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Old May 27th, 2011, 11:36 PM   #41
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cool i stumbled across this video yesterday and watched the whole thing (slower version than the remix posted) - some of the tunnels are so dark though are they still like that?

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Old May 28th, 2011, 06:40 PM   #42
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Beautiful tram and the city.
More pictures and videos please!
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Old May 28th, 2011, 07:20 PM   #43
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Looks great! And Bergen itself looks impossibly clean..
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Old May 28th, 2011, 07:28 PM   #44
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Is fare evasion a problem in Bergen?
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Old May 28th, 2011, 07:44 PM   #45
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I like this line. It's a nice cross between a standard European Tram and actual Light Rail.(Smaller, single car tram style trains but a bit longer than most trams, and the line itself has some dedicated Right-of-way elements including tunnels.) The rails fit-in to the surrounding city and streets beautifully.

I have to say though that you Europeans can't make up your minds on what to call tram or light rail. You call Houston's MetroRail and other LRT systems around the US trams, yet you call this Light Rail when this actually looks and behaves like a tram more than anything.
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Old May 29th, 2011, 01:01 AM   #46
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I have to say though that you Europeans can't make up your minds on what to call tram or light rail. You call Houston's MetroRail and other LRT systems around the US trams, yet you call this Light Rail when this actually looks and behaves like a tram more than anything.
There isn't strict line to separate both concepts. In Europe, much emphasis is put on who control the signs and switches. Are there automatic signs (regardless of the train being ATC or not)? Are there a centralized control and dispatch of vehicles and subsequent monitoring? If yes to both, you can likely call it a light rail.

If not, if train operators have to look out for traffic, if they command switches and signs from their cabins, if vehicles are not controlled on blocks/signal but visually by operators, then it is a tram.
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Old May 29th, 2011, 08:16 AM   #47
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I like this line. It's a nice cross between a standard European Tram and actual Light Rail.(Smaller, single car tram style trains but a bit longer than most trams, and the line itself has some dedicated Right-of-way elements including tunnels.) The rails fit-in to the surrounding city and streets beautifully.

I have to say though that you Europeans can't make up your minds on what to call tram or light rail. You call Houston's MetroRail and other LRT systems around the US trams, yet you call this Light Rail when this actually looks and behaves like a tram more than anything.
LOL , the US has the same problem. Here in the Northeast we call them Trolleys , Trams , and Light Rail depending on the City and Streetcars.
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Old May 29th, 2011, 03:15 PM   #48
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They're calling it a light-rail to distance it from the poorly maintained tram-system in Oslo for public opinion reasons.
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Old May 30th, 2011, 02:22 AM   #49
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Maybe is time then to close the Oslo trams and have them substituted by (underground) subway?
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Old October 15th, 2011, 12:21 AM   #50
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Is fare evasion a problem in Bergen?
As far as I'm aware, it used to be quite a big problem.. but nowdays they have quite many guards patrolling the light rail and buses, so I don't think it's a big problem anymore. I have been caught a few times myself, and one time I even had to pay the 750kr fine.. and I haven't been a free passanger ever since that day.

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Maybe is time then to close the Oslo trams and have them substituted by (underground) subway?
Oslo already has an underground subway system. The tram system only exists to compliment said subway, and the tram/subway combination is far superior to having just one of the options. I believe most cities with underground systems also have light rail or trams, as well.

Anyways, this thread is about the light rail system in Bergen.. so here are some more pictures

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Old October 15th, 2011, 10:12 AM   #51
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Old October 17th, 2011, 05:50 PM   #52
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What a spectacular picture.

So far for pedestrians and lightrail vehicles (tramtrains) not mixing together. Is this picture in any way altered, apart from the colouring?
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Old October 17th, 2011, 10:44 PM   #53
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Old October 31st, 2011, 12:52 AM   #54
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What a spectacular picture.

So far for pedestrians and lightrail vehicles (tramtrains) not mixing together. Is this picture in any way altered, apart from the colouring?
Nope.. that seems to have been an unusually busy day, though.

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Old July 15th, 2013, 01:11 AM   #55
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Bybanen phase 2

I apologies for the small pictures - that's the size the page I found it on have published them in for some reason. I guess it beats rune inscriptions which they also could have gone for when they decided to be so backwards.

It opened for service Friday the 21th. of June.













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Old August 3rd, 2013, 08:37 PM   #56
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Render of stage 3.

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Borrowed from this tread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...#post105844890
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Old August 8th, 2013, 03:49 PM   #57
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Contracts have now been signed for the construction of two phases of stage 3. It's expected to be completed in November 2015.

http://www.bygg.no/2013/08/110530.0
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Old August 16th, 2013, 02:26 PM   #58
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Construction start of first part of stage 3 was today.




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Old August 22nd, 2013, 07:33 PM   #59
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Retro: Here is how the tram line plans was presented in 1994. http://www.nrk.no/hordaland/slik-sa-...994-1.11196642

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If not, if train operators have to look out for traffic, if they command switches and signs from their cabins, if vehicles are not controlled on blocks/signal but visually by operators, then it is a tram.
Thatīs exactly what itīs about. In Germany itīs allowed to run with 70 km/h without signals and Poznans fast-tram does this too. But this is limited to a certain kind of track-layout, length of train and the intervals.

As many US light-rail system make use of an own right of way, sometimes converted heavy-rail, I would like to know if they have signals. You canīt have high speed and high capacity without signals.

Of cause not the whole network of a lighht-rail has to have signal-blocks. But the more it has the nearer it comes to a conventional metro-system.

Bergen light-rail operators put this question about their tunnels. Normally tunnels have to be equipped with signals. In german law (BOStrab) a tunnel can be kept free from signalling if the end of the tunnel is always visible (good enough) for the driver. I think thatīs what they have done in Bergen to avoid signals, as they leaned on this german regulation. It saves a lot of money.

Well, I donīt have been in Bergen and it seems to be a big success. So regardless what you name it, the difference between a fast and modern tram and light-rail can be a very little one.

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