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Ashis Mitra · January 9th, 2011, 03:09 PM

OK, but it is still not clear that is Tbilisi now thinking returning tram? if yes, when the tram service will start?

Is there any remains of the previous tram system? Try to post some phtose of the remains.

Tramwayman · January 9th, 2011, 07:48 PM

Haven't you read the first post.??????

Systra is working on post project work and then project work.

After that there will be tender for construqcting network and supplying vehicles.

Fist tram line may be only in 2013 al least if not in 2014 surely.

Yes there are lot's of remains, rails in some parts of city, depot, masts hangers, and all that stuff.

Gag Halfrunt · January 10th, 2011, 01:12 AM

Ashis Mitra is a bit obsessed with old tram systems and their physical remains. Whenever he reads about an old tramway, he asks if buried rails have been discovered during roadworks.

manrush · January 10th, 2011, 07:46 AM

Choosing a tram designed by CAF has other symbolisms to it. Mainly, it is designed in the Iberia of the west. Additionally, CAF-built trams are used by Tbilisi's sister city of Bilbao.

historyworks · January 10th, 2011, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gag Halfrunt

Ashis Mitra is a bit obsessed with old tram systems and their physical remains. Whenever he reads about an old tramway, he asks if buried rails have been discovered during roadworks.

He should come to Sydney, we have plenty of those!

Tramwayman · January 10th, 2011, 02:43 PM

Tbilisi is not choosing anything right now, a ig possibility that trams will be from Alstom those Citadis, with their rigid stupid bogies.

BUt me and many people don't want that in city authority.

But let's see.

Tramwayman · January 13th, 2011, 02:11 PM

Systra should already begin working.

hokomoko · January 22nd, 2011, 06:34 PM

Can you put here some pictures or links, to see how was the the trams and network in the past.

Tramwayman · January 22nd, 2011, 08:48 PM

Tramwayman · January 24th, 2011, 01:10 PM

SPECIALISTS FROM SYSTRA ARE ALREADY IN TBILISI

Work begins 26 of January and will last till 1 April.

This work includes questioning 8000 families of Tbilisi about transport

Tramwayman · January 27th, 2011, 03:57 PM

Las night Stephen Cohen was killed in Tbilisi

systra's presenter in Georgia.

Tramwayman · January 27th, 2011, 04:02 PM

http://www.interpressnews.ge/en/just...is-office.html

Stephan Cohen Worked as Engineer at ‘Sistra’ Paris Office
15:23 27-01-2011

Stephan Cohen worked as an engineer at ‘Sistra’ Paris office, Paris office of the Company told InterPressNews by phone .
They say that they were informed about his murder this morning and they can not tell anything until the return of the director of the administration.
‘Sistra’ is a public railway-transportation company headquartered in Paris. It has projects in Africa, Asia, Europe. Agreement with ‘Sistra’ was signed by Tbilisi Mayor Gigi Ugulava and head of Georgian Railway Irakli Ezugbaia on 18 December 2010.
‘Sistra’ carries out project of regulation of transport routes in Tbilisi.
Stephan Cohen was found murdered in his room at the hotel Courtyard Marriott.

Hybrid 87 · January 28th, 2011, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tramwayman

1. What's up with those "modified" Škoda 14Tr (without the middle doors)? Why did they take them out?

2. In the real old tram pics, there are a lot of three section articulated trams, but did I see correctly? Did the middle part had no wheels?

Tramwayman · January 29th, 2011, 12:32 PM

Middle part had no wheels. it's made in Tbilis they made 4 this kind of trams in tram trolley master depot.

There is no trolleybus network in Tbilis nor in other cities of Georgia all were shut down.

Gag Halfrunt · January 29th, 2011, 12:37 PM

Hybrid 87 was asking why the Škoda 14Tr in Tblisi did not have middle doors. That's what he meant by "Why did they take them [the doors] out?".

Tramwayman · January 29th, 2011, 01:10 PM

In Tbilis ther were Skoda 14T's which had not middle doors itself it 50 troleybusses were made especially for Tbilisi and Kiev.

BUt also in Tbilisi the middle door were not using ultimately and they were taken out on some trolleys.

Hybrid 87 · January 29th, 2011, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tramwayman

Middle part had no wheels. it's made in Tbilis they made 4 this kind of trams in tram trolley master depot.

Oh yeah. I remember reading somewhere that they made tram fram trolleybuses

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tramwayman

In Tbilis ther were Skoda 14T's which had not middle doors itself it 50 troleybusses were made especially for Tbilisi and Kiev.

BUt also in Tbilisi the middle door were not using ultimately and they were taken out on some trolleys.

ok. but my question was "why"? Weather extremes (for example Škoda 9Tr was made specially for some soviet union cities with 2 doors due to the weather - cold winters)?

Because as much I remember the 14Tr's all have 3 doors when they came out of the factory (excluding the one's for USA).

Tramwayman · January 29th, 2011, 05:08 PM

50 trolleybuses of Skoda 14Tr were made with two doors for Tbilisi and Kiev.

but Tbilisi's trolleys Skoda 14Tr with 3 doors then were remade as 2 doors because lines were small shut down and passengers were very small amount and 3 door was not needed.

Tramwayman · March 6th, 2011, 08:11 PM

Tbilisi tram system in 1929

Transira · March 7th, 2011, 08:17 AM

Hello,
Does exist project to reintroduce (modern) trolleybuses in Tbilisi?

January 9th, 2011, 07:48 PM	#22
Tramwayman Trams the Best!!! Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Tbilisi Posts: 207 Likes (Received): 1	Haven't you read the first post.?????? Systra is working on post project work and then project work. After that there will be tender for construqcting network and supplying vehicles. Fist tram line may be only in 2013 al least if not in 2014 surely. Yes there are lot's of remains, rails in some parts of city, depot, masts hangers, and all that stuff. __________________ Tram lines the spirit of the city! Each deconstructed tram line makes City soul poor and poor.

January 10th, 2011, 07:46 AM	#24
manrush world socialist citizen Join Date: May 2008 Location: Urban New England Posts: 4,103 Likes (Received): 354	Choosing a tram designed by CAF has other symbolisms to it. Mainly, it is designed in the Iberia of the west. Additionally, CAF-built trams are used by Tbilisi's sister city of Bilbao. __________________ My Flickr account My DeviantArt account My (rarely, if ever, used) Photobucket account My Eyes for Boston, Visions of a Harbour: Boston “If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.” - Malcolm X “Action comes from keeping the heat on. No politician can sit on a hot issue if you make it hot enough.” - Saul Alinsky

January 10th, 2011, 02:43 PM	#26
Tramwayman Trams the Best!!! Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Tbilisi Posts: 207 Likes (Received): 1	Tbilisi is not choosing anything right now, a ig possibility that trams will be from Alstom those Citadis, with their rigid stupid bogies. BUt me and many people don't want that in city authority. But let's see. __________________ Tram lines the spirit of the city! Each deconstructed tram line makes City soul poor and poor.

January 13th, 2011, 02:11 PM	#27
Tramwayman Trams the Best!!! Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Tbilisi Posts: 207 Likes (Received): 1	Systra should already begin working. __________________ Tram lines the spirit of the city! Each deconstructed tram line makes City soul poor and poor.

January 22nd, 2011, 08:48 PM	#29
Tramwayman Trams the Best!!! Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Tbilisi Posts: 207 Likes (Received): 1	http://transphoto.ru/update.php?date=2010-04-03&cid=149 http://transphoto.ru/update.php?date=2010-04-11&cid=149 http://transphoto.ru/update.php?date=2010-10-15&cid=149 http://transphoto.ru/update.php?date=2010-10-16&cid=149 http://transphoto.ru/update.php?date=2010-10-20&cid=149 http://transphoto.ru/update.php?date=2010-10-21&cid=149 http://transphoto.ru/update.php?date=2010-10-22&cid=149 http://transphoto.ru/update.php?date=2010-10-24&cid=149 http://transphoto.ru/update.php?date=2010-10-25&cid=149 http://transphoto.ru/update.php?date=2010-10-26&cid=149 http://transphoto.ru/update.php?date=2010-10-27&cid=149 http://transphoto.ru/update.php?date=2010-10-29&cid=149 http://transphoto.ru/update.php?date=2010-11-16&cid=149 http://transphoto.ru/update.php?date=2010-11-20&cid=149 http://transphoto.ru/update.php?date=2010-11-24&cid=149 http://transphoto.ru/update.php?date=2010-11-25&cid=149 http://transphoto.ru/update.php?date=2010-11-26&cid=149 http://transphoto.ru/update.php?date=2010-11-27&cid=149 http://transphoto.ru/update.php?date=2010-11-28&cid=149 My uncle's tram vehicle number 189 he rode it from start to edn from 1991 august till december 2006. http://transphoto.ru/update.php?date=2010-07-14&cid=149 http://transphoto.ru/update.php?date=2010-07-16&cid=149 http://transphoto.ru/update.php?date=2010-07-15&cid=149 __________________ Tram lines the spirit of the city! Each deconstructed tram line makes City soul poor and poor.

January 9th, 2011, 03:09 PM	#21
Ashis Mitra Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Kolkata Posts: 1,175 Likes (Received): 15	OK, but it is still not clear that is Tbilisi now thinking returning tram? if yes, when the tram service will start? Is there any remains of the previous tram system? Try to post some phtose of the remains.

January 10th, 2011, 01:12 AM	#23
Gag Halfrunt Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 733 Likes (Received): 0	Ashis Mitra is a bit obsessed with old tram systems and their physical remains. Whenever he reads about an old tramway, he asks if buried rails have been discovered during roadworks.

January 22nd, 2011, 06:34 PM	#28
hokomoko Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: istanbul Posts: 268 Likes (Received): 0	Can you put here some pictures or links, to see how was the the trams and network in the past.

January 24th, 2011, 01:10 PM	#30
Tramwayman Trams the Best!!! Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Tbilisi Posts: 207 Likes (Received): 1	SPECIALISTS FROM SYSTRA ARE ALREADY IN TBILISI Work begins 26 of January and will last till 1 April. This work includes questioning 8000 families of Tbilisi about transport __________________ Tram lines the spirit of the city! Each deconstructed tram line makes City soul poor and poor.

January 27th, 2011, 03:57 PM	#31
Tramwayman Trams the Best!!! Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Tbilisi Posts: 207 Likes (Received): 1	Las night Stephen Cohen was killed in Tbilisi systra's presenter in Georgia. __________________ Tram lines the spirit of the city! Each deconstructed tram line makes City soul poor and poor.

January 27th, 2011, 04:02 PM	#32
Tramwayman Trams the Best!!! Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Tbilisi Posts: 207 Likes (Received): 1	http://www.interpressnews.ge/en/just...is-office.html Stephan Cohen Worked as Engineer at ‘Sistra’ Paris Office 15:23 27-01-2011 Stephan Cohen worked as an engineer at ‘Sistra’ Paris office, Paris office of the Company told InterPressNews by phone . They say that they were informed about his murder this morning and they can not tell anything until the return of the director of the administration. ‘Sistra’ is a public railway-transportation company headquartered in Paris. It has projects in Africa, Asia, Europe. Agreement with ‘Sistra’ was signed by Tbilisi Mayor Gigi Ugulava and head of Georgian Railway Irakli Ezugbaia on 18 December 2010. ‘Sistra’ carries out project of regulation of transport routes in Tbilisi. Stephan Cohen was found murdered in his room at the hotel Courtyard Marriott. __________________ Tram lines the spirit of the city! Each deconstructed tram line makes City soul poor and poor.

January 29th, 2011, 12:32 PM	#34
Tramwayman Trams the Best!!! Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Tbilisi Posts: 207 Likes (Received): 1	Middle part had no wheels. it's made in Tbilis they made 4 this kind of trams in tram trolley master depot. There is no trolleybus network in Tbilis nor in other cities of Georgia all were shut down. __________________ Tram lines the spirit of the city! Each deconstructed tram line makes City soul poor and poor.

January 29th, 2011, 12:37 PM	#35
Gag Halfrunt Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 733 Likes (Received): 0	Hybrid 87 was asking why the Škoda 14Tr in Tblisi did not have middle doors. That's what he meant by "Why did they take them [the doors] out?".

January 29th, 2011, 01:10 PM	#36
Tramwayman Trams the Best!!! Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Tbilisi Posts: 207 Likes (Received): 1	In Tbilis ther were Skoda 14T's which had not middle doors itself it 50 troleybusses were made especially for Tbilisi and Kiev. BUt also in Tbilisi the middle door were not using ultimately and they were taken out on some trolleys. __________________ Tram lines the spirit of the city! Each deconstructed tram line makes City soul poor and poor.

January 29th, 2011, 05:08 PM	#38
Tramwayman Trams the Best!!! Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Tbilisi Posts: 207 Likes (Received): 1	50 trolleybuses of Skoda 14Tr were made with two doors for Tbilisi and Kiev. but Tbilisi's trolleys Skoda 14Tr with 3 doors then were remade as 2 doors because lines were small shut down and passengers were very small amount and 3 door was not needed. __________________ Tram lines the spirit of the city! Each deconstructed tram line makes City soul poor and poor.

March 6th, 2011, 08:11 PM	#39
Tramwayman Trams the Best!!! Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Tbilisi Posts: 207 Likes (Received): 1	Tbilisi tram system in 1929 __________________ Tram lines the spirit of the city! Each deconstructed tram line makes City soul poor and poor.

March 7th, 2011, 08:17 AM	#40
Transira Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 59 Likes (Received): 1	Hello, Does exist project to reintroduce (modern) trolleybuses in Tbilisi? __________________ Trolleybus means ecology, economy, ergonomy.

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