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Old May 3rd, 2014, 12:25 AM   #701
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Do you think Beijing will finish the year ahead Atlanta, bubbalo?
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Actually until recently i was pretty much sure PEK will never surpass ATL as world's busiest. One, because new Beijing airport should open in 2018, second because of constrains at PEK and no spare capacity.
But current situation says otherwise. ATL is in negative growth for past 13 months! except december 2013, where the growth was +5,4%. PEK has moderate growth throughout the year and most probably will end up between 85 to 86 mil. passengers this year.

With current growth (ATL -3,7% for 2 months of 2014, PEK 3% for 3 months of 2014) ATL reach 91 mil. and PEK 86,3 mil. passengers in 2014. But it is very early to say, anything can change.
If the current situation will continue next year PEK will be the busiest one, but no one can predict future, especially in aviation business.

The difference between ATL and PEK on 12-month rolling base dropped for the first time in history under 10 mil. passengers! from mar 2013 to feb 2014 the difference was 9,4 mil. passengers.
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The first part of the year is always the busiest within Chinese airports due to the Chinese New Year holiday.

I think Beijing may surpass briefly Atlanta somewhere in 2016 or 2017, but eventually Beijing will be surpassed by Dubai.
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GRU (APR/13 - MAR/14)

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The first part of the year is always the busiest within Chinese airports due to the Chinese New Year holiday.

I think Beijing may surpass briefly Atlanta somewhere in 2016 or 2017, but eventually Beijing will be surpassed by Dubai.
Beijing, Dubai and maybe Guangzhou are likely to top 100 million passengers within 2020, as long as they have actual capacity for it.
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Old May 6th, 2014, 02:17 PM   #706
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GRU (APR/13 - MAR/14)

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São Paulo/Guarulhos is heading to break the 40 million barrier. In fact, it seems it will reach 41 million passengers by the end of the year.
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In January 2014 we saw the highest % growth since 2010! (of course apart from irregularities in february 2012 (one extra day) with growth 7,27%, and april 2011 (due to volcano eruption in europe in april 2010) with growth 10,97%.
Seems like the start of 2014 was excellent!

EDIT: back in december 2013, North american airports witnessed growth 6,5%! Again apart from february 2012 (one extra day) with growth 7,28%, last december growth was highest since 2007!


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Old May 9th, 2014, 08:25 AM   #709
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India's director general of civil aviation (DGCA) has established new rules for local operators ordering real-time tracking of passenger and cargo aircraft from departure to arrival.

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Terminal 3 of Guarulhos/São Paulo Airport opened today, able to handle 12 million passengers.

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It's amazing how fast it was built. As people usually say down here: "it doesn't look like Brazil". The airport concessions to private companies two years ago was definitely a success. Now it's five airports: GRU, VCP (São Paulo), BSB (Brasília), GIG (Rio de Janeiro) and CNF (Belo Horizonte).

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Conheça o T3 do Aeroporto de Guarulhos (SP) Via Panrotas



Pavilhão de feira às vésperas do início de um evento é sempre a mesma coisa: operários dando os últimos retoques na estrutura, expositores preenchendo os estandes, funcionários caprichando na limpeza... O Terminal 3 do Aeroporto de Guarulhos, às 9h desta manhã, e a cerca de 20 horas de receber seu primeiro voo, estava mais ou menos assim – com muita gente limpando o chão daquele pó branco típico de um lugar recém-saído de obras, funcionários das lojas sendo treinados e preenchendo os estabelecimentos com produtos e, no ar, aquele clima de expectativa em relação a algo bom que está por vir.

Após apenas um ano e nove meses, o T3 saiu do nada, do zero, para uma estrutura imponente, com cinco níveis, toda espelhada e que se tornará a porta de entrada de dois terços dos estrangeiros que chegarão ao Brasil nos próximos anos. Os primeiros vão desembarcar às 4h50 de amanhã (11), vindos de Frankfurt no B747-8 da Lufthansa. Pouco depois chegam voos da Tap e da Swiss – o primeiro embarque ocorrerá por volta das 17h do domingo, em um voo da Tap. Neste primeiro momento, estas três serão as companhias a operarem no terminal. Até a Copa virão mais oito e, em setembro, já serão 21 aéreas.

No saguão de entrada, com pé direito bem elevado, estão algumas lojas e 108 balcões de check-in. Após o embarque estão concentrados os principais estabelecimentos comerciais, alguns estreando no Brasil, caso da norte-americana Red Lobster. Na espera para o voo nos 26 portões, nada daquele aperto e desconforto característicos dos terminais 1 e 2: tudo é bem espaçoso e as poltronas, todas com tomada, são bem almofadadas. Quem embarca no terminal 2 tem trânsito livre para o 3.

DESEMBARQUE
Para quem chega de viagem, a promessa é que o calvário entre o processo de imigração e a retirada das bagagens seja substituído por uma experiência positiva. A área de imigração, com 52 cabines, tem 1,7 mil metros quadrados e a de restituição de bagagens, com sete enormes carrosséis (de última geração e não os ultrapassados usados no T1 e T2), possui nada menos do que 12 mil metros quadrados.

Quando totalmente em operação, o T3 trabalhará com 12 milhões de passageiros por ano – até a Copa, 25% desta capacidade estará sendo operada. O investimento do consórcio formado pelas empresas Invepar e ACSA até o momento é de R$ 2,9 bilhões – até 2032 serão R$ 4,5 bilhões, que incluirão as reformas de modernização dos terminais 1 e 2.

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RAIO X – T3 GRU AIRPORT

. Início da operação: 11 de maio

. Área construída: 192 mil metros quadrados

. Níveis: 5 (subsolo, desembarque, mezanino – transição entre embarque e desembarque -, embarque e salas Vip

. Capacidade inicial: 12 milhões de passageiros anos

. Pátios de aeronaves: 34 posições

. Pontes de embarque: 20

. Posições remotas: 14

. Portões de embarque: 26, sendo 6 para operação remota

. Companhias aéreas: 21 (fase de transição vai até setembro)

. Lojas: 108

. Equipamentos: 108 balcões de check-in, 26 totens de autoatendimento, 104 balcões de controle de passaporte, 7 carrosséis de restituição de bagagens, 21 escadas rolantes, 27 esteiras rolantes, 53 elevadores, 400 painéis de voo, 352 câmeras, 3,3 mil caixas de som e 720 placas de sinalização.


























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Old May 11th, 2014, 05:18 PM   #711
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And its first flight just arrived:

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Maybe this is the right topic for posting this video:

Low flight of a WizzAir plane along the Danube in Budapest, Hungary, on the 2014 flight show - cab view. Best in HD!

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Old May 16th, 2014, 02:55 PM   #713
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The aviation industry has taken a tentative step toward electric power with the successful maiden flight of the Airbus E-Fan. The manufacturer known for the massive A380 jetliner began testing this small experimental aircraft last week, with the ultimate aim of lowering the huge carbon dioxide emissions from commercial flights.

The E-FAN is powered by 120 lithium-polymer batteries, and can fly at speeds up to 136mph. Measuring just 19 feet from nose to tail, the compact aircraft show that Airbus probably isn't ready for commercial zero emissions flight just yet, but it does highlight the potential benefits.

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Old May 20th, 2014, 05:01 AM   #715
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International Passengers Jan/Apr 2014

Code:
São Paulo-Cumbica ----------- 3,212,000 (Jan/Mar)
Rio de Janeiro-Galeão ------- 1,307,486
Porto Alegre ------------------ 197,525
Brasília ---------------------- 170,934
Belo Horizonte-Confins -------- 124,204
Salvador ---------------------- 108,030
Florianópolis ------------------ 95,678
Recife ------------------------- 92,998
Manaus ------------------------- 72,634
Fortaleza ---------------------- 64,000
Curitiba ----------------------- 45,765
Natal -------------------------- 28,929
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Airbus and KLM Royal Dutch Airlines have completed a commercial flight of an A330-200 using sustainable jet fuel. The ten-hour flight from Schiphol airport in Amsterdam to the Dutch Caribbean island of Aruba is the longest ever performed by an Airbus airliner, claims the company.


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Old May 22nd, 2014, 03:42 AM   #717
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WASHINGTON (AP) — Passengers love the idea, but airlines hate it. The government wants to require that travelers be told upfront about basic services that aren't included in the price of a ticket and how much extra they'll cost.

The Transportation Department proposed Wednesday that passengers be provided detailed information on fees for a first checked bag, a second checked bag, advance seat assignments and carry-on bags.

The rules would apply whether passengers bought tickets on the phone, in person or online — and not just from airline websites. Airlines that want their tickets to remain available through travel agents and online ticketing services would have to provide them information on fees for basic services, too, something most have been reluctant to do.

The idea is to prevent consumers from being lured by low advertised airfares, only to be surprised later by high fees for services once considered part of the ticket price.

Airlines currently are required to disclose only bag fees, and even then they don't have to provide an exact price. Some provide a wide range of possible fees in complex charts.

"A customer can buy a ticket for $200 and find themselves with a hidden $100 baggage fee, and they might have turned down a $250 ticket with no baggage fee but the customer was never able to make that choice," Transportation Secretary Anthony Foxx said in an interview.

But adopting the changes would be the wrong choice, said a trade association for the airline industry. The "proposal overreaches and limits how free markets work," Airlines for America said in a statement. And it predicted "negative consequences."

Under the proposal, fees would have to be specific to the advertised airfare. Any frequent-flier privileges would also have to be factored into the price if the airfare is advertised on an airline website and the passenger supplies identifying information. The proposal would prohibit "unfair and deceptive" practices by airfare search tools, such as ranking flights by some airlines ahead of others without disclosing that bias to consumers.

The rule doesn't cover fees for early boarding, curbside check-in and other services regarded as optional.

The government also wants to expand its definition of a "ticket agent" so that consumer protection rules also apply to online flight search tools like Kayak and Google's Flight Search, even though they don't actually sell tickets.

Many consumers are unable to determine the true cost of a ticket because fees are often hard to find or decipher, the government says.

"The more you arm the consumer with information, the better the consumer's position to make choices," said Foxx.

The public has 90 days to comment on the proposal. Foxx said he hopes the rule will become final within the next year.

The proposal is the latest of several clashes between the Obama administration and airlines over passenger rights. For instance, the industry is backing a bill recently passed by a House committee that would effectively nullify a rule adopted in 2011 that requires airlines to include taxes and government fees in advertised airfares so that consumers can see the full price of a ticket.

The new government effort is partly a response to changes in industry business strategy since 2008, when carriers started unbundling their services, beginning with checked bags.

More recently, some airlines have begun offering consumers not only a stripped-down "base" airfare, but also a choice of several packages with some of the once-free services added back into the cost of a ticket but at higher prices. With packages and a la carte fees multiplying, comparison shopping for airfares is becoming more difficult, consumer advocates say.

Charlie Leocha, who lobbies for passenger rights on behalf of the Consumer Travel Alliance, welcomed the proposal for changes. "We are getting most of what consumers have been requesting for more than five years," he said.

But the airlines trade group protested: "The government does not prescriptively tell other industries — hotels, computer makers, rental car companies — how they should sell their products, and we believe consumers are best served when the companies they do business with are able to tailor products and services to their customers,"

The Transportation Department also proposes expanding the pool of airlines required to report performance measures such as late flights, lost bags and passengers bounced from flights due to overbooking. Currently, only airlines that account for at least 1 percent of the market must report those measures, which the department posts online in its Air Travel Consumer Report. The proposed regulations would include carriers that account for little as 0.5 percent of the market. That would bring in discount carriers like Spirit and Allegiant airlines and many regional air carriers.

Major carriers would also have to include the performance of their regional airline partners when reporting their own. That means the on-time and lost bag records for major carriers may take a nose dive, since regional carriers tend to perform more poorly in those areas.

The proposed rules are the Obama administration's third wave for airline passengers. The effort began with a ban on tarmac strandings in which passengers can be cooped up in planes for hours, sometimes in miserable conditions. Facing the prospect of fines of as much as $27,500 per passenger, airlines have nearly eliminated such incidents by canceling flights in advance of severe weather.

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I'm always surprised to see Toronto Pearson out of the top 30 in PAX. I think the high cost of air travel in Canada really knocks the sails out of this industry here. If the feds stopped viewing our airports as cash cows we'd likely see passenger numbers far higher. Pearson really should be up around 50 million PAX (or higher) considering the population it serves, its extensive connections, and the level of wealth in the region.
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I'm always surprised to see Toronto Pearson out of the top 30 in PAX. I think the high cost of air travel in Canada really knocks the sails out of this industry here. If the feds stopped viewing our airports as cash cows we'd likely see passenger numbers far higher. Pearson really should be up around 50 million PAX (or higher) considering the population it serves, its extensive connections, and the level of wealth in the region.
No surprises there. 34 million seems about right. Canada is a huge country with a tiny population and cut off from the world. Sydney, for example, does 36 million. Toronto does have America next to it, unlike Australia, so you could see some more tourism there. That'd probably push it up to 40 million max. 50 million just doesn't make sense. You won't see a rise in tourism because of insane border policies of America. Having America is also a negative, because if given a choice between Canada nad America, most European tourists will choose America.
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No surprises there. 34 million seems about right. Canada is a huge country with a tiny population and cut off from the world. Sydney, for example, does 36 million. Toronto does have America next to it, unlike Australia, so you could see some more tourism there. That'd probably push it up to 40 million max. 50 million just doesn't make sense. You won't see a rise in tourism because of insane border policies of America. Having America is also a negative, because if given a choice between Canada nad America, most European tourists will choose America.
Your numbers are way off. Toronto Pearson (36.0 million PAX in 2013) serves a population from 50% higher to double that of Sydney (38.3 million PAX in 2013) yet has slightly lower PAX. Pearson is the principal airport for 7.2 million people in the GTHA and 12.8 million in southern Ontario. That's far higher than the corresponding population in Sydney (4.8 million people) and New South Wales (7.4 million people).

Schiphol (52.6 million PAX) in Amsterdam serves 16.8 million Dutch citizens, but also has to compete with a well built out HSR system. Pearson's captive market is only 25% smaller but has no rail competition to speak of. Pearson's PAX should be similar to what Schiphol posts and at least 50% higher than what Sydney posts.

Isolated? Southern Ontario lies in the most densely populated region of north America. Considering the proximity of each nation's population and how integrated their economies are, if Canada is cut off from the world so is the United States. Southern Ontario is as integrated into the world economy as any place in the Western world. $1.2 billion in goods crosses the Ontario border every day. Detroit to the west, Montreal to the east, and NYC directly to the south. That's in the sweet spot although I realize that doesn't mesh with your world view.

Regarding tourists to America, Toronto fares very well according to the data. Pearson (21.6 million) receives the 2nd highest number of international passengers in America after JFK (26.5 million). Miami is 3rd (20.2 million). Your perceptions don't square with reality.

Top 10 Destination Cities in America by International Overnight Visitors in 2013
01. New York 11.5 million
02. Los Angeles 4.8 million
03. Miami 3.9 million
04. Toronto 3.4 million
05. Vancouver 3.4 million
06. Mexico City 3.1 million
07. San Francisco 3.0 million
08. Buenos Aires 2.6 million
09. Sao Paulo 2.4 million
10. Washington 2.3 million

Chicago and Boston didn't even make the top 10. Toronto Pearson PAX is strangely low. One would expect 50-60 million PAX. I'm hardly the only one who's noticed.


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