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Old June 20th, 2013, 09:49 PM   #261
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Indeed, but when the development of this design-change will be completed and approved by the authorities it will make the A320 even more competitive.
Airbus will be able to offer this version to other customers, too.
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Old June 20th, 2013, 10:18 PM   #262
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According to Michael O'Leary, CEO of Ryanait, the reason they chosed B737 is that it offers 189 seats and A320 only 180. So if A320 could get 192, we can see a lot of LLC operators switching from B737 to A320 and even Ryanair.
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if that's his rationale, why not invest instead in the A321 that could carry more passengers than the A320 to begin with? i mean, it can be used for higher-density routes rather than relying on the B738 (and can operate with a similar range too)... But it's good to operate a single aircraft type in bulk.
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Old June 21st, 2013, 07:54 AM   #264
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According to Michael O'Leary, CEO of Ryanait, the reason they chosed B737 is that it offers 189 seats and A320 only 180. So if A320 could get 192, we can see a lot of LLC operators switching from B737 to A320 and even Ryanair.
So that's what he told the press? Airbus mentioned that they weren't interested in dealing with Ryanair because they didn't want to sell him at wayyy below list prices only to be used as a bargaining tool for more Boeing 737s.
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Old June 21st, 2013, 08:18 AM   #265
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But at the end of the day Airbus would be very happy to add any airline to it's customer base. If they can make a deal with Ryanair they will do it, even with all the past comments about not doing it.

It's not like Airbus isn't giving bulk discounts to all the other airlines that place huge orders, if Ryanair really wants the A320 there will be a deal.

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According to Michael O'Leary, CEO of Ryanait, the reason they chosed B737 is that it offers 189 seats and A320 only 180. So if A320 could get 192, we can see a lot of LLC operators switching from B737 to A320 and even Ryanair.
Except that Boeing will do the exact same thing, it was actually rumored that Boeing would do exactly the same the other week. Boeing denied it, and Airbus said it was impossible but in the end of the day we will see it happening on both planes.

Which will even out again any difference in fuel burn between the 2 planes that will be the result of this change, which is currently exactly the same per seat in a full configuration.
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Old June 21st, 2013, 09:46 AM   #266
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Some more A320s I've found lately...

Aer Lingus A320-200, retro livery (reg. EI-DVM)

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Air Malta A320-200 (reg. 9H-AEK)

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Air Malta A320-200, "Valletta: European Capital of Culture, 2018" (reg. 9H-AEO)

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Austrian Airlines A320-200, retro aircraft (reg. OE-LBP)

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Avion Express A320-200, "Cosmo" (reg. LY-COM)

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Jetstar A320-200 with new sharklets, "Celebrating 100 aircraft and over 100 million passengers" (reg. VH-VFN)

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Nesma Airlines A320-200, "Fatima" (reg. SU-NMB)

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Shenzhen Airlines A320-200, "The 26th Summer Universiade Shenzhen" (reg. B-6749)

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Virgin America A320-200 with new sharklets, "Jersey Girl" (reg. N361VA)

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Vueling A320-200 with new sharklets (reg. EC-LVO)

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Is there any detail of future expected deliveries of this planes by year? It seems that airbus is pushing deliveries further and further away, this gives a chance to Boeing, and even Bombardier. Seemingly is very hard to upgrade the production capacity, but the actual (at list 3 years in a roll) global ratio of airbus with 600 deliveries every year and more than 900 orders is not sustainable.
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Old July 13th, 2013, 06:48 AM   #268
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A319 American Airlines N8001N
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A319 American Airlines N9002U
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Old July 13th, 2013, 10:13 AM   #269
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The AA livery looks great on the A319, and even better on the 773´s and 738´s.

Delivery to DFW soon
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Old July 13th, 2013, 01:23 PM   #270
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garuda indonesia citilink A320 200


http://jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=7552704

mandala airlines A320 200


http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=7536528

airasia indonesia A320 200


http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=7539511


batavia air A320 200


http://jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=7492347
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Old July 14th, 2013, 12:53 AM   #271
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This French article claims that the easyJet order comes with 1 special demand.
http://www.lepoint.fr/economie/la-cl...1683861_28.php

easyJet wants Airbus to certify the A320 for 192 seats instead of the current maximum of 180. This means that the design of A320 has to be adjusted and it's not the extra seats that are the problem here. That can be done by reshuffling the cabin lay-out and using slim seats. The limiting factor are the evacuation times, that can be changed by widening the doors or adding an extra small emergency door. But this has to be certified again to make it possible. That takes time and money, turning this into a small but extra risk for Airbus.
The easyJet order has been firmed and Airbus is not speaking about an 192-class A320 seater.

http://www.airbus.com/presscentre/pr...0ceo-aircraft/
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is it possible a320 family (including a318 a319 a321) superpass in sold units than 737ng family?
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Old July 14th, 2013, 02:39 PM   #273
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How do you mean, Airbus already sold more current generation A320s then Boeing has sold 737 NGs.

orders up to June 2013
ceo orders: 7,404 (1988)
737 NG orders: 6,358 (1998)


When it comes to the total orders for all generations it's still the other way around.

Total orders all families until June 2013
A320: 9,649
737: 11,088


Will the A320 ever surpass the 737? Probably only Airbus will come with a new variant of the A320 after the neo and Boeing goes for a completely new design after the MAX. The 737 MAX will get enough orders over the next couple of years to stay ahead for years to come, even though the A320 will come pretty close.
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Old July 14th, 2013, 03:04 PM   #274
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I'm not a real fan of the 737 due to its looks, but the 737 Max do have an appeal with its long fuselage.

Now the 320 have always been among my favourite planes, at first when they added the sharklets wing tip I was trying to see the benefits rather than the looks, but as usual after looking at it for many times I started to like again.

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What's the reason of an A318 with sharklets? No one wants an A318 at all.
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Momo....very thank you for your answer...
what companies have the largest fleet of a320 (including a318, a319, a321)?
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What's the reason of an A318 with sharklets? No one wants an A318 at all.
Now that A318 with sharklets is a brilliant addition, making it a common feature now among all the A320 new gen aircraft. I mean, the addition is more than design; it's function is to allow better lift while saving valuable gallons of fuel per flight, saving thousands of dollars per refuel while allowing better flying experiences. Yes, the A318 may not have been as popular as its siblings, especially the A319, but with its small fuselage size, it can operate to smaller airports while not compromising passenger loads... I wonder, though, if with that improvement, the A318 can fly even further than an A319 could? I mean, the A319 has an LR version and those with IAG V2500 engines can fly like 4,200nm, a little further than the A318's 3,600nm range.
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it can give airlines with A318 want to retrofit the sharklets devices. and the content must be tested
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Momo....very thank you for your answer...
what companies have the largest fleet of a320 (including a318, a319, a321)?
US Airways has the largest fleet, they currently operate 248 of them. They are followed by easyJet: 212, China Southern: 198 and China Eastern: 188.
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