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Old May 11th, 2011, 09:37 PM   #81
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Old May 11th, 2011, 09:39 PM   #82
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Old May 11th, 2011, 10:45 PM   #83
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In Tallinn you get to park free-of-charge for 15 minutes if you mark the parking time.

This might seem a bit OT but if there is a sign #852 (when used for parking, for example), which are the days it implies to? In Estonia it's Mon-Fri but I was surprised to find out that in Italy it's Mon-Sat, for example.
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Old May 11th, 2011, 10:51 PM   #84
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I have no idea what signs #852 and 856 would mean... On German maps they indicate mines.
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Old May 11th, 2011, 11:03 PM   #85
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I have no idea what signs #852 and 856 would mean... On German maps they indicate mines.
They mean "working days", as Rebasepoiss stated, in Italy it's Mon-Sat.
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Old May 12th, 2011, 05:50 AM   #86
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I have no idea what signs #852 and 856 would mean... On German maps they indicate mines.
It's not used in Dutch roadsigns, but maybe you recognize it from the Dutch railroad timetables that used to use the same symbol as footnote. The symbol would refer to working days, but did still include Saturday. It's opposite symbol is "†", which means "only on Sunday and national holidays".

They abolished the use of these symbols just a few years ago and now only use the alphabet for footnotes. Unfortunately imho, since it's very easy when the same symbol has the same meaning in every timetable. Now you have to look up every footnote, since it's meaning is different on every page.
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Old May 12th, 2011, 10:20 AM   #87
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On Norwegian traffic signs they use colours and parentheses to indicate what the times are. Working days are black letters, Saturdays in parentheses and Sundays and public holidays in red letters.

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Old May 12th, 2011, 10:30 AM   #88
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Our sign is a complete disaster



I doubt that anybody can read it while driving...
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Old May 12th, 2011, 10:50 AM   #89
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140 on motorways? Cool.
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Old May 12th, 2011, 11:00 AM   #90
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Yep, since january.
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Old May 12th, 2011, 05:10 PM   #91
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I have no idea what signs #852 and 856 would mean... On German maps they indicate mines.
In Hungary it is obvious they indicate working days :-)
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Old May 12th, 2011, 10:57 PM   #92
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140 on motorways? Cool.
In Portugal that is the de facto speed limit, as the speed limit is 120, but people don't get fined until going 20km/h above the limit, and possibly 30km/h outside urban areas, so it might even be 150km/h.

Surprisngly, people don't really abuse this in urban areas, and on normal city streets stick to 50km/h.
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Old May 12th, 2011, 11:25 PM   #93
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Our sign is a complete disaster
The Hungarian border sign, in the past, was an even more complex n x m matrix They simplified it some years ago.

The Polish 140km/h on motorways is a signal in the right direction. It is not about the 10km/h difference, but about leaving the stiff 130km/h general motorway limit -which was the highest available in Europe, apart from Germany- towards a feasible higher one. Hopefully it is a start of a movement of higher general motorway limits (which aren't an obstacle for signing lower limits on stretches where indicated).
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Old May 13th, 2011, 09:05 AM   #94
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In Portugal that is the de facto speed limit, as the speed limit is 120, but people don't get fined until going 20km/h above the limit, and possibly 30km/h outside urban areas, so it might even be 150km/h.

Surprisngly, people don't really abuse this in urban areas, and on normal city streets stick to 50km/h.
In poland you can also drive 10km/h faster than limit and you wan't get fined (in the meaning of law). In practice on motorways polish police chase people speedeing 170-180km/h and more.
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Old May 13th, 2011, 10:04 AM   #95
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In Italy tolerance is 10%, so 130 becomes 143...
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Old May 13th, 2011, 10:05 AM   #96
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Tolerances are 10 km/h in Romania an 10% in Hungary.
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Old May 13th, 2011, 03:21 PM   #97
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In Italy tolerance is 10%, so 130 becomes 143...
it would be nice, but in Italy tolerance is 5% if speed is> 100 km/h and 5 km/h if speed is< 100 km/h
130 becomes only 136.
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Old May 13th, 2011, 03:48 PM   #98
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136.5 km/h
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Old May 13th, 2011, 09:32 PM   #99
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Wow, Portugal seems to have more tolerance than eveywhere else
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Old May 14th, 2011, 12:43 AM   #100
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Wow, Portugal seems to have more tolerance than eveywhere else
20km/h seems to be quite high tolerance :]
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