#Completed: 55 Elizabeth Street (ATO - Treasury Row) 15s/office - Page 16

neilo63 · June 9th, 2011, 02:16 PM

Me thinks this will be a super quick build.

nathandavid88 · June 10th, 2011, 12:16 AM

Yeah, it shouldn't take too long at all. It's only a 12 story after all.

BrissyMan1 · June 10th, 2011, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by nathandavid88

Yeah, it shouldn't take too long at all. It's only a 12 story after all.

Needs to be completed by Mid 2013 for ATO's occupation.

yuma · June 10th, 2011, 12:25 PM

Its actually 15 stories. But yeah ATO need to be in in 2 years. They will probably be in the ground for 6 months, then you will start to see it rise pretty quickly.

duke · July 2nd, 2011, 07:36 AM

Not much left now! Taken Saturday 2 July.

Locke · July 2nd, 2011, 12:49 PM

So sad to think Empire Square could have risen here, sniff, that should be Empire Square they are doing prep work for, not some little piddler!

nathandavid88 · July 2nd, 2011, 01:33 PM

That's one of the annoying things about this project. While I would have rather not lost the Printery or Treasury Row at all, it wouldn't have been so painful if what we were getting in return was something that was architecturally brilliant/iconic, which this just isn't!

NCC1701D · July 3rd, 2011, 02:07 PM

That demolition work exposes the piece of shit that is the Myer Centre. I've always hated the Elizabeth St side of that !!

Chuckeh · July 3rd, 2011, 06:59 PM

why did they even bother with the 'decorative' arches

***BrizzyChris*** · July 3rd, 2011, 11:44 PM

Come 15yrs down the track, and hopefully someone buys up the Myer Centre and completely refurbs it - complete with 90+ storey hotel/office tower on top.

nathandavid88 · July 4th, 2011, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuckeh

why did they even bother with the 'decorative' arches

It was probably considered a stylish feature back in the 80s that hasn't aged well. Look at Broadway and the pre-reno Wintergarden; same issue!

There are some relatively inexpensive things that they could surely do as a stop gap to freshen it up - repaint it, clean the windows and possibly replace the glass, put up some artworks inside the arches, or maybe paint them individual colours just to break up the uniform beige/cream colour. Also look at repaving the footpath along that part and reconfiguring it to include a few more coffee shops or something. Almost anything would help!

A full redevelopment would be best though, just as long as the Queen St facades are all kept!

Looking at the site towards Charlotte St doesn't make it any better, as we get the whole backend of the Telstra Exchange. Covering it up is one of the only pros I see in Grocon's short stack, though something better could have done the job just as well!

Macca-GC · July 4th, 2011, 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by BrizzyChris

Come 15yrs down the track, and hopefully someone buys up the Myer Centre and completely refurbs it - complete with 90+ storey hotel/office tower on top.

Then you can also rebuild Queen Street Bus station to:
Increase capacity
Improve connectivity (from an operations perspective--Looking at you: Platform B)
Improve links to the rest of the centre (Platform C!!!)
Build an underground walkway to KGS

nathandavid88 · July 4th, 2011, 04:32 AM

I think that there are plans for a revamp of the Queen St Bus Station to try and address some of it's issues, but the issue I believe is (of course) squabbling between BCC, who I believe still own and operate the Station, and Translink.

I can't remember the exact issue, but it relates to who will spend the money and who will take ownership...I think BCC wants Translink to take it, but Translink wants BCC to do the revamp first...or something?

Fyver · July 4th, 2011, 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by nathandavid88

Also look at repaving the footpath along that part

It was concreted about a year ago wasn't it, then they carved it up to make it look like paving. One of the first stretches to get the "new" look I think.

nathandavid88 · July 4th, 2011, 04:54 AM

The lower part near Albert Street was (thank god!), but if you walk up towards George St past the Muffin Break and Ticketek Office, all of that area are still those old brick pavers I'm pretty certain.

nathandavid88 · July 14th, 2011, 04:24 AM

Here's a little update for everyone. I noticed that Grocon's excavation plan had been approved, and while I generally don't look at the these construction-related ones I decided to in this case, and I'm glad I did as it shows some not-insigificant ground floor changes.

The monster retail area on the Family Services Building side will, appropriately, be split into 3 smaller tenancies. Meanwhile, the Laneway retail/cafe tenancy now extends all the way up the side of the building to Elizabeth St (originally it was cut off by a fire services cabinet) and appears to either open onto Elizabeth St as well as into the lane, or has a take away counter facing Elizabeth St, I can't be sure...

For comparison's sake, here's the original layout:

Aussie Bhoy · August 5th, 2011, 08:13 AM

Today

nathandavid88 · August 22nd, 2011, 01:27 PM

Grocon have added 55 Elizabeth to their jobs in progress section of their website, complete with what is the best render of the project I've yet seen.

Uploaded with ImageShack.us

SoulvisionQ1 · August 22nd, 2011, 01:46 PM

"Great activated laneway" - HA to that.

nathandavid88 · August 22nd, 2011, 02:27 PM

I'm trying hard to ignore that, and the demolition images down the side.

The render of the building as a whole doesn't look bad, and as I'm still trying to be an optimist and look for any good parts to this development seeing as we're getting it regardless, it's one plus at least...

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Locke alright, kick-ass Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 4,378 Likes (Received): 187	So sad to think Empire Square could have risen here, sniff, that should be Empire Square they are doing prep work for, not some little piddler! __________________ You had me at meat tornado.

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June 10th, 2011, 12:16 AM	#302
nathandavid88 Registered User Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 5,132 Likes (Received): 280	Yeah, it shouldn't take too long at all. It's only a 12 story after all.

June 10th, 2011, 12:25 PM	#304
yuma Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 570 Likes (Received): 0	Its actually 15 stories. But yeah ATO need to be in in 2 years. They will probably be in the ground for 6 months, then you will start to see it rise pretty quickly.

July 2nd, 2011, 07:36 AM	#305
duke Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Brisbane Posts: 1,441 Likes (Received): 0	Not much left now! Taken Saturday 2 July.

July 2nd, 2011, 01:33 PM	#307
nathandavid88 Registered User Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 5,132 Likes (Received): 280	That's one of the annoying things about this project. While I would have rather not lost the Printery or Treasury Row at all, it wouldn't have been so painful if what we were getting in return was something that was architecturally brilliant/iconic, which this just isn't!

July 3rd, 2011, 02:07 PM	#308
NCC1701D Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Brisbane Posts: 801 Likes (Received): 6	That demolition work exposes the piece of shit that is the Myer Centre. I've always hated the Elizabeth St side of that !!

July 3rd, 2011, 06:59 PM	#309
Chuckeh Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Brisbane Posts: 639 Likes (Received): 40	why did they even bother with the 'decorative' arches

July 3rd, 2011, 11:44 PM	#310
*BrizzyChris* Moderator Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,084 Likes (Received): 149	Come 15yrs down the track, and hopefully someone buys up the Myer Centre and completely refurbs it - complete with 90+ storey hotel/office tower on top.

July 4th, 2011, 04:32 AM	#313
nathandavid88 Registered User Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 5,132 Likes (Received): 280	I think that there are plans for a revamp of the Queen St Bus Station to try and address some of it's issues, but the issue I believe is (of course) squabbling between BCC, who I believe still own and operate the Station, and Translink. I can't remember the exact issue, but it relates to who will spend the money and who will take ownership...I think BCC wants Translink to take it, but Translink wants BCC to do the revamp first...or something?

July 4th, 2011, 04:54 AM	#315
nathandavid88 Registered User Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 5,132 Likes (Received): 280	The lower part near Albert Street was (thank god!), but if you walk up towards George St past the Muffin Break and Ticketek Office, all of that area are still those old brick pavers I'm pretty certain.

July 14th, 2011, 04:24 AM	#316
nathandavid88 Registered User Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 5,132 Likes (Received): 280	Here's a little update for everyone. I noticed that Grocon's excavation plan had been approved, and while I generally don't look at the these construction-related ones I decided to in this case, and I'm glad I did as it shows some not-insigificant ground floor changes. The monster retail area on the Family Services Building side will, appropriately, be split into 3 smaller tenancies. Meanwhile, the Laneway retail/cafe tenancy now extends all the way up the side of the building to Elizabeth St (originally it was cut off by a fire services cabinet) and appears to either open onto Elizabeth St as well as into the lane, or has a take away counter facing Elizabeth St, I can't be sure... For comparison's sake, here's the original layout:

August 5th, 2011, 08:13 AM	#317
Aussie Bhoy Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Brisbane Posts: 5,018 Likes (Received): 86	Today

August 22nd, 2011, 01:27 PM	#318
nathandavid88 Registered User Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 5,132 Likes (Received): 280	Grocon have added 55 Elizabeth to their jobs in progress section of their website, complete with what is the best render of the project I've yet seen. Uploaded with ImageShack.us

August 22nd, 2011, 01:46 PM	#319
SoulvisionQ1 New Urbanist Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Queensland Posts: 4,197 Likes (Received): 79	"Great activated laneway" - HA to that.

August 22nd, 2011, 02:27 PM	#320
nathandavid88 Registered User Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 5,132 Likes (Received): 280	I'm trying hard to ignore that, and the demolition images down the side. The render of the building as a whole doesn't look bad, and as I'm still trying to be an optimist and look for any good parts to this development seeing as we're getting it regardless, it's one plus at least...