#NEVER BUILT: THE LIGHTHOUSE, 15F Res (Dubai Marina) - Page 8

Dubai-Lover · January 13th, 2006, 04:29 PM

today

anacreon · January 29th, 2006, 08:48 AM

I take it that there has been zippo movement in the last couple of weeks?

Dubai Freak · January 30th, 2006, 02:01 PM

After demanding an update on this project yet again from the developer, he has replied with yet another new date for completion.

When he does reply to an enquiry he always quotes 'the construction is on programme'

. . . would you believe it, the completion date has moved on another couple of months & he is now quoting completion December 2006.

There is a new game launched on TLH website, its called spot the worker on the construction site photo's, if he does not put workers on the site it will never get finished

thedubailife · January 30th, 2006, 02:29 PM

All i can think is because a shortage of cranes, workers etc maybe small developers are finding it hard to get things done.

Lets hope things change quickly and for the better soon.

anacreon · February 26th, 2006, 02:01 PM

I've been to look at this site a couple of times in the last month. Never a sign of a worker and no progress at all!

Dubai Freak · February 28th, 2006, 01:54 PM

Anacreon wrote:

Quote:

I've been to look at this site a couple of times in the last month. Never a sign of a worker and no progress at all!

Thanks for the site update anacreon, once again 'no progress reported', not good news for the investors in this project concidering it was planned to be completed Dec 2005.

Further 'constuction updates & photo's' on this project are very appreciated on this forum

thedubailife · February 28th, 2006, 03:47 PM

hmmm looking at the last update it nearly broke ground and should have been rising fast.

I think it's time investors got together and demanded and explaantion, i'm sure there maybe some already doing that and if no luck time for a open letter to skeikh Mohammad.

Surely we cannot have projects like this to give dubai a bad rep. All you want is an honest answer from the developer as to the problem.

DUBAI · March 1st, 2006, 12:48 AM

This is realy bad. they need to get moving...

Krazy · March 1st, 2006, 01:54 AM

People who have bought here need to lift their asses and report these bitch of a developer to Gulf News or something... get your word out in public

thedubailife · March 1st, 2006, 10:47 AM

Your right Krazy thye need to contact the developer ask whats happening and tell them if they don't get an answer, they will be releaseing a press relealse to the media.

And i't not diffcult to get email addresses for the main papers in Dubai. But they need to do it as a collective body somehow. So all investors as one unit not as individuals.

Any investors who visit this site and may need help on this type of issue PM me i will explian how what a press release needs to contain etc.

dubaiflo · March 1st, 2006, 01:29 PM

and thinking of it.. this is not their only project..

Dubai Freak · March 1st, 2006, 02:09 PM

Thanks for your interest & assistance in this thread . . .

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubaiflo

and thinking of it.. this is not their only project..

Here is a little background to the development/developer.

Mr Emad Ayoub operates independently as Ayoubco General Contracting LLC in the UAE (with a UAE partner) after splitting with his Father/Brother's company Ayoubco in Eygpt several years ago. Internet searches show (Mr Ayoub's) Ayoubco GC LLC activity within the UAE, including a current development in Dubai on SZR.

The Lighthouse project is a personal project by Mr Ayoub & not his company Ayoubco, although he has obviously sub-contracted the build to his own company Ayoubco. As an observer & in my opinion, it appears 'build/labour' priorities are being given to his business interests & very occasionally a little is given to his personal project The Lighthouse, this is reflected in the slow construction progress witnessed on this site

Other than a delay in late 2004 regarding the clearing of power & telephone lines passing through the site, I cannot see why it has taken over 18 months to dig the foundations & part build the 3rd basement

dubaiflyer · March 1st, 2006, 05:05 PM

Without wishing to caste aspersions, a private Egyptian taking this much time to carry out a development having taken money from investors on pre-sales sounds decidedly dodgy! May I suggest that it is important for investors to identify and contact the local (sponsor) partner, who may or may not be aware of the situation, and who's reputation in Dubai may be more important to him than to Mr Ayoub. With the prospect of bad publicity blackening his name too, he may take all appropriate action to get the Lighthouse back on track.

Dubai Freak · March 1st, 2006, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubaiflyer

May I suggest that it is important for investors to identify and contact the local (sponsor) partner, who may or may not be aware of the situation, and who's reputation in Dubai may be more important to him than to Mr Ayoub. With the prospect of bad publicity blackening his name too, he may take all appropriate action to get the Lighthouse back on track.

Our Owners Group (Several Investors in TLH) have tried to obtain Mr Ayoub's local (sponsor) partner's name & business, but this has proved difficult. We have recently been given a name, that is 'Al Bustin', but we don't know who he is or how to contact him. (possibly in the Oil Refinery business)

If anybody knows who this guy is; please post it here or PM me, Thanks

anacreon · March 9th, 2006, 10:27 AM

I don't think that contacting Mr Ayoub's local sponsor will help in any way, as the Lighthouse project is one he is doing on his own.

The main problem is, as I have mentioned before, that because most of the apartments were sold quite cheaply, Mr Ayoub is just not going to make much of a profit (if any) on this project and therefore he will only feel inclined to divert workers from his contracting company to work on the Lighthouse if they have any 'free time' in between the other jobs the contracting company is committed to perform.

Krazy · March 9th, 2006, 11:31 AM

yes that's exactly what this person told me about the work progress... workers come when they have time.. .equipment comes when there is extra to spare from mr. ayoub's other projects

Dubai100 · March 13th, 2006, 05:33 PM

Gulf news today stated that Ayoub had remove all his funds and fled the country. See www.Gulfnews.com its under workers not paid/sewage Anyone know anymore on this. I live in Dubai and have been concerned over the slow process. the office informed us that the problem was with Emaar over cables in the ground. Went to the site last week no work going on.

Dubai100 · March 13th, 2006, 05:41 PM

Here is the direct link
http://www.gulfnews.com/nation/Employment/10025164.html

malec · March 13th, 2006, 05:41 PM

So he really did flee Egyptian style

dubaiflo · March 13th, 2006, 05:57 PM

never buy from egyptian developer.

i am veeery curious what is going to happen.

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January 30th, 2006, 02:01 PM	#143
Dubai Freak Watching Dubai Grow . . . Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: UK Posts: 485 Likes (Received): 1	Completion date? After demanding an update on this project yet again from the developer, he has replied with yet another new date for completion. When he does reply to an enquiry he always quotes 'the construction is on programme' . . . would you believe it, the completion date has moved on another couple of months & he is now quoting completion December 2006. There is a new game launched on TLH website, its called spot the worker on the construction site photo's, if he does not put workers on the site it will never get finished

March 1st, 2006, 12:48 AM	#148
DUBAI Under the Burj Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Where the sun shines weakley Posts: 4,304 Likes (Received): 0	This is realy bad. they need to get moving... __________________ "Don't criticize what you can't understand" -Bob Dylan

March 1st, 2006, 01:54 AM	#149
Krazy Kool Kat Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 13,625 Likes (Received): 1	People who have bought here need to lift their asses and report these bitch of a developer to Gulf News or something... get your word out in public __________________ Save Dubai's Workers! Click here and sign the petition!

March 1st, 2006, 01:29 PM	#151
dubaiflo visit my homepage Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Munich \| Dubai \| London Posts: 15,864 Likes (Received): 1	and thinking of it.. this is not their only project.. __________________ DJ Flore - Producer and DJ My Photoblog - Urban \| Event \| Nature \| Portrait Grapevine Grooves - Independent House Music Label Dubai - The Megaprojects - The Video (Version 3 cancelled due to credit crunch)

January 29th, 2006, 08:48 AM	#142
anacreon Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 227 Likes (Received): 0	I take it that there has been zippo movement in the last couple of weeks?

January 30th, 2006, 02:29 PM	#144
thedubailife To Infinty and Beyond Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,202 Likes (Received): 0	All i can think is because a shortage of cranes, workers etc maybe small developers are finding it hard to get things done. Lets hope things change quickly and for the better soon.

February 26th, 2006, 02:01 PM	#145
anacreon Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 227 Likes (Received): 0	I've been to look at this site a couple of times in the last month. Never a sign of a worker and no progress at all!

February 28th, 2006, 03:47 PM	#147
thedubailife To Infinty and Beyond Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,202 Likes (Received): 0	hmmm looking at the last update it nearly broke ground and should have been rising fast. I think it's time investors got together and demanded and explaantion, i'm sure there maybe some already doing that and if no luck time for a open letter to skeikh Mohammad. Surely we cannot have projects like this to give dubai a bad rep. All you want is an honest answer from the developer as to the problem.

March 1st, 2006, 10:47 AM	#150
thedubailife To Infinty and Beyond Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,202 Likes (Received): 0	Your right Krazy thye need to contact the developer ask whats happening and tell them if they don't get an answer, they will be releaseing a press relealse to the media. And i't not diffcult to get email addresses for the main papers in Dubai. But they need to do it as a collective body somehow. So all investors as one unit not as individuals. Any investors who visit this site and may need help on this type of issue PM me i will explian how what a press release needs to contain etc.

March 1st, 2006, 05:05 PM	#153
dubaiflyer Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 349 Likes (Received): 0	Without wishing to caste aspersions, a private Egyptian taking this much time to carry out a development having taken money from investors on pre-sales sounds decidedly dodgy! May I suggest that it is important for investors to identify and contact the local (sponsor) partner, who may or may not be aware of the situation, and who's reputation in Dubai may be more important to him than to Mr Ayoub. With the prospect of bad publicity blackening his name too, he may take all appropriate action to get the Lighthouse back on track.

March 9th, 2006, 10:27 AM	#155
anacreon Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 227 Likes (Received): 0	I don't think that contacting Mr Ayoub's local sponsor will help in any way, as the Lighthouse project is one he is doing on his own. The main problem is, as I have mentioned before, that because most of the apartments were sold quite cheaply, Mr Ayoub is just not going to make much of a profit (if any) on this project and therefore he will only feel inclined to divert workers from his contracting company to work on the Lighthouse if they have any 'free time' in between the other jobs the contracting company is committed to perform.

March 9th, 2006, 11:31 AM	#156
Krazy Kool Kat Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 13,625 Likes (Received): 1	yes that's exactly what this person told me about the work progress... workers come when they have time.. .equipment comes when there is extra to spare from mr. ayoub's other projects __________________ Save Dubai's Workers! Click here and sign the petition!

March 13th, 2006, 05:33 PM	#157
Dubai100 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 6 Likes (Received): 0	Gulf news today stated that Ayoub had remove all his funds and fled the country. See www.Gulfnews.com its under workers not paid/sewage Anyone know anymore on this. I live in Dubai and have been concerned over the slow process. the office informed us that the problem was with Emaar over cables in the ground. Went to the site last week no work going on.

March 13th, 2006, 05:41 PM	#158
Dubai100 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 6 Likes (Received): 0	Here is the direct link http://www.gulfnews.com/nation/Employment/10025164.html

March 13th, 2006, 05:41 PM	#159
malec Rrrraaaaaahhhhhhh!!!!!!! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Cork Posts: 10,452 Likes (Received): 9	So he really did flee Egyptian style

March 13th, 2006, 05:57 PM	#160
dubaiflo visit my homepage Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Munich \| Dubai \| London Posts: 15,864 Likes (Received): 1	never buy from egyptian developer. i am veeery curious what is going to happen. __________________ DJ Flore - Producer and DJ My Photoblog - Urban \| Event \| Nature \| Portrait Grapevine Grooves - Independent House Music Label Dubai - The Megaprojects - The Video (Version 3 cancelled due to credit crunch)

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