
According to the agreement, QCFVA will provide some 1,600 volunteers to perform a wide variety of roles around Doha including the main Media Centre at the Aspire Zone as well as at the competition venues – Khalifa Stadium, Al-Rayyan, Al-Gharafa, Al-Sadd and Qatar Sports Club.
The signing ceremony was attended by Saoud al-Mohannadi, CEO of the Asian Cup Local Organising Committee and Yousef Ali al-Kazim, the QCFVA secretary general.
The AFC Asian Cup Qatar 2011 will feature national teams from: Qatar, Kuwait, China, Uzbekistan, Saudi Arabia, Japan, Jordan, Syria, Korea Republic, India, Australia, Bahrain, Iraq, DPR Korea, UAE and Iran.
The opening match features Qatar versus Uzbekistan on January 7, at Khalifa Stadium.
Al-Kazim said his centre has always shown interest in contributing to Qatar by providing volunteering services.
“All the volunteers coming from QCFVA are an essential part of the Asian Cup and signing the agreement today is clear evidence of the partnership between QCFVA and the Local Organising Committee AFC Asian Cup Qatar 2011,” al-Kazim added.
Earlier, the centre has been interviewing volunteers from October 15 to December 15, with more than 3,500 volunteers interviewed.
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